EPTHowever, it is typical for people that study a lot to say the test is easy and/or he/she didn't study for it. This is because many people do not have to be perceived as nerds.
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
However, it is typical for people that study a lot to say the test is easy and/or he/she didn't study for it. This is because many people do not have to be perceived as nerds. | ||
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ero
United States66 Posts
When I studied, I did so with the intention of learning the material. I focused, scribbled notes, made "mind maps", thought hard, asked tough questions -- really tried to wrap my head around the material. Yet half of my peers engaged in what I call "feel good busy work". They read a chapter without asking why they need to read it, or what they'll gain from it. They work on a practice problem without asking about its relevance. They jump through all these hoops -- "studying" -- so they can justify their whining when they do poorly on the exam. Imagine if you were a bodybuilder. And imagine that there's always this scrawny guy at your gym. He lifts a 5lb dumbell over and over, three hours a day, every day. And he eventually approaches you to complain about this bodybuilding bullshit, and how it doesn't work, etc. You wouldn't give him sympathy. To gain muscle, you have to work smart and exert yourself beyond your comfort zone -- perhaps as little as a couple times a week. Learning new material works the same way. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On January 26 2010 13:49 Picture wrote: This is econ 101? It's like the exact same course as the high school course lol. But dont feel bad. beacuse 1. Some people have taken it before 2. Some people lie (actually a lot) 3. Econ 101 is pretty much all about how much you read/listen in lectures. good memory helps but there is no way someone who skips class everyday can learn everything in 1 hour. He's either 1 or 2 above. I completely agree with this post. Trust me, there are many plausible explanations for why this guy is doing better than you. He might be years ahead of you intellectually right now because of the kind of activities he did in high school or even before, or he might be better than you at this specific subject due to previous exposure to it, or he might even just be putting on the appearance that he doesn't try at all in his courses. As a side note, during my undergrad on several occasions, classmates of mine asked me how I'm able to do so well in classes without studying, called me a genius, etc, and I would just laugh and explain that they are wrong that I don't study: I consistently work my ass off to try to intuitively understand every little thing in a course and turn in assignments that are 100% correct; I'm no 'genius'. In fact, I'm of the belief that there is no such thing as a genius, it's all about what you have learned and how you have learned it. If someone is a so-called genius there's always an explanation behind it. And when people get in the mindset that they are a genius they tend to become self absorbed and have less motivation to improve their intellect, i.e, they become lazy. I know of two people that this exact thing happened to; I started behind them intellectually when I first knew them and wondered how they did what the did, but ended up passing them after a while. The point is, stay motivated. During college, you can develop yourself intellectually, socially, or however you want if you are motivated, and you won't even recognize yourself after your years there. I'm currently doing graduate work in computer science, so if you have any questions about engineering or college in general feel free to PM me or respond here. | ||
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SniperVul5
Canada166 Posts
Even though there are bumps in the road, I refuse to believe that hard work will not pay off in the future. One example for me is when I almost failed high school english in grade 10. I worked my ass off in gr 11 but once again only barely passed. But in grade 12 I finally started getting the hang of it and really started to do well. Now I'm in first year university and English is really enjoyable (doesn't mean it isnt hard). It might not come in one year, might not even come in two years, but it comes eventually. Similarly, when you see people not studying, usually they study their ass off when your not looking, or they study efficiently. I know personally that when I study for example chemistry or math, I often review all the time so that when the final exam comes I dont really need to do anything. Mabye in the future........balance your time and don't underestimate your buddy. EDIT: I fully support the post above V(O_O)o victory o(O_O)b approved | ||
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ero
United States66 Posts
The point is, stay motivated. During college, you can develop yourself intellectually, socially, or however you want if you are motivated, and you won't even recognize yourself after your years there. I'm currently doing graduate work in computer science, so if you have any questions about engineering or college in general feel free to PM me or respond here. College is a unique growth opportunity, and I wish I was more aware of it at the time. My only regrets were those days/weeks when I wasn't at least motivated to work on something. For the sake of full disclosure though, if you want to go to grad school then you will eventually have that "oh shit I should have studied harder" moment. | ||
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Kwidowmaker
Canada978 Posts
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Taiwan619 Posts
On January 26 2010 14:48 illu wrote: Typically, ppl that leaves early didnt study. However, it is typical for people that study a lot to say the test is easy and/or he/she didn't study for it. This is because many people do not have to be perceived as nerds. truths. i study pretty damn hard sometimes but I'm never the first to turn in a test. I always make sure to double/triple check. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
But in college there simply are too many koreans to be able to dodge them. And your rank will thus seem inflated (it was inflated). Your friend simply has better mechanics, because he did all the grunt work without dodging or picking opponents (read: only reading high school text books and thinking he was smart). So my advice to you is: start working on your mechanics rather than doing these race specific all-in builds. It'll take you alot longer and be alot harder, but it'll save you from looking like a pseudo-intellectual (progamer with no macro). | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On January 26 2010 14:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah, it's like Starcraft players always emphasizing their obnoxious practice hours to try to intimidate players. Few players are like Stork, admitting that the play WoW and watch One Piece, because they want to create this mystique. And obviously, they do practice an absolute ton. But they certainly have plenty of incentives to exaggerate it. This. I used to be one of these people and I would always try to emphasize how little I studied...It was a really understated form of bragging but it was obnoxious none the less. The thing is, I did study a lot less than most people and got far better marks but I definitely put in a lot more effort in less amount of time. I may have studied three hours a day to others' six, sometimes more a day, but I studied WAY harder and a lot smarter than they did. Look, when some people "study" what they really mean is that they read and