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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 16 2010 01:24 GMT
#1
Now before I start, let's get something straight. I've been super excited about SC2 for the last two years. I'm not one of those forum vets who haven't played SC much since 2006 and is feeling nostalgic and thinks anyone with a join date after 2007 is a noob. A bit of an exaggeration there, but the point is, I was a very active SC player before beta and planned to be so for SC2. I was trying to become a top SC/SC2 player and hopefully get my name out there.

Anyways... SC2 has really disappointed me so far, and not in the ways that you're thinking. I'm just feeling so trapped and so... bored. Playing SC2 just really isn't fun for me. For a couple weeks I was thinking... "god, I gotta get myself in gear if I wanna get good here." My first goal was getting some sort of cash, anything - sponsors, tournaments, etc - from SC2. I was super hyped before beta even started, but now I find myself making excuses about why I'm not playing. Today it sort of hit me, the reason SC2 killed the SC world for me, at least temporarily.

The community feeling is GONE.

For me, that was a huge realization, for some reason. I was like "oh, this game doesn't suck... I just lost a big reason I played SC1." The truth is, I probably spent more time chatting on SC than actually playing. If you were ever on my ICCup friends list, you'll know that I was spamming away 24/7 into /f m and the op mG. chat. The problem with SC2 for me now is that there's no one to talk to. Three things led to that...

- obviously, no chat channels. This is the big one. Every time I'm not in a game, I'm staring into a void, with the "START GAME" button glowing brightly... it's like everyone got sucked out of bnet.
- I don't know anyone! Even on ICCup, there were dozens of guys that I talked to a bit every time I played them - I played a bunch of ladder games, so I saw familiar faces from ladder and clan wars. At this point, with no lobby and really no time to chat, my opponents are just faceless nerds.
- SC2 killed the SC1 community as well. None of my friends play SC1, and even if they did, I really wouldn't be able to get myself to play knowing that SC2 beta is out.

Yes, this is just kinda ranting rofl random bullshit whining. Obviously there ARE social tools in bnet, however limited, and obviously there will be more later in beta or at release at the latest. But for now... my passion is gone.

T_T

****
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 16 2010 01:27 GMT
#2
I get the same feeling...

Luckily, I have stream chat to make me feel better O_O; (or worse, I dunno)

I STILL LOVE YOU OK?!~!~
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 16 2010 01:27 GMT
#3
On April 16 2010 10:27 KawaiiRice wrote:
I get the same feeling...

Luckily, I have stream chat to make me feel better O_O; (or worse, I dunno)

I STILL LOVE YOU OK?!~!~


This is my fucking point. I literally have not talked to you since beta came out. T____T
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 16 2010 01:29 GMT
#4
Wanna share your key then? I have a different kind of sc2 depression. I was super excited when the "Hell, It's about time" SC2 trailer came out but I gradually lost interest as Blizzard kept on delaying release. I guess I started to see SC2 as a myth so i wasn't even interested when SC2 beta came out and I didn't get a key. My passion has been rekindled after watching the TL invitational games on YT.

The SC1 community is dead yet. It's just temporarily weakened.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 16 2010 01:31 GMT
#5
On April 16 2010 10:27 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 10:27 KawaiiRice wrote:
I get the same feeling...

Luckily, I have stream chat to make me feel better O_O; (or worse, I dunno)

I STILL LOVE YOU OK?!~!~


This is my fucking point. I literally have not talked to you since beta came out. T____T


You forgot the time in op mG. where I went on for like 20 minutes calling you a beta bitch? O_O;
@KawaiiRiceLighT
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
April 16 2010 01:32 GMT
#6
StarCraft 2 has yet to develop a community of players willing to do something other than just mass game and stuff.

It'll come, Pokebunny. ^.^
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 16 2010 01:34 GMT
#7
Channels in sc2 beta would literally solve all these problems.

the community feeling is quite bad right now on sc2. I'm sure they will include channels at the latest in the final release... they have to, right?!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 01:40:27
April 16 2010 01:34 GMT
#8
On April 16 2010 10:29 madnessman wrote:
Wanna share your key then? I have a different kind of sc2 depression. I was super excited when the "Hell, It's about time" SC2 trailer came out but I gradually lost interest as Blizzard kept on delaying release. I guess I started to see SC2 as a myth so i wasn't even interested when SC2 beta came out and I didn't get a key. My passion has been rekindled after watching the TL invitational games on YT.

