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Update:
So turns out she was fucking her ex-boyfriend. How fucking stupid do you have to be to have a long, detailed conversation with him about it open on your computer when i was using it to order her some take out? After she KNEW i snooped her facebook and KNEW i was suspicious.
Gave her a chance to come out with it. Made it clear i wasn't fucking around, and still she has the nerve to deny it, so i kicked her out of my apartment right there. I told her to take anything that was hers. "Does this mean you're breaking up with me??"
What a dumb whore. I guess in the end i learned a few things and stopped it from dragging on forever.
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So I guess I'm making a notorious TL girl problem thread...
I've got a girlfriend of 2+ years who i go to university with and it's been mostly pretty good. One thing about her - she extremely friendly. Borderline flirtatious with just about any male she meets, even if she doesn't do it consciously.
(semi-relevant paragraph)
A couple of months ago, she started talking again with her last boyfriend who during the course of our relationship, she had never spoken to. They talked on the phone, but mostly just texted - texted like 2 kids in junior high just starting puberty. I told her it bothered me, and she said she wouldn't text him as much. We're on winter break now, so I've only seen her once over the past couple of weeks. When I did, it seemed like she had stopped texting him. I was suspicious though and checked her facebook PM inbox because she has her login saved on my laptop. She was now just facebook messaging him instead.
Today she told me she had been at a party last night and said she fell asleep as someone was talking to her. Her story was kinda oddly specific and strange, so I looked on her facebook inbox and saw that she had made up the story to cover for hooking up with a guy at the party. I would guess that they just made out or something, most likely not sex. This is just some random guy, that she is semi-friends with.
This isn't the first time either. She admitted making out with a random guy last year as well.
I don't know if she'll tell me without me confronting her. I won't be able to just wait around and see if she does, I wouldn't be able to pretend to be nonchalant...
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum?
update:
Well i confronted her. First i asked her if the story she had first told me was true, (about her falling asleep for 15 minutes) and she just acted confused and didn't really say anything. Then i eventually told her i had seen the FB messages and that she couldn't be telling the truth. Still, she vaguely denied anything happening that she hadn't told me about.
She "explained" that the guy was confronting her about his own girl problems and she thought it had been awkward, and he didn't want anyone else to know about his emotional problems or whatever. But she had already told me this the first time she called me, so it didn't explain anything. The only things she "admitted were that she lied about falling asleep and that it "felt" like he was coming on to her. She said she could see why i was suspicious of her message, but that i was wrong.
Part of me really trusts her and knows that she isn't a sneaky or mean person.
Part of me thinks that would be willing to make a totally blatant lie if it meant me not breaking up with her. She's had a really unstable and unfortunate upbringing, and now that she's an adult, she has a intense need for a stable relationship.
I feel like no rational person could have read the original message and her following excuse, and then believed her. She said things like:
[her] "After sleeping on it, i am regretting what happened, we shouldn't have done that. I didn't explain the situation with my boyfriend to you"
[him] "I don't have any regrets if it makes you feel any better. Friends?"
I plan on confronting her again, although i should have been more prepared for her denying it the first time. I just wasn't expecting it.
Alternatively, i could contact the guy and just ask him. Even though i've never even met him, he might be more honest with me if i was straight-up with him.
 
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cheat on her with her best friend.
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confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else
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Yep, just end it. Its idiotic to stay with a girl you dont trust + flirts with other people.
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On January 12 2010 15:57 CoOl]1st[ wrote:
cheat on her with her best friend.
Cheat on her with her mom!
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On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else
creep on her dude no ones gonna tell you that shit if you think you deserve to know then try to find out you don't wanna get married to someone and then find out they are a cheater. you can't find out if you never try to. live like you've got nothing to hide from your love and lots to hide from the government.
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End it. There is no question imo. Just end it.
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On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else
Well I have trusted her up until about a week ago.
Asking her what she thinks I should do is good. That will at least make her squirm.
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similar thing happened to me... I didn't end it there but it really was the beginning of the end in retrospect. it's a really really bad sign.
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On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum?
And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch.
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Eh... end it. She's not worth the trouble
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On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook
I agree. The only advice I'll offer is to not let her find out you've been looking at her private messages. If word spreads that you did that, kiss your reputation good-bye.
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On January 12 2010 16:08 LxRogue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else Well I have trusted her up until about a week ago. Asking her what she thinks I should do is good. That will at least make her squirm.
Don't painfully drag out the inevitable, dude. Stick up for yourself and stop being a cuckold.
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Give us her facebook details. We'll make an assessment.
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On January 12 2010 16:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:08 LxRogue wrote:On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else Well I have trusted her up until about a week ago. Asking her what she thinks I should do is good. That will at least make her squirm. Don't painfully drag out the inevitable, dude. Stick up for yourself and stop being a cuckold.
For sure. End it.
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On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch.
one of the best replies ever imho.
+ Show Spoiler +and best done when you're also innocent of similar charges =p
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I have zero misgivings about ending it, but i'm not gonna do anything involving her details on the internet. THAT would ruin my reputation.
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On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else
Obviously he can't trust her if she goes to parties and makes out with random guys....
I say to give her an ultimatum, if she still truly likes you, maybe she will change, if not, then it is a good thing that your relationship would end as soon as possible.
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end it she abused your trust and the relationship
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On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else
I think it was a good idea to creep her facebook and kinda bm to say OP is retarded....and yeah you SHOULD trust a 2+ year gf but not when she has cheated on him in the past and started acting suspicous after passing out drunk at a party. I really hate bitches like this but i love how you can discover the true intentions of any person by logging into their facebook account lolz
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yeah don't say you were on her FB just say you heard about her hooking up with some guy
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if you KNOW she cheated, then why the hell give her an ultimatum?? plus, its the 2nd time ://///
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I have to agree with everyone. End it and move on. You'll thank yourself years from now when you think back on it.
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On January 12 2010 16:14 JFKWT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. one of the best replies ever imho. + Show Spoiler +and best done when you're also innocent of similar charges =p
LOLOL
but yea..
drop her dude
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The real question is whether you love one another. If you do then I've seen worse...
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On January 12 2010 16:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:
confront her. see what she wants. then decide what you want.
edit: also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook, if shes been ur gf for 2+ years you should trust her, sounds kind of dumb since she really is fooling around with someone else creep on her dude no ones gonna tell you that shit if you think you deserve to know then try to find out you don't wanna get married to someone and then find out they are a cheater. you can't find out if you never try to. live like you've got nothing to hide from your love and lots to hide from the government.
lol woah, slow down, marrige? hahaha im just saying in general, you really really shouldn't invade someones privacy, and it was even more fucked up since she was a girlfriend of 2 years. He already knew about this guy and had all the hints in the world something fucked was going on. But i've been in a similar situation, and all im saying is if you are wrong and she finds out, say goodbye to your relationship as it was
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loool why should he trust her she has done this before.
end it.