reread the same chapter over and over again in the hopes that all the important information will somehow sink in.... I made it a priority to actually, LEARN how to learn. I took extra time to go to classes on how to study, manage your motivation and time, and I did a Hell of a lot of research in my free time (I still do) on different study strategies. Before I even start reading, I activate all my prior knowledge... I recite what I know about the topic, anything I think might be related to it, predict what will be discussed, and by the time I actually start reading I have a long list of questions already prepared. To memorize something I use a technique called mnemonics. I can probably memorize things three times as fast as most people can but it took me half a semester to learn the skill, and to make it payoff (It initially took me LONGER to memorize when I first started). I never ever cram. Ever. For exams, I only do a quick one hour review like your friend. How? I use something called Supermemo.... It's based on this thing called spaced repetition. You will remember something more easily and more accurately if you study something a FEW times over a long period of time, rather than studying something repeatedly in a short period of time. So instead of cramming something in a span of six hours..... I learn something, then I review it the next day, then a week after, then three months after, then a year after. Everything that I've learned is as fresh in my mind as when I first learned it. So I never go on long marathon studies like other do. I relax instead. Lastly, most importantly, I learned that learning how to manage your motivation is more important than learning study skills. Because it's the difference between staying energized and commited to your goal versus feeling apathetic and helpless. It's the difference between accomplishing your educational schools and BEYOND, and dropping out. A few resources: Books on motivation: http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Motivation-Strategies-Guide-Success/dp/0131712020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490539&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Motivation-Work-Building-Commitment/dp/1576752380/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490576&sr=1-2-spell Active Reading: http://www.amazon.com/Active-Reading-Arts-Sciences-3rd/dp/0205200478/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490613&sr=1-2 http://www.amazon.com/What-Smart-Students-Know-Learning/dp/0517880857/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490628&sr=1-1 Memory: http://www.amazon.com/Super-Memory-Student-Raise-Grades/dp/0316532681/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Power-Exams-Cliffs-Test/dp/0822020599/ref=pd_sim_b_56 http://www.amazon.com/Your-Memory-How-Works-Improve/dp/1569246297/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490652&sr=1-4 http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Key-Unlock-Secrets-Remembering/dp/076076252X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264490683&sr=1-1 Note- Taking: http://moodle.memory-key.com/cubecart/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=2 Concept Maps: http://cmap.ihmc.us/conceptmap.html SUPERMEMO: http://www.supermemo.com/ | ||
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Schismotive
United States60 Posts
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
On January 26 2010 16:25 LaLuSh wrote: You probably played non koreans in high school in order to achieve your A- rank. But in college there simply are too many koreans to be able to dodge them. And your rank will thus seem inflated (it was inflated). Your friend simply has better mechanics, because he did all the grunt work without dodging or picking opponents (read: only reading high school text books and thinking he was smart). So my advice to you is: start working on your mechanics rather than doing these race specific all-in builds. It'll take you alot longer and be alot harder, but it'll save you from looking like a pseudo-intellectual (progamer with no macro). Best post of the threat | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On January 26 2010 15:14 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: In fact, I'm of the belief that there is no such thing as a genius, it's all about what you have learned and how you have learned it. I agree with this to a certain extent. Imo, many people that we consider to be a genius aren't actually a genius but there are a select few whose intellectual capabilities are much better than other smart people. Also, I rarely went (and dozed off when I did) to my 1st year econ classes at Laurier cause I took AP econ in high school and I still got As but those courses are no harder at Waterloo so I'm pretty sure you need to study more efficiently. Intro to econ is not a hard course at all if you know what to focus on. Summary: Your friend's probably not a genius and you probably need to work on your study methods. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On January 26 2010 16:43 lazz wrote: wow this thread is shit. people just masturbating everywhere I agree. Someone should just tell OP that anyone that fails first year fails at life. First year is supposed to be a joke. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On January 26 2010 16:43 lazz wrote: wow this thread is shit. people just masturbating everywhere Why is that bad? The op really asked for it. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On January 26 2010 16:25 LaLuSh wrote: You probably played non koreans in high school in order to achieve your A- rank. But in college there simply are too many koreans to be able to dodge them. And your rank will thus seem inflated (it was inflated). Your friend simply has better mechanics, because he did all the grunt work without dodging or picking opponents (read: only reading high school text books and thinking he was smart). So my advice to you is: start working on your mechanics rather than doing these race specific all-in builds. It'll take you alot longer and be alot harder, but it'll save you from looking like a pseudo-intellectual (progamer with no macro). Looking like a progamer with no macro? Firebathero is looking pretty sexy from my point of view... | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
Don't get discouraged and start to underestimate the value of hard work... I've had plenty of friends who weren't strong academically (read: who just weren't that smart [lol]), but who excelled and beat kids who were brighter than them just by being diligent and on top of their studies. I guess if I were you I'd analyze your study habits, since maybe the way you study now is ineffective (like what other posters have said  ). Life is unfair in that we're not all equal in our abilities, and it does suck having to put in more effort than others, but if the ultimate end goal is to excel through college, I guess you just have to do what it takes to get there. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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dogabutila
United States1438 Posts
TBH, sometimes freshman classes are too slow because some people cant understand and ask retarded questions and hold up the class....but its good that you can study and struggle because you atleast learn how to develop the habit to study. Now, I am struggling in school because I never really learned how to study (just read the book really...) or take notes. School gets harder and you are more prepared for it then the others are. School now....I had to learn how to photoshop so my parents wouldn't see my real grades... | ||
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