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United States24813 Posts
This is another of my occasional vent blogs where I point out what I think is wrong with the world. This is not about the meat substitute, in case you were wondering.
We all hate spam. One of the problems with the ease of use of e-mail is that many immoral organizations and Nigerian princes send unsolicited messages to everyone they can in the hopes that 0.001% of them will click on something or provide some type of feedback. E-mail providers combat this by creating filters which weed out most of the spam from the main inbox.
Of course, no spam filter is perfect. Sometimes spam ends up in your main inbox. If it's occasional then it's not a big deal. The opposite problem is that legitimate e-mails end up in the spam box, which bothers me a lot more. Even so, I understand that there is no perfect system. In fact, Yahoo and many other providers allow you to label every e-mail as spam or not spam. Now, I assume that this factors in to how future spam filter processes will work. Great... over time the spam filters become excellent. That is, unless not everybody uses the service properly.
It seems like many of the legitimate e-mails I get end up in my spam box because other people didn't want them and labeled them as spam. If it's a service that you can easily unsubscribe from then it's not spam! Rather than take the 10 seconds to unsubscribe they just label things as spam.
- That annoying e-mail I got from the National Eagle Scout Association about some stupid book they are putting together? It's not spam... I am an Eagle Scout who is signed up for their newsletters. If I don't want the messages any longer, I just UNSUBSCRIBE.
- That update from the PBA about an upcoming event I can't participate in and can't watch? Too bad, I gave them my e-mail at some point. If I don't want updates I can easily UNSUBSCRIBE.
- That automated response when I submitted an important application? For fuck's sake of course I want it to go to my main mailbox. Better yet, I get a response from the coordinator of the program asking me if I'm still interested and it goes in my spam box.
- Etc, this is just some of the cases from today.
Of course, going through your spam box isn't that big of a deal... that is except you get like 30 messages a day so it's still kind of annoying. It wouldn't bother me so much if most of the false negatives (or whatever they are) weren't caused by idiots who also use my service labeling the wrong things as spam.
If you get an e-mail that requests you send them 5,000 dollars so they can set up your account to transfer you 15 million and want to label it as spam... then by all means do.
 
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
there are just so many things wrong in this world : (
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How does one, become the Eagle Scout
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On March 08 2010 12:33 Seele wrote:
How does one, become the Eagle Scout
i am intrigued by this as well
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+ Show Spoiler +The best way to avoid spam is to just not give your personal email out to people you don't trust (such as your university, your employer, your random forums) and have a separate email for work and forums that you don't care about keeping clean. I literally get zero spam on my personal email.
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Canada8036 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:33 Seele wrote:
How does one, become the Eagle Scout
In short, be awesome. Is this a brag thread in disguise? 
Anyway, I can't remember the last time I've run into this problem. Gmail's pretty good about filtering out spam, and I have yet to see a newsletter I want or any other relevant email get accidentally moved into the spam folder.
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United States24813 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:33 Seele wrote:
How does one, become the Eagle Scout
Er, do you want to know the requirements for becoming an Eagle Scout? If so here's a brief explanation:
1) Join the Boy Scouts and complete the requirements for for the first few ranks (tenderfoot, second class, first class) which are mostly to attend some camping trips and recite information about how to camp.
2) Complete the requirements for the ranks Star and Life which require you to hold a leadership position in the troop, get lots of merit badges (usually at summer camp), etc.
3) Complete the requirements specifically for Eagle. In addition to more leadership roles and merit badges, you need to organize and run a service project where you lead your fellow scouts on a one or several day endeavor to create something new for your community or help to maintain public property. For example, repainting public picnic pavilions, performing maintenance on the trails in a local camping area, etc.
On March 08 2010 12:40 Chef wrote:Crumbs! + Show Spoiler +The best way to avoid spam is to just not give your personal email out to people you don't trust (such as your university, your employer, your random forums) and have a separate email for work and forums that you don't care about keeping clean. I literally get zero spam on my personal email.
Yeah... I've had this particular e-mail for over 10 years though so it's accumulated some crap :p
On March 08 2010 12:44 Spazer wrote:In short, be awesome. Is this a brag thread in disguise? Anyway, I can't remember the last time I've run into this problem. Gmail's pretty good about filtering out spam, and I have yet to see a newsletter I want or any other relevant email get accidentally moved into the spam folder.
Haha I guess it seems that way but I did honestly just use the ones in my mailbox from a few minutes ago. My Gmail is definitely better but it's also much newer... I purposefully don't give it out that often. I even have an account that's called yaddayaddaspam@hotmail.com for spam-magnet type stuff :p
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Over ten years ago? That's bordering on the introduction of email to the public, sir. I can very vaguely recall email existing when I was 10 years old.
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United States24813 Posts
On March 08 2010 13:26 Chef wrote:
Over ten years ago? That's bordering on the introduction of email to the public, sir. I can very vaguely recall email existing when I was 10 years old.
From wikipedia: Yahoo! Mail (shortened to Y! Mail) is a free web mail service provided by Yahoo!. It was inaugurated in 1997.
I got my first e-mail before my yahoo acct back in like... 98 or 99.
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On March 08 2010 13:29 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 13:26 Chef wrote:
Over ten years ago? That's bordering on the introduction of email to the public, sir. I can very vaguely recall email existing when I was 10 years old. From wikipedia: Yahoo! Mail (shortened to Y! Mail) is a free web mail service provided by Yahoo!. It was inaugurated in 1997. I got my first e-mail before my yahoo acct back in like... 98 or 99.
Cool
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United States24813 Posts
On March 08 2010 13:31 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 13:29 micronesia wrote:On March 08 2010 13:26 Chef wrote:
Over ten years ago? That's bordering on the introduction of email to the public, sir. I can very vaguely recall email existing when I was 10 years old. From wikipedia: Yahoo! Mail (shortened to Y! Mail) is a free web mail service provided by Yahoo!. It was inaugurated in 1997. I got my first e-mail before my yahoo acct back in like... 98 or 99. Cool
Contribution of the century! Especially since chef asked about it :p
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United States3824 Posts
Youtube won't let me unsuscribe every time I try it.
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lol micronesia is an eagle scout
what a good boy
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I wonder how many Eagle Scouts there are on Teamliquid. They as a whole, they're kind of an anachronistic organization, especially where I'm from and especially given their origin. I kind of predict a dwindling of Boy Scouts of America in general but it would be the first time I've made a completely unjustified prediction.
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i'm an eagle scout too.
high five. we should form a club or something.
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how i have solved this problem?
i use an email for subscribe to site and all other stuff that can make ma arrive tons of spam, and a email that i use only for friends and school.
results?
spam mail has like 30 msg per day of spam, "good" mail has 0 messages per day of spam.
try it out and live happy
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My school does this to me, I have 140 emails about things completely unrelated to my program.
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Look at the bright side micro:
We pwned 10-0 in our 2v2 placement matches with the imba duo mm rush.
I'm looking forward to seeing how good 2v2 teams deal with it though.
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eagle scout #3 here
spammed up inbox too (in the thousands)
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I think my hotmail account has been around so long even the spam bots have given up sending emails to it. What is annoying is how I'm getting spam on my skype, which started when a friend posted my skype username on facebook.
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