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u'r a rogue, just backstab her.
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Trust me when I say this, it's not cool to be cheated on, but if it happens, you have to first confront her and don't go doing it passively either. If I were you, this is what I would say.
First off I wouldn't even say hi to her, sorry but nobody deserves any respect after cheating like that
"*insert her name here* I heard you did this and that (*name actions here*) with this random person at that party you were at the other day, is this true?" give her 30 seconds to think of a lie...or say the truth w/e "actually I know it's true so don't give me excuses..." "I expect my shit back by let's say tomorrow... you just lost all my respect..."
that's it! by the way, don't give her her shit back until you get yours back. Also, you'll probably feel like shit since you seem to be a lover boy (I know how it is) so have a girl to relieve yourself with (yes a rebound) anyways gl man
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I have a friend who's GF did this same shit. She is going to continue to do it, over, and over, and over again.
Things will be fine for a couple months, but this shit has a way of repeating itself.
If she is too dumb to keep her tongue outside of other guys' mouth she really isn't worth your time IMO.
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End it before she ends it. It would be painful if she did that, wouldn't it? She is not in love with you, which would normally be the basis of a long term relationship. (Do you love her?)
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On January 12 2010 16:11 XinRan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:00 DanceCommander wrote:also, you are retarded for creeping on her facebook I agree. The only advice I'll offer is to not let her find out you've been looking at her private messages. If word spreads that you did that, kiss your reputation good-bye.
This, I agree with. It's wrong to abuse someone's trust and that goes for you at least as much as her. As for the relationship, if each of you is going behind the other's back, probably it's time to end it.
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The question you should be asking is: What would I do..... If I were Dr. Phil....... Well, Dr. Phill would probably, 'she's obviously not serious about this and attempted to hide it behind your back, just end it.'
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On January 12 2010 16:14 JFKWT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. one of the best replies ever imho. + Show Spoiler +and best done when you're also innocent of similar charges =p
buahahahhaha AWESOME!
but yeah dude end it NOW.
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On January 12 2010 16:56 Freaky[x] wrote:
Trust me when I say this, it's not cool to be cheated on, but if it happens, you have to first confront her and don't go doing it passively either. If I were you, this is what I would say.
First off I wouldn't even say hi to her, sorry but nobody deserves any respect after cheating like that
"*insert her name here* I heard you did this and that (*name actions here*) with this random person at that party you were at the other day, is this true?" give her 30 seconds to think of a lie...or say the truth w/e "actually I know it's true so don't give me excuses..." "I expect my shit back by let's say tomorrow... you just lost all my respect..."
that's it! by the way, don't give her her shit back until you get yours back. Also, you'll probably feel like shit since you seem to be a lover boy (I know how it is) so have a girl to relieve yourself with (yes a rebound) anyways gl man
This is the best advice on the thread. Do exactly this IMO.
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Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction.
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Just like 95% of the demographic suggests, I agree - End it.
If you can't trust your partner, and if she breaks your trust and deliberately goes behind your back (via, stopping texting and inboxing), there isn't much foundation on your relationship. Just bullshit a break up or confront her directly about cheating on you, and move on.
On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
I would agree with this - BUT - she clearly is showing A: pattern-like behavior of a lack of faith and B: second thoughts/doubts/etc about the relationship (the inboxes).
It's alright to be generally flirtatious, and mistakes happen in relationships. But pattern-like behavior with little sign of remedy isn't a good thing.
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end that shit yo
Although not always true, I go by the 'once a cheater always a cheater'.
and even if she didn't cheat, I would end it if you feel that uncomfortable about her "friendliness"
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On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Talk to her, and discuss it with her.
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction.
This sort of thing (2nd offence) isn't open for discussion, show her some Jaedong face (passion/rage) and end it. You might get back together again but you have to make a stand and show it's not acceptable, ever. Raging and insulting your cheating gf is human and a natural reaction. Forgive later but at least vent or that shit will poison you.
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Not sure why so many people say he should let her go. If she was drunk (not an excuse but anyway) and made out with a guy, not even having sex, I would forgive her. Especially since she clearly is trying to tell you about it just that she doesnt know how to do it. I think that means she's regretful.
I think she should break up with you though for going through her personal messages. Way worse than making out with some random guy at a party if you ask me.
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Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be.
On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch.
Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO.
Drop the bitch.
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On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction.
Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common.
"It just happens."
Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens."
It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest.
This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all.
"Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction."
Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more.
Allow me to reiterate:
This is her second offense and she's been lying to you.
Drop the bitch.
If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway.
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End it!! Such relationship is not worth dragging.
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Next time you bang her, spit on her after and then leave. No explanation, then don't ever talk to her again
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On January 12 2010 17:48 TimmyMac wrote:
Next time you bang her, spit on her after and then leave. No explanation, then don't ever talk to her again
man you're hardcore
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On January 12 2010 17:50 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 17:48 TimmyMac wrote:
Next time you bang her, spit on her after and then leave. No explanation, then don't ever talk to her again man you're hardcore
that or just cheat on her and make sure she finds out. like fuckin tape it and give it to her for her bday
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Forget about it. Making out with a few boys is hardly the end of the world.
If she was my girlfriend, I would ask her questions like how was it?
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On January 12 2010 18:05 GeneralStan wrote:
Forget about it. Making out with a few boys is hardly the end of the world.
If she was my girlfriend, I would ask her questions like how was it?
this.
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On January 12 2010 18:00 UGC4 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 17:50 Grobyc wrote:On January 12 2010 17:48 TimmyMac wrote:
Next time you bang her, spit on her after and then leave. No explanation, then don't ever talk to her again man you're hardcore that or just cheat on her and make sure she finds out. like fuckin tape it and give it to her for her bday
Cheat on her with the guy she cheated on you with.
