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So I was playing this guy PvT on iccup. I had him completely owned, then he did gas-hack... repeatedly at which point I told him to leave since I was going to report him anyway. After that I sort of slipped into low gear... raping his expo attempts getting to 200/200 and sort of just waiting for him to do something. I got bored and decided to recall into his base... and what do I see? He has like 20 BC's??!?!?!?! LOL. He then proceeds to rape me.
Clearly this is not a viable strat, as this is impossible to do without getting scouted... unless you're playing against an opponent like me who was in "oh well, good macro practice" mode.
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=33765
Anyway... it's a pretty funny game... and sort of goes to show how much I really suck! <3
Edit: There should be no apostrophe in BCs, could mod fix?
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you would have easily won if you massed absolutely any unit that attacks air instead of wasting all your gas on high templar :/
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By gas hack, do you mean SCV stacking?
I've had losses like this, where I just didn't bother to scan the Protoss main, and just when he's on the ropes he walks out with a set of carriers and pwns me. I guess I had less of an excuse though, since you might not have been able to get an obs in, whereas I just needed to click the right place...
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i doubt he gas hacked... especially if hes using anti hack for iccup. i didnt watch replay but ive had this happen. high templars are your best bet, you just gotta watch out if he has a sv w/ emp. to avoid emp maybe have ht in shuttle just mass expand b/c bc are slow and give him no map control. also you should be taking out any of his exp b/c he massed bc which like i said gives him no control of map. AND mostly you shouldve scouted him better especially if you where just waiting there for him to push out. always keep an eye on what your opponent is doing even if you have to suicide an observer or two. gl hf
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Rofl this is where scouts actually become useful; mass scouts rape BCs pretty hard. You can also transition to gayriers after, it's win/win :D
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actually massing scouts would be hard considering you already have upgraded goons and a shit ton of gateways why not go goon./ht mix (it worked for me) i mean youd have to invest in a bunch of stargates and not to mention scout are what 350m and 150-200 gas somethign rediculous
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Dark archons with mind control and feedback imho.
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That late in the game you should have enough arbitrers to stasis the lot of BCs. Some storms + dragoons and you're golden.
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pretty much every toss unit counters them, it's sweet. sept zealots.
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Ya, storm/goon rapes BCs hard. I would also suggest getting DAs for mind control because it just feels great to do. And what is this "gas hack" you're talking about?
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How do you not have arbiters at this point of the game?
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On March 27 2010 03:19 TheAntZ wrote: How do you not have arbiters at this point of the game?
Lol, he did have arbiters. I've never heard of this gas hack, you sure he was hacking?
On March 27 2010 02:44 beenizzle wrote: actually massing scouts would be hard considering you already have upgraded goons and a shit ton of gateways why not go goon./ht mix (it worked for me) i mean youd have to invest in a bunch of stargates and not to mention scout are what 350m and 150-200 gas somethign rediculous
Scouts are 275/125, you're thinking of carriers. And though goon/templar rapes BC on open ground, if the guy has like 20 BC, he can use them on cliffs and over water, snipe templars with yamato, and generally be a bitch.
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On March 27 2010 02:47 minus_human wrote: Dark archons with mind control and feedback imho.
This
or just Stasis half of them and kill the other half
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On March 27 2010 02:56 citi.zen wrote: That late in the game you should have enough arbitrers to stasis the lot of BCs. Some storms + dragoons and you're golden. this, and maybe DA for feedback/MC if terran is just camping above a ramp or something and the map is low on resources.
scout/carrier will fuck you over as you will be behind in upgrades, you will be wanting to conserve your resources, and it will take a while to get a good sized army with proper upgrades.
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so he had 6 o clock the whole game and dont think he cheating
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On March 27 2010 04:43 Hypnosis wrote: oh newbs! so so funny
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On March 27 2010 02:27 beenizzle wrote:i doubt he gas hacked... especially if hes using anti hack for iccup. i didnt watch replay but ive had this happen. high templars are your best bet, you just gotta watch out if he has a sv w/ emp. to avoid emp maybe have ht in shuttle just mass expand b/c bc are slow and give him no map control. also you should be taking out any of his exp b/c he massed bc which like i said gives him no control of map. AND mostly you shouldve scouted him better especially if you where just waiting there for him to push out. always keep an eye on what your opponent is doing even if you have to suicide an observer or two. gl hf
Watch. He gas hacked at 9:50. :p Repeatedly. By Gas hack, of course, I mean he used scv moving stack/attack. It's clearly banned in the ladder rules. But yeah... by that point, I was like. "Hmm... maybe I should mass scouts." but then I forgot.
On March 27 2010 02:20 Denotate wrote: By gas hack, do you mean SCV stacking? . That is exactly what I mean.
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On March 27 2010 06:07 love1another wrote: Watch. He gas hacked at 9:50. :p Repeatedly. By Gas hack, of course, I mean he used scv moving stack/attack. It's clearly banned in the ladder rules. But yeah... by that point, I was like. "Hmm... maybe I should mass scouts." but then I forgot.
Are you sure you don't have 'gas walk' (which can slide you through buildings) confused with 'mineral walk' (which is just moving workers to resources)?
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