• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:45
CEST 01:45
KST 08:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)71ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7401 users

I like it on top...

Blogs > {88}iNcontroL
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:37:18
February 26 2010 10:29 GMT
#1
... of Platinum League #5 that is.

I'm really tired and too damn dumb to figure out where to host a picture so just go to this page to view the image: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Geoff-Robinson-iNcontroL/62884556670

EDIT:
[image loading]


I'm pretty proud.

I have hit a 15 game winning streak on my way to the top and I feel REALLY strong and confident. I can literally feel myself getting better and stronger with each game. I am not quite at the notebook stage as Artosis is but I can tell you: I am studying, I am practicing and I am putting more work into this than I have SCBW for a very long time.

I fully intend to do whatever I can to raise my level of play in SC2 to the highest I can.

I really think this game plays to my strengths and reduces the glaring deficiencies in my game.

It's a new era folks. One where the ultralisk puts down his scythes and picks up his mother fucking psiblades.

Some thoughts on my PvX experience with SC2 thus far:
+ Show Spoiler +
It is early. I don't want to reveal too much because I am told my play is fairly unique.. especially vs T/Z. That being said I think that Protoss offers some nice safe/strong builds that can be fairly reactive. I love the 1 gate tech and from there I can transition into 3 warpgates or 1 gate robo or 2 gate robo etc.. I really like the viable multiple unit combination's and the strength a varied protoss army offers. As a former Zerg player I was used to fairly constricted openings and limited viable unit combos..with protoss I feel my creative side is allowed to stretch out and really take advantage of my cerebral strengths in SC. Predicting their intentions off of the info I gather and making quick decisions has been what has always gotten me by.. I feel like the extra emphasis on strategy/builds in this game disconnects myself from my weakest traits and allows me to emphasize the greater weight of my abilities.

Vs zerg I am bashing their greedy heads. A lot of Z's will skip overseers because vs P they really are only used for Dt's so I find making even 1-2 dt's is almost ALWAYS cost effective because they now need to make overseers ALL game long and USUALLY they don't have one by the time I roll in. So I am good for some huge damage AND the equitable return economically on their expenses throughout the game on overseers. Additionally, I am finding air units really strong. Lots of Z's go muta so phoenix combinations help big time. Additionally, if I don't open DT I will often go 2 gate/forge warpray. 2-3 warprays vs a macro'ing FE Z or a roach rushing Z is hugely awesome. This has worked 100% of the time to varying degrees but needs some serious intel, if they are going faster hydra you are in a tight spot. I followed this up with DT and was able to balance the game and eventually shift it in my favor.

vs T I find the proxy pylon -> warpgate pressure to be intensely rewarding. Mixing Zeals is huge for the marauders but starting with Stalkers vs the early marine/reaper is a must. I then like to expand and transition into normal macro with temp/stalker/immortal/zeal(speed) and eventually I mix in a few colossus. This however is my weakest point in a PvT. I need to work on mid-> late game, my macro is fine but I forget to use the big boys like a mothership which is ALWAYS worth it and things like carriers or phoenix for the strong air units T's use in mid and late game.

vsP I was terribad. In my recent streak this was the biggest improvement. I have multiple viable builds that I love to open with. Proxy pylon -> warpgates is awesome and I rarely lose with that. I also like straight macro games where both P's usually sit on 1 base and mass up. Going stalker/zeal/sentry into immortal/collossus and moving out to expand. I usually rely on my strong macro and good timing sense here to win the game.

I am currently experimenting with warprays, phoenix and I will work with the drop ship pylon thingy. I am excited for the potential! I need to get better at using chrono boost later, I often find it at or around 80 which is unacceptably high. I also need to ALWAYS have a pair of sentries, I am lazy about that.



Anyways once Louder gets on he will probably dethrone me.. but we shall duel it out!



