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On January 26 2010 13:50 Monokeros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 13:45 jiabung wrote:On January 26 2010 13:41 Soledad wrote:
I didn't read your entire anecdote, but I have one shred of advice to offer you: If life were not fair, then life would truly be meaningless. what?? this doesn't make any sense to me. if life were fair then everything would basically be 'easy', someone who grew up around a sport, compared to someone who wasn't if they both work hard, hypothetically equally, it's more likely the person who grew up around it is going to be better. Is that fair? Is it the latter person's fault for not growing up around the sport, no its just what he was given. If everyone was given the same thing at the start, then the challenges we face now would be nonexistant. I'm pretty sure if everything were fair, we'd all speak one race, have one religion and basically be a giant monolith of the SAME because if anyone is different they'll have an advantage/disadvantage over someone else. (AKA Unfair)
that is what I think it's supposed to mean, but then it should be worded "If life were fair, then life would be meaningless", not the complete opposite.
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Did you get Larry Smith?
As for the exam, don't worry too much about it. Don't think about the other people in the room. Some leave because they got owned and can't do anything about it; some leave because they owned the exam. You may never know and it shouldn't concern you.
Just do the best you can with the information you have. Change your study habits, find friends to study with, find out what works best for you and do it!
As for people like your roommate: like most people said, they will become more and more rare. However, you will still see them. Not necessarily the extremely lazy/complacent ones, but the ones who know exactly what they need to do and can do it in an abnormally short amount of time. I know people who barely have to study to maintain VERY good grades. Not all people are created equal, and we have to deal with that >_>...
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On January 26 2010 13:49 Azrael1111 wrote:
Tons of people play off how hard they study, this is more likely whats is causing you to feel this way than actually being less intelligent than them.
Yeah, it's like Starcraft players always emphasizing their obnoxious practice hours to try to intimidate players. Few players are like Stork, admitting that the play WoW and watch One Piece, because they want to create this mystique. And obviously, they do practice an absolute ton. But they certainly have plenty of incentives to exaggerate it.
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As a poster said before, people lie a lot. Some people lie that they studied a lot when they didn't study at all.
More often though, people lie that they didn't study when they really worked their asses off. It's hard to believe so many people lie if you yourself are a very honest person but trust me so many people lie about shit all the time.
They want you to think they don't study in order to bring you down because you are their competition. It may even be subconscious to them because they lie so goddamn much.
Just do what you need to do to get the grades that satisfy you.
Life isn't fair at all so don't expect it to be...
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On January 26 2010 14:06 Chromyne wrote:
Did you get Larry Smith?
As for the exam, don't worry too much about it. Don't think about the other people in the room. Some leave because they got owned and can't do anything about it; some leave because they owned the exam. You may never know and it shouldn't concern you.
Just do the best you can with the information you have. Change your study habits, find friends to study with, find out what works best for you and do it!
As for people like your roommate: like most people said, they will become more and more rare. However, you will still see them. Not necessarily the extremely lazy/complacent ones, but the ones who know exactly what they need to do and can do it in an abnormally short amount of time. I know people who barely have to study to maintain VERY good grades. Not all people are created equal, and we have to deal with that >_>...
Naw I got Eva Lau...
I heard Larry Smith is a nightmare :S
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Dude, college is harder than high school. I do feel your pain, but tough it out a little bit longer. See the thing is, one thing that I realized in high school was that there are going to be people that just don't work at all and get 4.0s in everything. I realized that there are people a lot smarter than me and learned to deal with it by working a little extra harder. This may not seem fair, but then again, if the world were truly fair it would be a very boring world.
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Tell me about it.
What do you do? You live with it.
Happens all the time, not just in school.
Example of life being unfair:
High school AP Microeconomics (LOL, AP ECON)
I slack off in this class because I'm a terrible student okay? Well, anyway, we get pop quizzes every once in a while in this class, but we're allowed to use our notes on these. This keeps us honest in our readings and gives us incentive to take notes. Of course, being near the end of the term with a 97~98% doesn't really help me want to try. What do I do? I just read it, not remember a thing, and don't take any notes. Next day, pop quiz. My friend right next to me has his notes and everything. He's like, reviewing about it before hand, and I was just like OH FUCK. So I get the quiz, and I hardly know anything, lol. I'm like, damnit... But hey, at least there's a bonus question.  So I'm the last one to finish the test, and I get freaked out because I hate doing poorly in school. We get our quizzes back in about 5 minutes, and guess what I got? A freaking 15/14. The best score in the class. Now I ask you, is this fair? No, I deserved a 7/14 MAX. My friend, got an 11/14. He should've got my 15. But you know what this means? I get screwed over in other parts of life.
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You are right, life is unfair. Gotta deal with and not cry about it.