The SC1 community is dead yet. It's just temporarily weakened.

Already letting two guys fool around with it a bit... I don't really wanna let another person get on it heh.

On April 16 2010 10:34 LuckyFool wrote:
Channels in sc2 beta would literally solve all these problems.

the community feeling is quite bad right now on sc2. I'm sure they will include channels at the latest in the final release... they have to, right?!


Yeah, of course. To be honest, a lot of it is because most of mG is on europe (disco and ziph gave out like 3 keys each to mG members and made them play on euro accts). ;_;

On April 16 2010 10:31 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 10:27 Pokebunny wrote:
On April 16 2010 10:27 KawaiiRice wrote:
I get the same feeling...

Luckily, I have stream chat to make me feel better O_O; (or worse, I dunno)

I STILL LOVE YOU OK?!~!~


This is my fucking point. I literally have not talked to you since beta came out. T____T


You forgot the time in op mG. where I went on for like 20 minutes calling you a beta bitch? O_O;


doesn't count lol
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 01:43:45
April 16 2010 01:41 GMT
#9
/agree. I got on bw the other day and played some 2v2 with speake, sprite, and vestige and it was super fun like old times. Sc1 is just more fun to me to play also but ive still been mass gaming like hell in sc2.

P.S get a euro account already.
Better than Pokebunny
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 01:46:10
April 16 2010 01:44 GMT
#10
On April 16 2010 10:41 Foreplay wrote:
/agree. I got on bw the other day and played some 2v2 with speake, sprite, and vestige and it was super fun like old times. Sc1 is just more fun to me to play also but ive still been mass gaming like hell in sc2.


I can't even get myself to mass game in sc2 or sc1 anymore. The problem for me is that beta killed both games :\
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#11
Try playing some 2v2s they're fun if you play them with your friend :D
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#12
I'll be making a comeback in broodwar when wcg qualifiers get announced.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
April 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#13
Also the fact that there's only a couple thousand people playing. When this game comes out there's going to be wayyy more people and probably more of your friends to get on the voice chat while you play.

I'm suffering to a similar extent, except I don't need the community to help me have fun, although I would very much like to have that. I literally have no friends who play SC competitively, and I have spent the entirety of the last 3 years with this game. No, I'm not a loser who sits in his room and bangs on his keyboard for 3 hours, but when I play for that 40 minutes to an hour I play a day, I'm hammering away against some guy I don't know who's either too awkwardly friendly or savagely bm.

I'm not very good, and I don't plan on playing in anything over local tournies, but I've always been able to enjoy the game for what it is because I haven't had any other choice. There are chat functions and they're going to roll out more so I wouldn't worry too much, especially when it's not a closed beta situation anymore.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
April 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#14
get on bw and play me right now. im sitting lonely in op mG.
Better than Pokebunny
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
April 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#15
I am only playing 2v2 because 1v1 seems so quiet. Get on irc, grab a partner, and have fun!
ModeratorGodfather
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 16 2010 01:48 GMT
#16
--- Nuked ---
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 16 2010 01:53 GMT
#17
Idk if its disappointment or amazement. Its actually both. The game is so amazing but its also a disappointment. I dont know why i feel like that :l Now then get your BW self back so theres +1 person on TL that still plays BW.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 01:54:18
April 16 2010 01:54 GMT
#18
I know what you mean. No seriously, I do because that's what your PM said lol.
On April 16 2010 10:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
I am only playing 2v2 because 1v1 seems so quiet. Get on irc, grab a partner, and have fun!

