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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 00:10:26
April 29 2010 00:10 GMT
#21
Personally I would get the cheaper brands like squire / epiphone, good starters seem to be stratacastors by squire but there are many good guitars 300-600$, get one in this price range and if you decide you like it and want to play alot more get a gibson guitar, 1000+$

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condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
April 29 2010 00:11 GMT
#22
You probably won't find anything better for this price. Super good instrument too.

esp m401
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 29 2010 00:12 GMT
#23
I wouldn't spend your 2k at first on higher end equipment yet. Whether you play on a 2k guitar or a 20 dollar guitar you're going to sound bad at first either way. Also i know friends who got like 2k martin acoustics and didn't even bring it with them to college and its just collecting dust in their room. I might just use the 2k on getting a cheap guitar+amp and getting a teacher.

I understand how you're feeling right now. There's like hundreds of different brands and hundreds of different opinions everywhere and how they seem to contradict each other at times. Its overwhelming. You start to notice some patterns though.
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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 00:13:05
April 29 2010 00:12 GMT
#24
There is no need to start on an electric guitar. Play what you want.

You can get a guitar for your beginniner-intermediate needs for 300-450 dollars. I reccomend a strat knock off. But really, get something that you think looks cool, and feels like its going to your hands. Check to see if any notes buzz, and the 'action' isnt too high.

There is absolutely no need for a high end instrument to start with.
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
April 29 2010 00:18 GMT
#25
oh yeah if your going to buy from a large store like guitar center or sam ash, you should really bring a friend or someone who's knowledgeable in case you get a douchey sales rep
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Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
April 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#26
My advice.

By a cheap 100 dollar guitar and a small watt amp, learn to play guitar.

If you're still interested a few months/ a year down the road, by then you will know

-If you want to play with other people (Upgrade to a half stack or something)
-Learned enough songs/listen to enough music to figure out what type of sound you want ( You can now buy a higher end guitar because you better understand what sound/tone you truly want)
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 29 2010 00:34 GMT
#27
I was going to say a Fender Squier for about 150$ but since you're willing to pay so much, I don't know. I have an Ibanez 350dx but it's a metal guitar.

Once you get your guitar, make sure not to get sucked into tabs! And, make sure you're always alternate picking so you don't get used to only down-strokes.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
April 29 2010 00:45 GMT
#28
Just out of curiosity, why electric?
I personally much prefer playing my acoustic and I think they're better for learning.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
April 29 2010 00:46 GMT
#29
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 29 2010 00:57 GMT
#30
On April 29 2010 09:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why electric?
I personally much prefer playing my acoustic and I think they're better for learning.

Maybe he likes the distorted tones?

You should play whichever one you like better. If you don't like the music you are playing, then you aren't going to practice.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 29 2010 01:00 GMT
#31
drone, i'd check out something like:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Valvetronix-VT15-15W-1x8-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=483551

has some built-in dsp effects you can play around with and a line out for headphones if you don't want people to hear you plonking away at the beginning. i'd also recommend the epiphone valve junior, which is just a straight up low wattage amp but is a really killer sounding little thing for really cheap. fun to mod too.

and yes, get a tuner!
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 29 2010 01:01 GMT
#32
On April 29 2010 09:46 dronebabo wrote:
thanks for the advice everyone

so the majority seem to think i should get a cheaper guitar to start out with and this makes sense to me

i'm still not sure on the amp/effects processor part. is it ok for me to get just an amp or just an effects processor? i've heard that it's a good idea to get an effects processor and use headphones until i get better. i also think i need to buy a tuner? do effects processors have one built in?


Well, amps are only necessary if you are preforming. Multieffects processors are complicated to work with if you want to make your own tones, but they usually also have preset tones. I would recommend the VOX Tonelab LE as a great effects processor for the type of music you want to play. Later, when you get an amp, you can plug in your Effects processor to get the same effects for performance.

Some effects processors have tuners built in, but you can get a good tuner for 30$, so its not a big deal.

Most important is to get a good teacher. Learning through youtube videos and online lessons might sound fine, but its no match for having a good teacher sit across from you and point out your mistakes. Try to find a reputable place that gives lessons, since there are plenty of shitty guitar teachers out there.

