EPTLife is Unfair :( - Page 4
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Also, some people have better short-term memory than others, which are really helpful when it comes to test-taking (I guess this is somewhat "life is not fair"). | ||
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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On January 26 2010 13:50 Monokeros wrote: if life were fair then everything would basically be 'easy', someone who grew up around a sport, compared to someone who wasn't if they both work hard, hypothetically equally, it's more likely the person who grew up around it is going to be better. Is that fair? Is it the latter person's fault for not growing up around the sport, no its just what he was given. If everyone was given the same thing at the start, then the challenges we face now would be nonexistant. I'm pretty sure if everything were fair, we'd all speak one race, have one religion and basically be a giant monolith of the SAME because if anyone is different they'll have an advantage/disadvantage over someone else. (AKA Unfair) Life is meaningless. Though it still isn't fair. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
And as that guy said, you can study much more and better if you study 1 hour for six days than if you cram six hours right before the exam starts. Don't trust what "smart guys" say about studying. They think that making themselves look like if they were born with that knowledge is going to make it any more impressive; it's just a farse and employers know it. And yeah, learn how to learn. I guess you are in an economics major or something so I don't really know your subjects, but reasoning every single line and connecting it to previous knowledge is imo. the best way to learn. | ||
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FonzeXD
United States220 Posts
On January 26 2010 14:31 redtooth wrote: you're a tool. seriously. please go fall off a cliff or get mauled by the werewolf. in other news, guess i'm also one of those "lazy ass kids" that do well in school. there's a few things i got to say on the subject coming from my perspective. may sound sort of preachy but i have strong feelings about the subject. first: despite what i said in the previous paragraph, you need to stop polarizing people between those two groups. its not some caste system you were born into and will forever be stuck in. besides, many bums jealous of you hard workers. i cannot sit still in a chair and study but some people can just pour into books and learn everything. it's an important trait that i'm sure many many "lazy bums" are envious of. a good work ethic is something to be proud of. second: if he isn't rubbing it in your face (intentionally at least) then leave him the fuck alone. you got no reason to spite him for doing the minimum work possible to do well. seriously who the hell wouldn't. my roommate bitched at me once for playing all the time and getting better grades and i was seriously going to kick the shit out of him. third: maybe your university is just too hard for you? i watched a ridiculous number of freshman at CMU transfer out after their first semester. don't stay in the same school if you think you're going to get raped for the next four years and not have a social life in the process. I like how you still tried to contribute to the tread XD good job! Everything you said though was like listening to my robot voice in the fan: USELESS! xD | ||
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TwoSugarsAndACream
Canada21 Posts
Btw, I've been doing co-op and I can tell you smarts isn't everything. Be organized. I can't stress how it is important to get organized. It doesn't take smarts to become a manager, but the initiative to get things done and know where your files are (I got into some dirty poopsicles this morning for losing 200 pages). Just based on the fact you go to the library shows you have some initiative to study, gj, not many ppl can do that. I know a lot of people who are super smart and fail (fail rate in UW engineering is pretty bad though). My 3rd 4th year experience is you gotta constantly study to keep up. To get caught up you HAVE to sit down and do ALL of your homework. I know people who complain about how some ppl are smart and get through univ cuz they are gifted. WRONG. Just friggin do your homework from Day 1, and don't take shortcuts and read solutions before attempting homework. Sorry to sound like a dad but some of my buddies who failed just dont get it. I sit down everyday and do homework for 3 hours to get to where I am today, and I won't lie to you when I say I am the more fortunate people who can understand faster than the norm (at least engineering anyway) and I still have to do all of my hw. People complain about the "gifted people", but honestly input = output. If you want to be top 10 then sry you need the smarts. But smart people dont necessarily pass. Hard workers do. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Equaoh
Canada427 Posts
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ero
United States66 Posts
