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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 10:56 GMT
#1
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Don't let her nurse outfit deceive you, this girl is fucking crazy. Her name is Shiina Ringo (pronounced "Sheena" and sometimes spelled in English as "Shena").

She's a Japanese singer/songwriter who can go from sweet to absolutely wailing in one verse. She is not your typical music industry singer, her voice might revolt you at first. But there is magic in there.

Time to take the training wheels off. Did I mention she's insane?

She doesn't always sing on-key and her voice might put you off at first...but she is fucking brilliant. She can sound all nasally and still have her throat open somehow. More than that, I love her mind.

La Salle de Bain Lyrics (what the fuck?)
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in a cafe just a little down the stairs
from a city shop selling cameras and things
i smelled your lighter oil mixed with coffee and cream
an odor still lingered from the lines you gave me
you said it did not you? "just do it kill me"

today is a day that in particular
i seem to be smiling and laughing quite a lot
i just had a dream and in it you had died
and i had no choice then but to love you
do not think to abandon or ever leave me

so wash me cut me i am underwater
my lungs and breathing are quite affected
please watch me closely and do check to see
i dry out completely i dry through and through
come shine me tear me i am underwater
relying completely on zero gravity
and when i do melt down entirely immediately
bon appetit

it was you who was dying there right in front of me
and i could not stop the tears i could not hold them in
all of the little things of this little world
are so very dear to me it hurts to think of them
oh do not make me have those kind of dreams again

a scent so sweet that it got me dirty
the troops to protect me were out on patrol
please watch me closely and do check to see
i dry out completely i dry through and through
a lie so big that it got me dirty
as soon as i said it a wound opened up
and when i do melt down entirely immediately
bon appetit

you said it did not you? "just do it kill me"

so wash me cut me i am underwater
my lungs and breathing are quite affected
please watch me closely and do check to see
i dry out completely i dry through and through
come shine me tear me i am underwater
relying completely on zero gravity
and when i do melt down entirely immediately
bon appetit

i am not afraid of a little boredom
why did the two of them ever chance to meet?

Holy shit I need to find the rest of this

After her solo career, she formed the band Tokyo Jihen. While I think her early solo stuff is best, gems just keep popping out.

Pleasure mixed with pain

Shiina Pics
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Yeah, didn't see that comin did ya?

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“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 11:17:18
May 06 2010 11:15 GMT
#2
All Japanese people are kind of weird/insane.

That and she doesn't really sing, she just kind of wavers within the range of a few notes - and does in fact sound very nasally.

Thanks for sharing though.
CJ Entusman #24
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#3
On May 06 2010 20:15 Qwertify wrote:
All Japanese people are kind of weird/insane.

individually, yes. but overall less so than americans...at least they are who they are

That and she doesn't really sing

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“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Brainsurgeon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden359 Posts
May 06 2010 11:54 GMT
#4
Not my cup of tea, but I guess some people like it.
Say no to drugs. Say yes to hugs!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 06 2010 11:55 GMT
#5
On May 06 2010 20:15 Qwertify wrote:
All Japanese people are kind of weird/insane.

Side effect of the nukes.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
May 06 2010 11:57 GMT
#6
her voice doesn't sound weird at all in the first youtube video.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
May 06 2010 12:01 GMT
#7
ok I've listened to two of her songs and she doesn't sound weird at all I think you just categorize all Japanese singing as weird.

Try these two and re-evaluate what beautifully "flawed" voices are please:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Milk-Eyed_Mender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Aeroplane_Over_the_Sea
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 06 2010 12:05 GMT
#8
Not to be rude or anything but... why is her mole thingy in a different place in each picture?
Her voice is... interesting to me :O
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
May 06 2010 12:08 GMT
#9
Nah, off-pitch way too much for my taste. Stuff like this can be cool though, but to me it needs to be executed perfectly in order to work. Also, I really like the background in the second song. Deliciously psychedelic, but not too much =)
Fosh
Profile Joined January 2009
Sweden117 Posts
May 06 2010 12:16 GMT
#10
There's always someone who enjoys something, but this is terrible imo.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 12:20 GMT
#11
I know I shouldn't be but I can't help it..I am judging TL so hard right now.

so hard
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
May 06 2010 12:29 GMT
#12
On May 06 2010 20:15 Qwertify wrote:
All Japanese people are kind of weird/insane.


meh.. I'd say the same proportion of weird Japanese people and the proportion of weird American people are about the same. Just as how some people online say that America is just filled with obese mcdonalds eating people, many people incorrectly believe Japanese people are just naturally fucked up or something.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 12:35:08
May 06 2010 12:34 GMT
#13
[edit: damn didnt get my post up in time] ^my last post: jk. im only judging one of you.

On May 06 2010 21:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
ok I've listened to two of her songs and she doesn't sound weird at all I think you just categorize all Japanese singing as weird.

:o
Try these two and re-evaluate what beautifully "flawed" voices are please:

get off your musical high horse -.-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Milk-Eyed_Mender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Aeroplane_Over_the_Sea

I really like that first one and I'm indifferent to the second. I don't see how their voices are "flawed" at all.