GLHF and rock on!
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 29 2010 01:04 GMT
#33
oh and one more thing, this may sound obvious: amplifiers are LOUD. REALLY LOUD. if you live in an apartment, forget about being able to crank 'em. some of the 50-100w marshalls will melt your teeth if you crank them. amplifiers are designed to play louder than a drum kit
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 02 2010 00:15 GMT
#34
were you inspired by k-on?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 00:23 GMT
#35
I'm looking to buy a Squier for my first guitar and was wondering if anyone has any tips. Also what are some cheap/good amp or headphone models? Thanks for help
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 01:15:06
May 02 2010 01:13 GMT
#36
The All Purpose Guide


1. Go to a large store like Guitar Center or Sam Ash.

2. Spend some time just picking up the guitars there and playing them. Try different brands, plug them in, play - who cares if you aren't good. Try expensive ones. Try cheap ones. Try acoustics and electrics too. All brands and models feel different. Find the one or two that feel most comfortable to grip, to hold, and to play. Then find the cheapest one within your budget.

3. Write down the name of this brand/model and read some reviews online.

4. Go to your local, family run music shop and talk to them. Buy the guitar you are looking for at a good price and support local business. Local shops are a GREAT resource for repair as well.

***NOTE1 : Do not overspend on your first guitar. If you drop 2 g's on a gibson, and then 1 year later you don't like playing anymore, you will regret spending that money - you will not make all of it back when you try to re-sell the axe.

***NOTE 2: There is nothing wrong with buying used guitars. You can get a nicer guitar for a great price this way!
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 02 2010 01:17 GMT
#37
On May 02 2010 09:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Squier for my first guitar and was wondering if anyone has any tips. Also what are some cheap/good amp or headphone models? Thanks for help


good cheap headphones - check out radioshack. I had a pair of panasonics that i really liked. Generally expect to pay around 30 bucks for the kind. you can also get the headphone jack adapters at radioshack.

amp models - go shop around. The Roland Cube is an awesome cheap starter amp. i think they still make them. play different brands of amps though and see what sound you like best; all amps sound different. Brands I recommend are Roland, Fender, Vox, and Marshall. Don't buy a Line6.
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
May 02 2010 02:50 GMT
#38
Yo buying a really expensive first guitar is overrated. Get the best amp you can get and a somewhat decent guitar with your money. You'll get GAS and end up buying more guitars in the future but not many people get AAS and buy tons of amps... Used gear is great for beginners.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
May 03 2010 05:05 GMT
#39
I love ESP they are fantastic axes
but i also have a very neoclassical shred / melodic speed metal playing style
The kind of music you listen to.. you would probably wanna go with either a fender or a gibson as said earlier.. DO NOT Spend a shitload of money on your FIRST guitar. I cant fucking believe people are suggesting this is a good idea.
you need to learn how to play guitar and learn what sounds/style you like and what sounds /style you dont. Then when you are comfortable playing go spend some time trying out different guitars and shop around.

you can buy a cheap fender or epiphone for about 200-300 that will be just fine for learning.
also line 6spiders 15-25 watt entry level amps are good solid amps for like 100-150$ you get good features and decent tone compared to any other amp brand at that price range. HOWEVER i would never recommend anyone spend anything over 200$ on a line6 because there relative performance greatly deteriorates at higher price points.


and also make sure to remember that your amp is only as good as your guitar and your guitar is only as good as your amp.

make sure you can lay down about the same amount of cash on an amp as you spent on the guitar cause both are equally important
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
May 03 2010 05:25 GMT
#40
I recommend you get a guitar $500 or below, just so you don't end up spending a buttload of money only to lose interest later. For post-rock/pop, I'd recommend a Fender Stratocaster (Made in Mexico). On that note, you should always be looking on sites like craigslist to find better deals for your guitars, provided that you have a friend who can help you out in testing them and playing on them to make sure that they're functional.

For amplifiers, I recommend a Roland Cube (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-Cube-15X-Guitar-Amp?sku=487030&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=37162677). It has pretty good sound for a starter amp, unlike many others. You may also want to get a Fender Frontman 25R (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-25R-Frontman-Series-II-Guitar-Combo?sku=480669#used). I personally started out with this amplifier around six years ago and you'll be able to get some mild overdrive and average clean tones out of it, which should fit your pop/post-rock style purposes well.

For post-rock you'll definitely need an effects processor, however I would just get started with learning the basics of the instrument before you begin to delve into effects and more complicated things.
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