On January 26 2010 16:28 Warrior Madness wrote: This. I used to be one of these people and I would always try to emphasize how little I studied...It was a really understated form of bragging but it was obnoxious none the less. The thing is, I did study a lot less than most people and got far better marks but I definitely put in a lot more effort in less amount of time. I may have studied three hours a day to others' six, sometimes more a day, but I studied WAY harder and a lot smarter than they did. Look, when some people "study" what they really mean is that they read and reread the same chapter over and over again in the hopes that all the important information will somehow sink in.... I made it a priority to actually, LEARN how to learn. I took extra time to go to classes on how to study, manage your motivation and time, and I did a Hell of a lot of research in my free time (I still do) on different study strategies. Before I even start reading, I activate all my prior knowledge... I recite what I know about the topic, anything I think might be related to it, predict what will be discussed, and by the time I actually start reading I have a long list of questions already prepared. To memorize something I use a technique called mnemonics. I can probably memorize things three times as fast as most people can but it took me half a semester to learn the skill, and to make it payoff (It initially took me LONGER to memorize when I first started). I never ever cram. Ever. For exams, I only do a quick one hour review like your friend. How? I use something called Supermemo.... It's based on this thing called spaced repetition. You will remember something more easily and more accurately if you study something a FEW times over a long period of time, rather than studying something repeatedly in a short period of time. So instead of cramming something in a span of six hours..... I learn something, then I review it the next day, then a week after, then three months after, then a year after. Everything that I've learned is as fresh in my mind as when I first learned it. So I never go on long marathon studies like other do. I relax instead. Lastly, most importantly, I learned that learning how to manage your motivation is more important than learning study skills. Because it's the difference between staying energized and commited to your goal versus feeling apathetic and helpless. It's the difference between accomplishing your educational schools and BEYOND, and dropping out. A few resources: Books on motivation: http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Motivation-Strategies-Guide-Success/dp/0131712020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490539&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Motivation-Work-Building-Commitment/dp/1576752380/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490576&sr=1-2-spell Active Reading: http://www.amazon.com/Active-Reading-Arts-Sciences-3rd/dp/0205200478/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490613&sr=1-2 http://www.amazon.com/What-Smart-Students-Know-Learning/dp/0517880857/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490628&sr=1-1 Memory: http://www.amazon.com/Super-Memory-Student-Raise-Grades/dp/0316532681/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Power-Exams-Cliffs-Test/dp/0822020599/ref=pd_sim_b_56 http://www.amazon.com/Your-Memory-How-Works-Improve/dp/1569246297/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490652&sr=1-4 http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Key-Unlock-Secrets-Remembering/dp/076076252X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490683&sr=1-1 Note- Taking: http://moodle.memory-key.com/cubecart/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=2 Concept Maps: http://cmap.ihmc.us/conceptmap.html SUPERMEMO: http://www.supermemo.com/ I agree with everything in this post. Particularly the bolded statement. I can't stress enough -- quantifying "how much you studied" in no way gives you a free pass to complain about doing poorly on an exam. The onus is on you to actually LEARN the material. Also, +1 recommendation for supermemo, which I still use to this day (beats the hell out of Rosetta Stone for language acquisition.) | ||
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UFO
582 Posts
There are 5 people trying to rise the same, heavy object, that once risen to one level, does not fall back immidetaly. First one decides to use willpower but nothing happens so he says fuck it. Second one decides to make a falsification, trying to make people think he made it. Third one decides to use hard work , he lifts it a little bit higher everyday. Fourth one comes and sees the object. Then he decides what technique or tool to use. Then he gets a leverage and lifts it day by day until he lifts it , makes it quite fast. Fifth one is exceptionally aware one . He lifts it with his arm in one turn but he never tells it to anyone because people don`t believe in fairytales, only after next 300 years or so. Find a leverage. You can be astonished of how easy or ridicilously easy it actually can be. Its a bliss that you have a friend like you described. You can get info out of him that will help you to construct your own levarage. You might copy something but its often the case that it doesn`t suit, sometimes completely. You can modify some already existent , that is a good idea. Don`t be a victim of " I was born average" . There is not a thing that would stop you from changing from average to amazing. People are born with certain degree of intelligence - but does really physical strength that important when you use a leverage ? It becomes a lot less important , sometimes unimportant. It really is very similar when it comes to studying . There is a vast difference between people`s