On May 06 2010 21:08 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Nah, off-pitch way too much for my taste. Stuff like this can be cool though, but to me it needs to be executed perfectly in order to work. Also, I really like the background in the second song. Deliciously psychedelic, but not too much =)

yeah, it took me a bit before I really took to it. Usually I concentrate on the singer and everything else kind of gets zoned out but with her music her voice and all the other instrumentation is just to create one awesome effect
On May 06 2010 21:16 Fosh wrote:
There's always someone who enjoys something, but this is terrible imo.

haha, this post is my thoughts exactly the first time I heard it
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 12:42 GMT
#14
On May 06 2010 21:29 madnessman wrote:
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On May 06 2010 20:15 Qwertify wrote:
All Japanese people are kind of weird/insane.


meh.. I'd say the same proportion of weird Japanese people and the proportion of weird American people are about the same. Just as how some people online say that America is just filled with obese mcdonalds eating people, many people incorrectly believe Japanese people are just naturally fucked up or something.

In Japan there is word called "makoto." It denotes the path a person's inner self truly wants to take and it’s valued over truth & justice. It's an idea formed from the deconstructionist tendencies of Zen Buddhism. The cultural subjectivity it creates accounts for some pretty unconceivable things happening in Japanese society by foreign standards (like Issei Sagawa). The idea of makoto is probably the single most unique feature of Japan and what makes its society so different, especially since they value the collective over the individual. It's a contradictory facet of their society which generates a lot of conflicting forces.

In America, there is an entire corporate culture bombarding us with the way we "should" be. It's really, really hard to see it when you're in the middle of it. Really fucking hard. We also slap labels on everything and everyone, quantify and qualify according to these labels. Americans really have no concept of makoto and its only something we come to after a long personal journey, so pretty much when we look at Japan we think "thats so weird" when actually its just a bunch of individuals being who they are.

Personally, its why I find Japan so fascinating. The more people I meet and talk to the more I realize I have no clue who I really am.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
May 06 2010 14:14 GMT
#15
she doesnt sound that wierd in the 1st youtube video, but is it me or does she sounds kinda 'off' in the live video?
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
May 06 2010 14:32 GMT
#16
Loving it, thanks for sharing!
Yhamm is the god of predictions
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 14:44 GMT
#17
On May 06 2010 23:14 Vain wrote:
she doesnt sound that wierd in the 1st youtube video, but is it me or does she sounds kinda 'off' in the live video?

yeah, that was the first video of hers I ever saw and it blew me away enough for me to really listen to her other stuff. her live isnt as accurate as her studio recorded but theres just a whole different type of energy

dunno guess its whatever you like.

On May 06 2010 23:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Loving it, thanks for sharing!

:D awesome! you are quite welcome
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
May 06 2010 15:11 GMT
#18
On May 06 2010 21:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
ok I've listened to two of her songs and she doesn't sound weird at all I think you just categorize all Japanese singing as weird.

Try these two and re-evaluate what beautifully "flawed" voices are please:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Milk-Eyed_Mender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Aeroplane_Over_the_Sea


Shiina Ringo seems to me a lot like Kate Bush and Bjork: histrionic female vocalists with a lot of range and power who are unto themselves works of art, i.e. that the art they represent goes beyond their music, encapsulating promo photography, stage direction in concerts, etc. That said I can't really listen to Shiina Ringo (if Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana is any indication) because my favourite elements of Bjork and Kate Bush involve picking out lyrical swabs of strength and mettle or delicacy; I can't do that with Shiina Ringo.

i.e. it's somewhat disingenuous to say that what Shiina Ringo does is "all Japanese singing." She brings something really unique to the table.

Joanna Newsom's elfish crackling voice has softened considerably since MEM due in part to her own physical inability to sustain the charade, but unlike Ringo, Bush, and Bjork, she has no range and isn't nearly as involved in her own aesthetic.

However, Jeff Mangum's nasal wheal stops being challenging or "beautifully 'flawed'" after high school. Why would you even bring this up in this topic?
Mondays
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
May 06 2010 16:06 GMT
#19
She's hot! :D Good enough for me.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
May 06 2010 16:11 GMT
#20
Honestly her music and singing style aren't really that out there. She doesn't really even sing off key; some of her pitches are inflected a bit flat for musical purposes, but for the most part she's in tune. Perhaps what is throwing people is her style and timbre, some unconventional harmonies (by pop standards, they aren't even dissonant), and the mere fact that the OP biased everyone to hear her as singing off key (no offense).

There's some fairly interesting stuff here, she's certainly got a unique style. But this doesn't really strike me as anything that pushes the boundaries much or challenges the listener (nothing wrong with that of course). Hmm... now I kind of want to make a blog about good music that really does challenge the listener...
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 06 2010 17:20 GMT
#21
Yeah, if you're judging off of these songs along then yeah it isn't out there or off-pitch.

Challenging the listener?
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5015 Posts
May 06 2010 17:23 GMT
#22
Azn Bjork, thats what I was thinking listening to the first song.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
May 06 2010 17:36 GMT
#23
Just listen to "la salle de bain", and it was absolutely wonderful! Thanks for sharing dude, I gotta check this out. So lovely to hear pop that dares experimenting!
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
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