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this one is easy man. its college and she sounds like an outgoing flirt. this means shes gonna get drunk and prolly make out with random guys if you arent there. pretty standard stuff. girls do it, guys do it...its college!!! youre there to start off your adult life with a big bang!!!
you say youve been with this girl for two years. thats means its either serious or a comfort thing. either way i suggest you bring it up like a man. you owe that to her for all the sexy time she dished out. dont just dump the bitch and bounce w/o a reason. thats definitely the worst way to handle things. just tell her that you know she cheated because you saw her fucking facebook. no other girls are gonna give a shit that you checked out your g/f's facebook and found out she was cheating. girls do it WAY more then guys and its no biggie so dont get all worked up about them judging you over it. if you absolutely have to, just say you turned ur shit on and accidentally logged onto her shit. im sure you can think of something...its not that hard. if you need ideas, shoot me a pm and ill come up with a decent lie lol (ship 5$ on ftp k? rofl nah).
the biggest reason you need to bring it up right off the bat is because you are going to end up spilling those facts later in the argument anyway. shes gonna get frustrated and start yelling at you for dumping her for no reason and you are going to feel the need to justify your actions in the heat of the moment. so its not gonna stay a secret ANYWAY. its not like you can just dump a 2 year g/f in 5 mins. theres crying and pleading and/or anger and resentment...either way you are gonna crack and spew your true motivational factors.
if you are REALLY sore about it, talk to her about it and let her cry and apologize and shit and 'forgive her'. she will prolly try extra hard in the sack for a few weeks (start asking for road head n shit) and you can just start looking for action on the side. once youve found another ship to jump to, give her an innocent final boot and continue ballin in college. which btw, worst thing you can do is be in a serious relationship in college. i turned down SO much fucking action because i was in a long term gig that turned out to be busto. i regret not cheating like a mfer on that girl after all was said and done. but fuck, i was such a nice guy back then  .
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If you really think you love her:
+ Show Spoiler +END IT it will hurt but not as much as you find out ppl are laughing behind your back for duration of she cheating on you and you turning blind eye
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Have some fucking self respect dude.
This girl has cheated on you. You have forgiven her.
You expressed that you are uncomfortable with her texting of her ex-boyfriend (DUH, WHAT THE FUCK?) so she goes around and changes the method of communicating to him so she can sleep at night WHILE still deceiving you.
You find out she lied about cheating on you again but the lie is a semi-admittance to a problem so yet again she can sleep at night.
She has absolutely no respect for you. I know this is odd coming from a person you've never met who has simply read your blog but pretend for a second that human beings all have fairly similar experiences OR CAN experience fairly similar things.. in fact some have experienced more and have wisdom to pass on: dump her asap.
And I don't mean "hey, yeah sorry, I think we should break it off." I'm talking a "Hey, I'm coming over. Yeah it'll only be a minute." *Click* then you stone cold stare her in the face with a half smile and tell her it is over. When she trembles and asks why you snort and say, who the fuck do you think I am?
Make it burn so that maybe she can learn that in the future being a two-timing lying bitch with 0 respect but all the spineless ability to drag someone through shit doesn't pay off.
If you can't do it give me her number and I will do it for you. I have no problem telling a girl like that off.
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On January 12 2010 18:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Have some fucking self respect dude.
This girl has cheated on you. You have forgiven her.
You expressed that you are uncomfortable with her texting of her ex-boyfriend (DUH, WHAT THE FUCK?) so she goes around and changes the method of communicating to him so she can sleep at night WHILE still deceiving you.
You find out she lied about cheating on you again but the lie is a semi-admittance to a problem so yet again she can sleep at night.
She has absolutely no respect for you. I know this is odd coming from a person you've never met who has simply read your blog but pretend for a second that human beings all have fairly similar experiences OR CAN experience fairly similar things.. in fact some have experienced more and have wisdom to pass on: dump her asap.
And I don't mean "hey, yeah sorry, I think we should break it off." I'm talking a "Hey, I'm coming over. Yeah it'll only be a minute." *Click* then you stone cold stare her in the face with a half smile and tell her it is over. When she trembles and asks why you snort and say, who the fuck do you think I am?
Make it burn so that maybe she can learn that in the future being a two-timing lying bitch with 0 respect but all the spineless ability to drag someone through shit doesn't pay off.
If you can't do it give me her number and I will do it for you. I have no problem telling a girl like that off.
this is the most motivating post ive ever seen... and I agree full heartedly you gave her multiple chances and she is and has walked all over your kind heart, you have to show her that her actions have consequences whether she likes the outcome or not. No one should have to live worrying whether or not your partner will be faithful or not you shouldn't have to act as her keeper just to keep your mind at ease, and going behind your back on an issue you were respectful enough to bring up and tell her in a mannered way that it bugged you a bit is too underhanded to "Forgive and forget" that's like saying "oh shit sorry i fucked your brother but its ok I thought it was you" it just doesn't work out.
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On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
So I guess I'm making a notorious TL girl problem thread...
I've got a girlfriend of 2+ years who i go to university with and it's been mostly pretty good. One thing about her - she extremely friendly. Borderline flirtatious with just about any male she meets, even if she doesn't do it consciously.
I stopped reading here. There are very few women who don't do just about everything on purpose, yours obviously isn't one of those. I hope next time you remember this.
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On January 12 2010 19:22 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
So I guess I'm making a notorious TL girl problem thread...
I've got a girlfriend of 2+ years who i go to university with and it's been mostly pretty good. One thing about her - she extremely friendly. Borderline flirtatious with just about any male she meets, even if she doesn't do it consciously.
I stopped reading here. There are very few women who don't do just about everything on purpose, yours obviously isn't one of those. I hope next time you remember this.
im pretty sure if you uhh read the whole thread OP you would change your opinion quite a bit . . .
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whatever you do, don't marry her.
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Why are you still with her?
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End it.
She may even consciously want to be with you, and the logical thing would be to stay with you or whatever, but she's obviously attracted to other people too much, and she'll keep doing it.
Best case scenario: You end it now
worst case scenario: you end it after 5 years of marriage.
People don't change fast when it comes to these things, nor can they DECIDE to be 'good'.
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Hint: This should be you right now.
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On January 12 2010 19:34 Sad[Panda] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 19:22 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
So I guess I'm making a notorious TL girl problem thread...
I've got a girlfriend of 2+ years who i go to university with and it's been mostly pretty good. One thing about her - she extremely friendly. Borderline flirtatious with just about any male she meets, even if she doesn't do it consciously.
I stopped reading here. There are very few women who don't do just about everything on purpose, yours obviously isn't one of those. I hope next time you remember this. im pretty sure if you uhh read the whole thread OP you would change your opinion quite a bit . . .
I actually did. And it didn't change my opinion, why should it?
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Tell her 1a2a3a and then leave.
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you are only 21, dump her if she is making out with some other guys yo, have some pride
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If I were in your position, I would end it.