EDIT: To braggars: Bragging won't make the OP feel better.
To people who think people lie about studying: This doesnt apply if you see them playing iccup (or something like that) almost 24/7.
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On January 26 2010 14:09 Mr.Maestro wrote:
Naw I got Eva Lau...
I heard Larry Smith is a nightmare :S
What?! I heard he's awesome, unless you're referring to his exams.
In response to what JadeFist said, I agree that it's a common practice to lie about study habits. It's sort of a self-handicap for students. If they do worse than others, they can explain it with their lack of studying. If they do better than others, they can flaunt their unexpected performance. I'm sure it happens even more frequently in more competitive programs/courses. I probably do it too.
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On January 26 2010 14:12 WindCalibur wrote:
You are right, life is unfair. Gotta deal with and not cry about it.
I'm not crying about it...
I just feel really down and wanted opinions on how to think around this situation..
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Well to make you feel better, I guess you can believe that your friend won't be able to abuse his intelligence for his entire life. Sooner or later he will hit a point where he needs to study or else he will fail. While you may not be as smart as him, when the time comes, at least you will have the self will to study.
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I hope you're right, or else the OP will be really sad. There are people out there that are THAT smart.
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Wait until you start hitting complicated mathematics in Economics, or hell, even easy calculus. Then I can start hearing about the unfairness.
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Look at the amount of braggers in this thread and you'll know why people lie. I love how people are writing essays here, and some of the stories aren't even slightly believable.
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ah, that's just life. Now i'm definitely smarter than the average guy, and im also lazy as fuck. But theres always people that are smarter than you, and usually it helps me when i feel jealous that theres plenty of people even smarter than the really smart people. It's just how the world aligned itself and theres nothing you can do about it. Try to appreciate what you got (:
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On January 26 2010 14:18 Chromyne wrote:
I hope you're right, or else the OP will be really sad. There are people out there that are THAT smart.
And if you compare yourself to geniuses like those often, you will eventually drive yourself insane.
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On January 26 2010 14:13 Chromyne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 14:09 Mr.Maestro wrote:
Naw I got Eva Lau...
I heard Larry Smith is a nightmare :S What?! I heard he's awesome, unless you're referring to his exams. In response to what JadeFist said, I agree that it's a common practice to lie about study habits. It's sort of a self-handicap for students. If they do worse than others, they can explain it with their lack of studying. If they do better than others, they can flaunt their unexpected performance. I'm sure it happens even more frequently in more competitive programs/courses. I probably do it too.
The vast majority of college students will always have self-protecting biases because they have high self esteems, even if they try to hide it (i.e. by not being douchebags).
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But here's something to cheer you up. Intelligence can help you a lot, but once you get out of introductory level courses, or even the hell out of education itself, there are a lot of people in this world who value hard work way more than intelligence.
I can say from experience that this is absolutely true, lol. The sooner you learn to work for your results, the better off you will be.
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On January 26 2010 14:02 FonzeXD wrote:
The guy you described sounds like me XD lazy mother fucker who just plays SC all day, but, hand me college work and it's like PvZ, fast expand and snipe the ovies with corsairs before they get speed.
I see other people studying around me all the time and I think to myself, wow, shouldn't I be doing that? Then I actually go and take the same test I see those mother fuckers studying for and I get a 95 and they get Bs or Cs. Like, wtf were they doing when they study, reading their blank sheets of paper? I just try to play back every moment of the lecture that the teacher gave us in my head and it all becomes clear. Even tests are fucking easy to do without even studying for them, just remembering some notes and the lecture. I smoke pot all day and have some memory problems but I can still remember entire lectures, woaah XP you're a tool. seriously. please go fall off a cliff or get mauled by the werewolf.
in other news, guess i'm also one of those "lazy ass kids" that do well in school. there's a few things i got to say on the subject coming from my perspective. may sound sort of preachy but i have strong feelings about the subject.
first: despite what i said in the previous paragraph, you need to stop polarizing people between those two groups. its not some caste system you were born into and will forever be stuck in. besides, many bums jealous of you hard workers. i cannot sit still in a chair and study but some people can just pour into books and learn everything. it's an important trait that i'm sure many many "lazy bums" are envious of. a good work ethic is something to be proud of.
second: if he isn't rubbing it in your face (intentionally at least) then leave him the fuck alone. you got no reason to spite him for doing the minimum work possible to do well. seriously who the hell wouldn't. my roommate bitched at me once for playing all the time and getting better grades and i was seriously going to kick the shit out of him.
third: maybe your university is just too hard for you? i watched a ridiculous number of freshman at CMU transfer out after their first semester. don't stay in the same school if you think you're going to get raped for the next four years and not have a social life in the process.
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My friends say that they played on Saturday, but they studied until they bled on the forehead.
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