Pretty much what I've been trying to do as of late.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 16 2010 01:55 GMT
#19
Thats why I'm sharing my account in EtheralDeath's thread, I've been playing iccup for the past few days, so much more fun..but I know one day BW will die and fade away, so I'll go back to sc2 pretty soon .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
April 16 2010 01:56 GMT
#20
I'll be your friend
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 16 2010 02:02 GMT
#21
Blizzard really needs to get chat channels into the game fast. How they ever thought removing them was a good idea really confuses me.
neVern
Profile Joined January 2010
United States115 Posts
April 16 2010 02:02 GMT
#22
I played 4 games of sc2 then went back to bw rofl

I didn't really like it either. Although I didn't really play a real game with any pace to it since my opponents were really bad and I don't understand the game.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
April 16 2010 02:08 GMT
#23
Exactly why i quit playing this fucking game, I became so fucking ronery jesus. None to yell at about imbalance.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 16 2010 02:11 GMT
#24
ziph bad =/= imba
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 16 2010 02:14 GMT
#25
Yea, the game is so quiet. 2v2 is hella fun thought since I have an irl friend that I play with.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 02:17:20
April 16 2010 02:15 GMT
#26
I five star'd this one. Yeah I mentioned this to a friend of who'm i knew way before beta release date. He luckily got into the beta, shared his account. After 2-3 weeks of playing it, i felt this way, so instead of blogging cus i suck at blogging, I opened up to him about it, I TOTALLY agree they have taken away from the community feeling. SC1= I HOST PUBLIC play/obs No one that i know joins, we become a family for the next few hours, some come and go, those who stay, become part of this temp family, sc2 really has lost this. I 5star'd this one.

+ Show Spoiler [my personal rant] +
He removed me from msn, and faecebook, some fuckin friend lololol.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
April 16 2010 02:15 GMT
#27
i really wish there could be a feature to watch replays with friends... that would help with the community
Long live BroodWar!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 02:22:27
April 16 2010 02:20 GMT
#28
On April 16 2010 10:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 10:41 Foreplay wrote:
/agree. I got on bw the other day and played some 2v2 with speake, sprite, and vestige and it was super fun like old times. Sc1 is just more fun to me to play also but ive still been mass gaming like hell in sc2.


I can't even get myself to mass game in sc2 or sc1 anymore. The problem for me is that beta killed both games :\


After a few games of BW after 3 weeks of beta I was totally sucked in. I love the game even more now.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
April 16 2010 02:21 GMT
#29
On April 16 2010 10:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 10:41 Foreplay wrote:
/agree. I got on bw the other day and played some 2v2 with speake, sprite, and vestige and it was super fun like old times. Sc1 is just more fun to me to play also but ive still been mass gaming like hell in sc2.


I can't even get myself to mass game in sc2 or sc1 anymore. The problem for me is that beta killed both games :\


lol
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 16 2010 02:21 GMT
#30
I am sure Blizzard did this on purpose to filter out the players who are not ready to actually playtest the game.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
April 16 2010 02:25 GMT
#31
I blame the lack of channels
Oh no
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
April 16 2010 02:29 GMT
#32
sorry but people hating on sc2 makes me secretly happy. honestly i don't want to see it succeed because it killed something beautiful, sc1, and it should be punished for that. i realize that doesnt make any sense but that's how i feel =(.
funky squaredance funky squaredance funky squaredance
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 02:31:28
April 16 2010 02:29 GMT
#33
On April 16 2010 11:21 lolaloc wrote:
I am sure Blizzard did this on purpose to filter out the players who are not ready to actually playtest the game.

hmm no they just waiting, otherwise there would have been invite only to top KNOWN players around the world, wether it be WoW, WC3, SCBW, other game titles. ETC. Also they wanted to see if this would pick up or not, you see if they gave us all those chat channels, chat in reps before hand, they would never be able to try these current chat methods out. PPL would freak. this way if they do it this way around they can see will the fans like the new idea, or do they want the old school back in? thats my imo
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
April 16 2010 02:48 GMT
#34
hi everyone let's be friends
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 02:51:32
April 16 2010 02:51 GMT
#35
On April 16 2010 11:25 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
I blame the lack of channels


Battle.Net 0.75
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
April 16 2010 03:07 GMT
#36
just get ziph's euro acc, he's never on it anyway, like ever.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
April 16 2010 03:08 GMT
#37
Atleast you have me to carry you on Hon Pokebunny, and also beat you in sc2. =).
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 16 2010 03:10 GMT
#38
once we have our UMSs out, TL will be kings of the world
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
April 16 2010 03:17 GMT
#39
On April 16 2010 10:56 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'll be your friend

Take that offer!