I will never ever go for a crappy relationship again. That's what I have learned 
Sure it hurts first, but eventually you will be so much happier.
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i swear i saw this thread in my dream. dejavu ftw
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The sooner you end it, the better. If it were her first time making out with some random while drunk, fuck it and forget about it. Everyone makes mistakes. Who hasn't done something completely fucking retarded while hammered? But it's her second time, and she WON'T change.
End it.
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On January 12 2010 20:18 ThunderGod wrote:Hint: This should be you right now.
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I raise you this
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bang her get your shit and then leave rofl
seriously gotta cut ties though
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lol, this is the shittiest situation for any fucking human being, disregarding any circumstance. ditch her.
she's the shittiest person on the planet from my point of view, hooking up twice with some other guy, it doesn't matter how pretty she is, or what ever bond that kept you together from the past time you caught her cheating.
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On January 12 2010 18:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Have some fucking self respect dude.
This girl has cheated on you. You have forgiven her.
You expressed that you are uncomfortable with her texting of her ex-boyfriend (DUH, WHAT THE FUCK?) so she goes around and changes the method of communicating to him so she can sleep at night WHILE still deceiving you.
You find out she lied about cheating on you again but the lie is a semi-admittance to a problem so yet again she can sleep at night.
She has absolutely no respect for you. I know this is odd coming from a person you've never met who has simply read your blog but pretend for a second that human beings all have fairly similar experiences OR CAN experience fairly similar things.. in fact some have experienced more and have wisdom to pass on: dump her asap.
And I don't mean "hey, yeah sorry, I think we should break it off." I'm talking a "Hey, I'm coming over. Yeah it'll only be a minute." *Click* then you stone cold stare her in the face with a half smile and tell her it is over. When she trembles and asks why you snort and say, who the fuck do you think I am?
Make it burn so that maybe she can learn that in the future being a two-timing lying bitch with 0 respect but all the spineless ability to drag someone through shit doesn't pay off.
If you can't do it give me her number and I will do it for you. I have no problem telling a girl like that off.
This.
And...
On January 12 2010 19:22 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
So I guess I'm making a notorious TL girl problem thread...
I've got a girlfriend of 2+ years who i go to university with and it's been mostly pretty good. One thing about her - she extremely friendly. Borderline flirtatious with just about any male she meets, even if she doesn't do it consciously.
I stopped reading here. There are very few women who don't do just about everything on purpose, yours obviously isn't one of those. I hope next time you remember this.
This. (too many negatives though; took me a few reads to figure out what you were saying )
People don't flirt "subconsciously": either they like the guy/girl in that way and flirt, or they don't and don't flirt.
Thinking about it like that, you'd kind of have to expect she'd cheat on you eventually, anyway.
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On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway.
It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other.
You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her.
If I was OP I would slap you in the face.
Judgemental douche.
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On January 12 2010 23:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway. It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other. You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her. If I was OP I would slap you in the face. Judgemental douche.
everything you said was just irrational, love is irrational; it's fear of never finding happiness and looking else where (in another human being) it's for the week, imo.
Every human being desires happiness. this guy needs to ditch this bitch.
oh, btw she is a bitch and every negative word that can describe a bitch in this situation.
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On January 13 2010 00:00 Revolt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 23:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway. It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other. You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her. If I was OP I would slap you in the face. Judgemental douche. everything you said was just irrational, love is irrational; it's fear of never finding happiness and looking else where (in another human being) it's for the week, imo. Every human being desires happiness. this guy needs to ditch this bitch. oh, btw she is a bitch and every negative word that can describe a bitch in this situation.
Buy a brain or something equivalent.
I don't like to quote the Bible but there is a good sentence:
"Let thoses who have never sinned throw the first stone".
I hope you guys are very clean, like, really, really, really clean to speak the way you do.
Incontrol talked about self respect. Self respect is not letting random fucks talk shit about your girlfriend. Whatever she did. That's self respect.
Geez.
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she also must be pretty dumb for having her facebook login saved on your comp while betraying you : (
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I love you Biff.
Don't forget people, he didn't just look on her facebook page. He logged into her private account!
Thats as bad as reading someone's diary in my opinion. A far worse breach of trust than a drunk makeout.
It seems that your relationship is not on very stable ground considering she is cheating on you and you don't trust her a lick or respect her privacy at all. So you should probably end it, but get off your high horse.
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On January 13 2010 01:01 Zortch wrote:
I love you Biff.
Don't forget people, he didn't just look on her facebook page. He logged into her private account!
Thats as bad as reading someone's diary in my opinion. A far worse breach of trust than a drunk makeout.
It seems that your relationship is not on very stable ground considering she is cheating on you and you don't trust her a lick or respect her privacy at all. So you should probably end it, but get off your high horse.
:-)
Or maybe they need to have a good, long, painful talk and see what they both think and feel. That's the hardest and the most painful way, but that's the only fair one.
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well, Biff might be right. good luck with that Lx
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On January 13 2010 01:18 randomProtoss wrote:
First of all, you must know that she doesn't respect you, and you can't build a lasting relationship without that. She may like you, but she definitely doesn't respect you.
You know her very well, and you know exactly the situation, don't you?
I've betrayed a girl in the past, and I have regretted. And I respected her, hugely. And she forgave me, and I have been incredibly grateful for that.
You don't know anything about this guy, about this girl, about their couple, about their feeling, about their story and about this stupid non-event.. Anything. So stop thinking you are a very smart psychologist. Stop judging. Just for a minute or so.
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On January 13 2010 00:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 00:00 Revolt wrote:On January 12 2010 23:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway. It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other. You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her. If I was OP I would slap you in the face. Judgemental douche. everything you said was just irrational, love is irrational; it's fear of never finding happiness and looking else where (in another human being) it's for the week, imo. Every human being desires happiness. this guy needs to ditch this bitch. oh, btw she is a bitch and every negative word that can describe a bitch in this situation. Buy a brain or something equivalent. I don't like to quote the Bible but there is a good sentence: "Let thoses who have never sinned throw the first stone". I hope you guys are very clean, like, really, really, really clean to speak the way you do. Incontrol talked about self respect. Self respect is not letting random fucks talk shit about your girlfriend. Whatever she did. That's self respect. Geez.