****
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 26 2010 10:37 GMT
#2
I agree with your take on being a Zerg player. It does take away from the ability to be creative. We just have to adapt and macro which isn't fun or creative. Terran and Protoss have so much room for innovative play it makes me sad I can't use either of them nearly as well as I can use Zerg.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
February 26 2010 10:46 GMT
#3
i need to use Dts more versus Z.
good lookin out
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:02:12
February 26 2010 10:57 GMT
#4
You certainly made me question my sexuality after being brutally manhandled by you twice in a row.

edit: I feel like it aided me in my DT crisis management skills though, so thanks. =P
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1433 Posts
February 26 2010 11:28 GMT
#5
we should remake the epic match on nostalgia for sc2 : )

mada mada dane
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 26 2010 11:30 GMT
#6
phase one of my prediction great

now all u need is to step it up in korea when u make it
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 26 2010 11:33 GMT
#7
post a screenshot of the top 8 rank P_D-5
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 26 2010 11:36 GMT
#8
i knew as soon as i saw sc2, after having just seein u play on louder's stream vs juan, that your style would be perfect... thats why i really hope you are the next great white hope
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 26 2010 11:38 GMT
#9
On February 26 2010 20:36 Bill Murray wrote:
i knew as soon as i saw sc2, after having just seein u play on louder's stream vs juan, that your style would be perfect... thats why i really hope you are the next great white hope


I'm going to do everything I can to make this true
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:40:01
February 26 2010 11:38 GMT
#10
Thats awesome dude! keep up the good work. We hope to see some US players really shine for SC2.

Have you been trying to perfect a few builds for each matchup? Also are you randoming or playing just toss??
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
February 26 2010 11:40 GMT
#11
Replays or it didnt happen!

gz !
Street Vendor Crack Down Princess-Cop!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 26 2010 11:42 GMT
#12
On February 26 2010 20:38 lightrise wrote:
Thats awesome dude! keep up the good work. We hope to see some US players really shine for SC2.

Have you been trying to perfect a few builds for each matchup? Also are you randoming or playing just toss??


I am solid P. Haven't played a single game with T/Z yet.. going to but atm I just want to be the best P.

I am doing many builds but I certainly have a "style"
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 11:46:32
February 26 2010 11:45 GMT
#13
You betrayed the hive

What do you think about the game itself ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 26 2010 11:48 GMT
#14
just remember that people are still fishing for the next bisu build so to say... revolutionary shit will be coming, but u could win games in 2000 or 2010 with a 2 gate
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 26 2010 11:49 GMT
#15
btw, as far as ive seen, u and louder are the nicest "semi pros'... funny ur on the same team
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
February 26 2010 11:58 GMT
#16
How do you feel about PVZ, some replays I have seen that go into the mid game, the z just gets a hugely better economy than the P. Is this more to lax play by the P or is there a problem here?

I still find it very odd to see so few hatcheries and still such a good economy going.. very odd ;P
Street Vendor Crack Down Princess-Cop!
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 26 2010 12:38 GMT
#17
every former good player is playing p lol.. there has to be some balances O_O
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 26 2010 12:43 GMT
#18
How dare you wear that Ultralisk...
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
February 26 2010 13:03 GMT
#19
good luck inc,I believe your aggressive BW style will fit well for SC2 =)
ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
February 26 2010 13:29 GMT
#20
That is pretty interesting that so many people are picking P. The balancing issues will be address certainly, and the other races will get up there in due time. Zerg and Terran require far more advanced micro and positioning techniques than Protoss, so that should come later. I feel Protoss is mostly about decisive action, aggression, and army composition, which I feel is easier to do when you first see the game. You know what counters what, so you figure out what the opponent has and build accordingly.

Just a thought that came into my mind while reading this ~.~
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:30
FSL TeamLeague: ST vs POG
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft436
ViBE175
NeuroSwarm 114
CosmosSc2 62
SpeCial 5
StarCraft: Brood War
MaD[AoV]30
Purpose 11
League of Legends
JimRising 631
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe149
Other Games
summit1g16416
FrodaN2591
ZombieGrub135
KnowMe121
PPMD37
UpATreeSC34
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2822
Other Games
gamesdonequick764
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 90
• davetesta20
• RyuSc2 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
5h 15m
Maestros of the Game
12h 45m
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
14h 15m
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 5h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 14h
Online Event
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
OSC
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSCL: Masked Kings S4
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.