But honestly without TL i would be selling my beta key because the ingame community aspect is gone, luckily i am on spring break so i can devote my time to Writing guides and articles to make myself more well known so i have more people to play against.
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
April 16 2010 03:18 GMT
#40
hi Pokebunny,im NirArbel, do you miss the love/hate relationship we had on iccup channels?
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
April 16 2010 03:53 GMT
#41
Blizzard have been shooting themselves in the foot without channels, they are such a good avenue for people to congregate and discuss balance and strategy, and further improve their play...how this is not desirable for a beta is absolutely beyond me.
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
April 16 2010 03:56 GMT
#42
yep i agree. i think that not allowing channels was the right move in the first month..because it forced people to actually play. but now... they gotta allow channels so that ppl can talk about whats wrong in the game.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
April 16 2010 04:02 GMT
#43
On April 16 2010 10:27 KawaiiRice wrote:
I get the same feeling...

Luckily, I have stream chat to make me feel better O_O; (or worse, I dunno)

I STILL LOVE YOU OK?!~!~

Yay! A troll needs a place to nest.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 16 2010 04:04 GMT
#44
add me yo (my msn)
Official Entusman #21
SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
April 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#45
you should get on BW and we will get A+ 2v2 again ez
mG.SpriteLove
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
April 16 2010 05:26 GMT
#46
I don't even play Starcraft at all anymore since about a month after playing sc2 :S Just lost all motivation to start all over again and not enough motivation to go back to BW.

I do enjoy the sc2 streams though.
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
April 16 2010 05:28 GMT
#47
On April 16 2010 10:29 madnessman wrote:
The SC1 community is dead yet. It's just temporarily weakened.


How many SC1 streams do you see? 0

How many SC2 streams do you see? Usually more than 5.

I sort of miss SC1 streams, but all anyone streams now is SCII
TL+ Member
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
April 16 2010 06:18 GMT
#48
poke you moron add me im Elias.dancecommand. its just me and you to continue the mG legacy~~~
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
April 16 2010 06:19 GMT
#49
On April 16 2010 14:16 SpriteLove wrote:
you should get on BW and we will get A+ 2v2 again ez

dude wtf sprite miss u bb~~
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 16 2010 16:01 GMT
#50
On April 16 2010 15:18 DanceCommander wrote:
poke you moron add me im Elias.dancecommand. its just me and you to continue the mG legacy~~~


It isn't really that I don't know people... I certainly have my connections, but I just feel so alone.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
April 16 2010 17:43 GMT
#51
While sc2 brings much more promise to us foreigners in terms of getting involved in esports, it just isn't feeling that rewarding for some reason. I mean, it makes me want to go back to BW half the time, and I've even played some games with friends in the past couple weeks. It was fun screwing up half the hotkeys after a month of playing a different game.

But you're right, I think I've had more negative interactions with people on sc2 so far than positive ones (and this just compounds itself when it happens, and I start being snide to other people as well). Maybe if I were playing on Europe where everyone is classy...

Even playing 2v2 with my friends is painful. Sometimes you just lose, and there's nothing you could have done about it. That's never a good feeling after the game, and you start wondering why you're playing 2v2 in the first place. =P
Oh, my eSports
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
April 16 2010 18:45 GMT
#52
What I really wish they'd do, and I'd push this if I worked there, is scrap the useless score screen which is completely meaningless in multiplayer and replace it with a chatroom for all the players that were in the game (and stuck around to the end). That way you could chat with the guy that just beat your, or that you just beat, and there would be a chance to make friends that way.

I recently got beat by another guy and we started chatting because I was slightly bm about it, but by the time the conversation started going I was already in the midst of another game, so we couldn't talk anymore.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
April 16 2010 19:51 GMT
#53
On April 17 2010 01:01 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 15:18 DanceCommander wrote:
poke you moron add me im Elias.dancecommand. its just me and you to continue the mG legacy~~~


It isn't really that I don't know people... I certainly have my connections, but I just feel so alone.

i dont care if you do or dont know people, add me.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 16 2010 20:34 GMT
#54
On April 17 2010 04:51 DanceCommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 01:01 Pokebunny wrote:
On April 16 2010 15:18 DanceCommander wrote:
poke you moron add me im Elias.dancecommand. its just me and you to continue the mG legacy~~~


It isn't really that I don't know people... I certainly have my connections, but I just feel so alone.

i dont care if you do or dont know people, add me.


Fine, but I never play...
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