Oh look its captain save-a-hoe
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On January 13 2010 02:11 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 00:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 13 2010 00:00 Revolt wrote:On January 12 2010 23:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway. It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other. You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her. If I was OP I would slap you in the face. Judgemental douche. everything you said was just irrational, love is irrational; it's fear of never finding happiness and looking else where (in another human being) it's for the week, imo. Every human being desires happiness. this guy needs to ditch this bitch. oh, btw she is a bitch and every negative word that can describe a bitch in this situation. Buy a brain or something equivalent. I don't like to quote the Bible but there is a good sentence: "Let thoses who have never sinned throw the first stone". I hope you guys are very clean, like, really, really, really clean to speak the way you do. Incontrol talked about self respect. Self respect is not letting random fucks talk shit about your girlfriend. Whatever she did. That's self respect. Geez. Oh look its captain save-a-hoe
Very cool, "sadist".
Anything else?
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On January 13 2010 02:11 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 00:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 13 2010 00:00 Revolt wrote:On January 12 2010 23:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 12 2010 17:39 Marimokkori wrote:Fuck an ultimatum. If this is the second offense you seriously need to get out now, and get out fast. The longer you stay with her the harder it will be. On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch. Agreed. Target everything. You don't need her anywhere in your life. Destroy all possible contact, IMO. Drop the bitch. Edit after reading more replies: On January 12 2010 17:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Don't be stupid, and don't listen stupid people.
Talk to her, and discuss it with her. Don't rage, don't feel humiliated. It just happens.
Everybody can make mistakes, believe me I know what I am talking about, and I am so thankful to my girlfriend that she forgave me. It just needs to be discussed.
And the "best advice" is not a good a advice. What will you earn in your life by saying someone you have loved for two years that she doesn't deserve any respect? Fucking hell people are so silly. Who on earth has never done a shit like that?
Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction. Sorry if I offend you, but this really aggravates me. This viewpoint of cheating being mildly acceptable is part of why it seems so common. "It just happens." Did you read the op? This did not just happen. This is her SECOND offense! Cheating NEVER "just happens." It's sounds to me like you know what it's like to be the one doing the cheating and can therefore sympathize with his girlfriend who obviously treats him like trash. I think you need a morality check, to be honest. This kind of shit is not OK, should not be so easily forgiven, if forgiven at all. "Forgiving is not a weakness. Shutting your mouth is, but forgiving is what people who have a brain and a heart can do. Raging and insulting your gf is just stupid dumbfuck reaction." Having the capacity to forgive is important. So is having the ability to tell people who walk on you and use you to fuck off. Cheating is a stupid dumbfuck thing to do and not raging about it will only allow her to walk on you more. Allow me to reiterate: This is her second offense and she's been lying to you. Drop the bitch. If you really want to give her an ultimatum, demand a threesome with another girl, then leave her anyway. It does just happen. It did happen to me to fall in love with someone else and to forget everything. If it can't happen to you, good for you. It does happen to lot of people, sometimes amazing persons. Two of my best friends are a couple, and the girl cheated three time at the guy. And everytime he got hurt, and everytime it was a big shit. But they are still together and they are amazing. And they love each other. You don't know the girl. You don't fucking have any fucking right to call her a bitch. And you don't have to judge her. If I was OP I would slap you in the face. Judgemental douche. everything you said was just irrational, love is irrational; it's fear of never finding happiness and looking else where (in another human being) it's for the week, imo. Every human being desires happiness. this guy needs to ditch this bitch. oh, btw she is a bitch and every negative word that can describe a bitch in this situation. Buy a brain or something equivalent. I don't like to quote the Bible but there is a good sentence: "Let thoses who have never sinned throw the first stone". I hope you guys are very clean, like, really, really, really clean to speak the way you do. Incontrol talked about self respect. Self respect is not letting random fucks talk shit about your girlfriend. Whatever she did. That's self respect. Geez. Oh look its captain save-a-hoe
The level of maturity in this thread (barring a few, select posters) is amazing.
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to give credit to the heartwrenching situations of biff and zortch you could ask her flat out if she would regret it if you ended the relationship because you are thinking along those lines. and if she isn't clear about it or doesn't sound convincing.. well..
you have to ask yourself the question if there are reasons for her acting that way. if your relationship may have not been as exciting as it used to be (apart from the normal way things go) and if you can change this somehow. it's bad to be in a spot where you have to ask yourself if you can't offer her what she needs so she looks for it elsewhere. it may be the case, or it's that she just has little self-control and easily falls for momentary attractions.
the hard thing is: no one here can really judge this 100%. there is sound advice and the most secure thing for not being hurt in the future / investing in a relationship which is already in an unhealthy state is just putting an end to it. if someone cheats on the tsl ladder the popular opinion goes towards: ban him immediately whatever his reasons were. if you think the relationship / girl is worth it you can make clear how angry you are and that this is an absolute no go, but at the same time trying to find out if there are any valid reasons (too little attention, too little excitement, arousal, whatev) she could give or problems she sees so that she lowers herself to such a behaviour.
it's up to youuuuuuuuu
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I'm usually for trying to make relationships work, but I'm definitely against cheating. Whether she tells you or not, if it's recurring, then there isn't much you can do, imo. You deserve better dude.
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On January 13 2010 02:52 Always wrote:
I'm usually for trying to make relationships work, but I'm definitely against cheating. Whether she tells you or not, if it's recurring, then there isn't much you can do, imo. You deserve better dude.
Everybody is against cheating. The question is wether your pride go above everything and you throw your girlfriend like a piece of shit because you "worth better", or you actually talk with her, confront her calmly, and try to understand what happened and how she lived the whole thing. And then make a decision, obviously. Maybe it's better to end up the relationship, maybe it worth to forgive and carry on. But you don't act with your hurted masculin little prise. You act with your heart and your brain.
A relationship is based on confidence. Confidence deosn't mean not doing mistakes, even several time. Confidence mean that you do things together. Confidence means that you talk about what is wrong. Even if it's very wrong.
If the guy break up brutally, without discussing, without trying to understand, it's not her who didn't deserve him. It's him who didn't deserve her.
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On January 13 2010 03:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 02:52 Always wrote:
I'm usually for trying to make relationships work, but I'm definitely against cheating. Whether she tells you or not, if it's recurring, then there isn't much you can do, imo. You deserve better dude. Everybody is against cheating. The question is wether your pride go above everything and you throw your girlfriend like a piece of shit because you "worth better", or you actually talk with her, confront her calmly, and try to understand what happened and how she lived the whole thing. And then make a decision, obviously. Maybe it's better to end up the relationship, maybe it worth to forgive and carry on. But you don't act with your hurted masculin little prise. You act with your heart and your brain. A relationship is based on confidence. Confidence deosn't mean not doing mistakes, even several time. Confidence mean that you do things together. Confidence means that you talk about what is wrong. Even if it's very wrong. If the guy break up brutally, without discussing, without trying to understand, it's not her who didn't deserve him. It's him who didn't deserve her.