phisical strength and the intelligence lvl`s - but - open-mindness , creaitivity and sensitivity to the new truths are vastly more important than this physical strength - for they are what can multiply it by unthinkable amounts. When someone says - this is impossible - he is not realistical or sceptical - he mistakes scepticism for narrow-mindness and falsce assumptions. ----------------------------------- You said you are depressed right now - but can`t this situation give u a tremendous motivation if you take another perspective ? Wouldn`t you be satisfied if you actually were able to study for something like this in 1 hour , then own it in 20 minutes and call your friend that you 1a2a3a4a`ed it ? It is possible no matter what you think right now. You need to find a way. If you at one point say that its impossible you are giving up and walking out of this way and really not proving that it is impossible. -------------------- PS . Hard-workers. Why would they continute to hard-work if they had tools or/and techniques to make hard-work unnecesary ? They don`t have it because they believe it doesn`t exist. So they rather won`t discover it, no wonder. | ||
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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UFO
582 Posts
On January 27 2010 01:19 ero wrote: I agree with everything in this post. Particularly the bolded statement. I can't stress enough -- quantifying "how much you studied" in no way gives you a free pass to complain about doing poorly on an exam. The onus is on you to actually LEARN the material. Also, +1 recommendation for supermemo, which I still use to this day (beats the hell out of Rosetta Stone for language acquisition.) While these materials are very useful ones, its really not recommended to blindly copy or do exactly what they say , without understanding. Its recommened to see the framework. This is - to understand on what exactly does the succes rely on. Most of these learning techniques rely on combining imagination with logic. They form techniques upon that concept and give ready ones to you. Most of these techniques aren`t universal, working for everyone, far from it in fact, nor are they optimal. | ||
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UFO
582 Posts
On January 27 2010 01:45 Pengu1n wrote: its 30 multiple choice questions....he coulda got most of them wrong and still thought he raped it... input = output input --------> process --------> = output input can be multiplied in the process. by a whole lot. so with the same input you can get different output. | ||
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vRoOk
United States1024 Posts
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Zerksys
United States569 Posts
On January 26 2010 14:13 Mr.Maestro wrote: I'm not crying about it... I just feel really down and wanted opinions on how to think around this situation.. =/ Think about it like you're Flash. You won the Ever OSL and had a chance to make history and win the Nate MSL. You're up against Jaedong, a player that you know that you have the ability to beat. Score's all tied up 1 to 1. You're in the middle of round three and suddenly the power shuts off and the referee awards the victory to jaedong because he "seemingly had an advantage." You think, no problem, I can take him in the next game. You decide to try some cheese. You go 8 Rax and think that you're going to win with an early marine rush. Jaedong, however, seemed to mysteriously guess what you were doing and he went 9 pool! Because of these circumstances, you lost your chance at the title that you believe is rightfully yours, and you believe that, given a chance, you could have proved yourself. Now what does Flash do? He practices more and steamrolls Jaedong in the proleague! This is what you have to do. Don't look at your exam grade as a loss, look the next exam as a chance to prove yourself. If you have a decent professor, he'll take into account that your grade has an upward trend. P.S. If you don't understand the reference watch the Nate MSL finals :D P.P.S. Actually don't. Go study | ||
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
I guess all I can say is make sure you understand why the concepts you're learning work, and then everything kinda falls into place. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
The day will come when a person realizes that the rest of the world thinking they're smart doesn't really matter, and the only way to make yourself happy is to work your ass off; that competing and winning is still less than simply trying your utmost. And when that time comes it's really fucking hard to learn work ethic. As long as you avoid being bitter about people who [seem] to be 'more gifted' than you, you'll retain the power to make life what you want it to be. This is key though. I know people who always had good work ethic but held resentment against others who a) didn't have to try to succeed b) never thought it important to try, and these people are no better off because their dispositions are juvenile and handicapping. I wish i could convey how freeing my current axioms allow for: 1) It's not about being right 2) You amount to nothing more than what you feel 3) Giving only half means you'll never feel like you accomplished anything but only half of what you could have | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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