Biff, what your saying would have some merit based on the notion that she actually admitted what she did instead of the OP having to find out for himself. Sure it was pretty sneaky to check her facebook inbox and chat logs to see what was going on but that was because he was already suspecting her cheating.
Just because you have been in a similar situation where you cheated and the girl forgave you does not give you the right to say that cheating is something that just happens and doesn't mean anything. When you are in a commited relationship and you break that commitment you deserved to be dumped. If the other person is trusting enough and kind enough they could take you back and give you another chance but as they say you can only forgive and never forget.
You also may have admitted that you actually did cheat which makes you just an ounce better than this girl who probably will never admit to doing any of the said activities unless I have missed anything skimming this thread. The OP is going to have to acutally confront her to get a confession about something that she did that was wrong. These two should decide for themselves if they want to be together but the right thing to do would be to dump this girl because what she did was clearly wrong.
If I were the OP I would talk to the girl and see what she has to say about the whole situation. Based off the information provided in the OP and the fact that she has already done this once before I think a major dumping would be in order unless she managed to slip up more than one time especially when the OP expressed his concern about her talking to other guys.
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On January 13 2010 03:14 kidd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 03:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 13 2010 02:52 Always wrote:
I'm usually for trying to make relationships work, but I'm definitely against cheating. Whether she tells you or not, if it's recurring, then there isn't much you can do, imo. You deserve better dude. Everybody is against cheating. The question is wether your pride go above everything and you throw your girlfriend like a piece of shit because you "worth better", or you actually talk with her, confront her calmly, and try to understand what happened and how she lived the whole thing. And then make a decision, obviously. Maybe it's better to end up the relationship, maybe it worth to forgive and carry on. But you don't act with your hurted masculin little prise. You act with your heart and your brain. A relationship is based on confidence. Confidence deosn't mean not doing mistakes, even several time. Confidence mean that you do things together. Confidence means that you talk about what is wrong. Even if it's very wrong. If the guy break up brutally, without discussing, without trying to understand, it's not her who didn't deserve him. It's him who didn't deserve her. Biff, what your saying would have some merit based on the notion that she actually admitted what she did instead of the OP having to find out for himself. Sure it was pretty sneaky to check her facebook inbox and chat logs to see what was going on but that was because he was already suspecting her cheating. Just because you have been in a similar situation where you cheated and the girl forgave you does not give you the right to say that cheating is something that just happens and doesn't mean anything. When you are in a commited relationship and you break that commitment you deserved to be dumped. If the other person is trusting enough and kind enough they could take you back and give you another chance but as they say you can only forgive and never forget. You also may have admitted that you actually did cheat which makes you just an ounce better than this girl who probably will never admit to doing any of the said activities unless I have missed anything skimming this thread. The OP is going to have to acutally confront her to get a confession about something that she did that was wrong. These two should decide for themselves if they want to be together but the right thing to do would be to dump this girl because what she did was clearly wrong. If I were the OP I would talk to the girl and see what she has to say about the whole situation. Based off the information provided in the OP and the fact that she has already done this once before I think a major dumping would be in order unless she managed to slip up more than one time especially when the OP expressed his concern about her talking to other guys.
I never said cheating was acceptable. And I don't say it doesn't mean anything.
I say that
1) Nobody here knows anyhting at all about the whole story. Nobody know them. Nobody know their story. Nobody, including the OP know what exactly happens. And people think they are smart calling her a bitch and saying that OP should dump her and be very angry. So my point is: people should be a little humble, and stop being fucking stupid.
2) When you are in a relationship, you have to talk. Especially if bad things happen. Then you decide. That's where confidence is involved. I don't say OP should forgive blindly. I say that he has to talk with her, confront her, and then decide calmly if it worths continuing. The right thing is to do what he think is right. And that's not some excited nerd talking about his self respect on a video game website who will tell him if his love story worths forgiving this betrayal.
And I am angry at judgemental people. That just pisses me of. Because if we had to be judged this way, by random people who don't know us, I don't think anybody here would go out white as snow.
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nah sometimes you don't really talk. Sometimes people do irreversible things and they should be tossed for it. If they were married obviously a talk before making decisions is a good call. But they aren't. Unfortunately they've been together a long time so that hurts but not half as bad as it would to somehow look passed the fact she has cheated 2x, lied about it and continued to disrespect him by communicating with an ex non-stop.
You can try and play devil's advocate as much as you like biff. People are calling her a bitch because cheating and lying are the trademarks of a bitch. Being mad and dumping bitches is what we do.
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I'm also not saying that it's right for all the people calling her a bitch but what she is doing is obviously very disrespectful to her bf. The same applies to you. When you are in a relationship you commit to that person. That means you create an unspoken bond that you will respect when you are with that person.
If you feel like you can break that and just do whatever you want regardless od the reason or the situation then that just makes you look like a disrepsectful idiot hence the people calling her a bitch. There is no excuse for cheating of any kind and the only way to resolve the matter is for them to talk to each other which I agree with you.
But if I were in the same situation there would be no discussion. I would simply tell the other person how I felt and that I have confidence in myself to be able to move on to find someone out there who will respect the commitment of a relationship like I would.
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On January 13 2010 03:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nah sometimes you don't really talk. Sometimes people do irreversible things and they should be tossed for it. If they were married obviously a talk before making decisions is a good call. But they aren't. Unfortunately they've been together a long time so that hurts but not half as bad as it would to somehow look passed the fact she has cheated 2x, lied about it and continued to disrespect him by communicating with an ex non-stop.
You can try and play devil's advocate as much as you like biff. People are calling her a bitch because cheating and lying are the trademarks of a bitch. Being mad and dumping bitches is what we do.
Jesus, sometimes I hate reading these threads because I'm such an extremist about morality and it makes me feel over-serious and too uptight. I would dump a girl for ONLY communicating with her ex, and not stopping. The cheating on top of that.. just.. blows my mind.
I also don't really know where to start with Biff, but I would like to say that your friend who has a girlfriend with three previous areas of cheating, is an idiot. That or he has absolutely zero self-esteem. Oh, but I'm sure they are amazing and love each other! HAHAH you're hilarious.
edit: Also didn't know that coming to a conclusion based off of facts is being "judgmental".
Maybe if the OP had been MUCH more vague you could get away with that. However, I see, texting ex, says will stop, lies completely and goes to alternate method of talking to ex, has cheated previously, JUST cheated again, etc, etc. How can you say that calling this person a "bitch", would be judgmental?
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I'm pretty old school about that stuff too. I would have a serious issue with that.. not insta-dump but it'd be a problem until it was fixed. If she didn't insta-respect that it would be dump time yes. And I agree, I think we are far more hardcore on that than the typical tl.net poster which makes threads like this difficult hah.
But yeah I couldn't fathom being cheated on and still being with that girl  Let alone a 2nd time + her lying about it.
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Biff your advice really only works between two mature adults, who are married or otherwise engaged in a cemented long-term relationship.
The OP & his girlfriend are just dating, and they are probably two teenagers, complete with raging hormones.
to the OP: yes you should confront her directly. Give her a chance to own up to it, and/or apologize. If she fails to do either, end it right there. IF she does both, then be wary, because she'll probably do it again unless you're some kind of amazing unique person (no offense). If you find out she's doing it again, then for christ's sake DTMFA
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Something people like you need to learn is that if you don't trust your partner, it's already over.
It's really that simple. Her cheating on you is bad, but the core reason you should end it is because you don't trust her. You should have ended it when you felt the need to go snooping on her account, not after you'd done it (because that's pretty fucked up too).
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On January 13 2010 07:41 BlasiuS wrote:
Biff your advice really only works between two mature adults, who are married or otherwise engaged in a cemented long-term relationship.
The OP & his girlfriend are just dating, and they are probably two teenagers, complete with raging hormones.
to the OP: yes you should confront her directly. Give her a chance to own up to it, and/or apologize. If she fails to do either, end it right there. IF she does both, then be wary, because she'll probably do it again unless you're some kind of amazing unique person (no offense). If you find out she's doing it again, then for christ's sake DTMFA
I don't know, they have been together for two years, you know... I am with my girlfriend since a year and it's not random dating. And I'm not that old.
I hope OP manage to deal with that a good way.
Don't be too harsh on people, guys. That's all I have to say. Sometimes life is a bitch, and it's hard to deal with some stuff. Including fidelity. That doesn't make one a bitch or a bad person, nor a relationship valueless.
Anyway. Good luck to you OP.
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On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch.
QFT
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She is a bitch. She will do it again. She will find that you are weak to X or Y and use that against you. You can forgive her all you want, but she's only gonna find a way to keep you AND guy number 2342565 because she wants all the attention she can get. Best of both worlds.
Dump her. No one in the world deserves to be cheated on TWICE.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"
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On January 13 2010 08:51 Chef wrote:
Something people like you need to learn is that if you don't trust your partner, it's already over.
It's really that simple. Her cheating on you is bad, but the core reason you should end it is because you don't trust her. You should have ended it when you felt the need to go snooping on her account, not after you'd done it (because that's pretty fucked up too).
This. You've already told her that you don't like it when she texts her ex. A typical remorseful person would realize "oh, this might hurt my boyfriend" and stop, or at least cut down. Instead, she takes it in stride and finds a loophole in your request, stopping the texting, but transitioning to facebook messaging.
She's hiding things from you, you suspect something's up and have to snoop to find it, and you find that she actually has fooled around. Regardless of who is at fault, it's pretty clear that you guys aren't working out so well. End it now instead of later, when shit really hits the fan. You can get a head start on mending your heart and she can go do what she wants without feeling locked in by a relationship (even if it's only a relationship by name).
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On January 13 2010 10:35 lilsusie wrote:
She is a bitch. She will do it again. She will find that you are weak to X or Y and use that against you. You can forgive her all you want, but she's only gonna find a way to keep you AND guy number 2342565 because she wants all the attention she can get. Best of both worlds.
Dump her. No one in the world deserves to be cheated on TWICE.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"
Straight from the female source!
my 2cents: Although, I think it depends on what you want from the relationship. If you do in fact want a long term relationship with emotional bonding and such, then she isn't for you.
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On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
A couple of months ago, she started talking again with her last boyfriend who during the course of our relationship, she had never spoken to. They talked on the phone, but mostly just texted - texted like 2 kids in junior high just starting puberty.
Sorry man, she knew the ship was going down and was making sure she had a lifeboat.
I don't see what the big deal with checking someone else's facebook is. I wouldn't let just anyone go on it, but my last girlfriend went on mine all the time (I didn't tell her the password, just let her use my computer). I even had her sending emails for me if I was feeling lazy... why would you mind if a trusted friend read them if you have nothing to hide?
edit: also "words are a waste of time. Destruction is a language everyone understands." what an awesome quote haha
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You clearly don't trust her. Therefore, regardless of whether you still want a relationship with her still or not, it will not work out like it did.
It's not about her cheating on you. If you trusted that she wouldn't do it again, you would be fine.
Move on.
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bust into her house like 10 years later when she's tucking in her kid (if she has one) and then just cockslap her across the face
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this whole checking facebook thing isn't really an issue...my girlfriend goes on my facebook all the time, and like Starfries said, if I trust my girlfriend then obviously I won't mind her going on my facebook anyways.
The real issue here imo is her cheating on you TWICE. Quite hard to forgive, easier said than done. Although if you actually manage to forgive her, then really, good for you because you have a sympathetic heart. If you don't, then nobody can blame you. It really hurts to be cheated on, and it's apparent that there is no longer trust between you two. So yea, end it dude. It will save you all the headache and pain. It might hurt now, but time will heal you.
Goodluck.
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On January 13 2010 10:35 lilsusie wrote:
She is a bitch. She will do it again. She will find that you are weak to X or Y and use that against you. You can forgive her all you want, but she's only gonna find a way to keep you AND guy number 2342565 because she wants all the attention she can get. Best of both worlds.
Dump her. No one in the world deserves to be cheated on TWICE.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"
I laughed. What do you know about her?
Hope you are as hard with yourself as you are with people you have no clue about.
Ridiculous.
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On January 13 2010 18:06 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 10:35 lilsusie wrote:
She is a bitch. She will do it again. She will find that you are weak to X or Y and use that against you. You can forgive her all you want, but she's only gonna find a way to keep you AND guy number 2342565 because she wants all the attention she can get. Best of both worlds.
Dump her. No one in the world deserves to be cheated on TWICE.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" I laughed. What do you know about her? Hope you are as hard with yourself as you are with people you have no clue about. Ridiculous.
You don't need to be perfect yourself to judge.
I can tell a pro messed up his micro when he loses eight rins to two lurkers, even though my micro isn't perfect either.
One can tell a girl doesn't deserve respect, at least from her boyfriend, when she cheated not once but twice on this very boyfriend, even though he's not perfect either.
And that is because judging is not about what you can do, but about what you -expect- from someone. In both situations, we expect something. You expect pro to not fuck up their micro, and you expect your girlfriend to be faithful. (Well, at least I hope so)
If your expectations are disappointed, you have every right to negatively judge.
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On January 13 2010 11:37 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
It's not about her cheating on you. If you trusted that she wouldn't do it again, you would be fine.
and totally clueless.
+ Show Spoiler +i think everything has been said, susie is probably in the best position to judge as she knows how girls feel / think, so.. nuff said
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Confront her.
End it.
If she's cheated on you twice and lied to you twice, she's not worth it. Trust is the basis of any relationship and she sure hasn't earned yours. You also betrayed hers by reading her facebook inbox and not trusting her, although with good reason.
This relationship is going to fall apart in the near future if you try to keep it alive artificially. Better to forgive and forget and move on. Hopefully you'll find someone who's worth keeping. It can't be that difficult.
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I think there should be a rule that if you ask for girl advice you have to followup on the situation.
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Ehhhh I'm starting to become wary that he went against our advice. I've seen soooo many guys do that (go back to cheaters/liars)
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End it before it happens again!
but before ending it do the job!
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On January 13 2010 23:58 Chill wrote:
I think there should be a rule that if you ask for girl advice you have to followup on the situation.
Yes. also pics.
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Well yeah, but lets go step by step! The followup would be a good start!
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Well i confronted her. First i asked her if the story she had first told me was true, (about her falling asleep for 15 minutes) and she just acted confused and didn't really say anything. Then i eventually told her i had seen the FB messages and that she couldn't be telling the truth. Still, she vaguely denied anything happening that she hadn't told me about.
She "explained" that the guy was confronting her about his own girl problems and she thought it had been awkward, and he didn't want anyone else to know about his emotional problems or whatever. But she had already told me this the first time she called me, so it didn't explain anything. The only things she "admitted were that she lied about falling asleep and that it "felt" like he was coming on to her. She said she could see why i was suspicious of her message, but that i was wrong.
Part of me really trusts her and knows that she isn't a sneaky or mean person.
Part of me thinks that would be willing to make a totally blatant lie if it meant me not breaking up with her. She's had a really unstable and unfortunate upbringing, and now that she's an adult, she has a intense need for a stable relationship.
I feel like no rational person could have read the original message and her following excuse, and then believed her. She said things like:
[her] "After sleeping on it, i am regretting what happened, we shouldn't have done that. I didn't explain the situation with my boyfriend to you"
[him] "I don't have any regrets if it makes you feel any better. Friends?"
I plan on confronting her again, although i should have been more prepared for her denying it the first time. I just wasn't expecting it.
Alternatively, i could contact the guy and just ask him. Even though i've never even met him, he might be more honest with me if i was straight-up with him.
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Dude it is getting really hard to take you seriously.
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On January 12 2010 16:10 seppolevne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 15:53 LxRogue wrote:
Should i just end it? Give her an ultimatum? And target your relationship, her phone number and her facebook login info. Drop the bitch.
This, imo.
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On January 14 2010 10:34 LxRogue wrote:
Well i confronted her. First i asked her if the story she had first told me was true, (about her falling asleep for 15 minutes) and she just acted confused and didn't really say anything. Then i eventually told her i had seen the FB messages and that she couldn't be telling the truth. Still, she vaguely denied anything happening that she hadn't told me about.
She "explained" that the guy was confronting her about his own girl problems and she thought it had been awkward, and he didn't want anyone else to know about his emotional problems or whatever. But she had already told me this the first time she called me, so it didn't explain anything. The only things she "admitted were that she lied about falling asleep and that it "felt" like he was coming on to her. She said she could see why i was suspicious of her message, but that i was wrong.
Part of me really trusts her and knows that she isn't a sneaky or mean person.
Part of me thinks that would be willing to make a totally blatant lie if it meant me not breaking up with her. She's had a really unstable and unfortunate upbringing, and now that she's an adult, she has a intense need for a stable relationship.
I feel like no rational person could have read the original message and her following excuse, and then believed her. She said things like:
[her] "After sleeping on it, i am regretting what happened, we shouldn't have done that. I didn't explain the situation with my boyfriend to you"
[him] "I don't have any regrets if it makes you feel any better. Friends?"
I plan on confronting her again, although i should have been more prepared for her denying it the first time. I just wasn't expecting it.
Alternatively, i could contact the guy and just ask him. Even though i've never even met him, he might be more honest with me if i was straight-up with him.
Everyone uses the excuse "we fell asleep but nothing happened" when something really happened. Also girls are fucking oblivious to guys coming on to them most of the time, so think about it if she FELT someone was coming onto her then he was prolly already on her.
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[her] "After sleeping on it, i am regretting what happened, we shouldn't have done that. I didn't explain the situation with my boyfriend to you"
how can she excuse from that statement. that's just plain ridiculous.
END it.
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On January 14 2010 10:34 LxRogue wrote:
Well i confronted her. First i asked her if the story she had first told me was true, (about her falling asleep for 15 minutes) and she just acted confused and didn't really say anything. Then i eventually told her i had seen the FB messages and that she couldn't be telling the truth. Still, she vaguely denied anything happening that she hadn't told me about.
She "explained" that the guy was confronting her about his own girl problems and she thought it had been awkward, and he didn't want anyone else to know about his emotional problems or whatever. But she had already told me this the first time she called me, so it didn't explain anything. The only things she "admitted were that she lied about falling asleep and that it "felt" like he was coming on to her. She said she could see why i was suspicious of her message, but that i was wrong.
Part of me really trusts her and knows that she isn't a sneaky or mean person.
Part of me thinks that would be willing to make a totally blatant lie if it meant me not breaking up with her. She's had a really unstable and unfortunate upbringing, and now that she's an adult, she has a intense need for a stable relationship.
I feel like no rational person could have read the original message and her following excuse, and then believed her. She said things like:
[her] "After sleeping on it, i am regretting what happened, we shouldn't have done that. I didn't explain the situation with my boyfriend to you"
[him] "I don't have any regrets if it makes you feel any better. Friends?"
I plan on confronting her again, although i should have been more prepared for her denying it the first time. I just wasn't expecting it.
Alternatively, i could contact the guy and just ask him. Even though i've never even met him, he might be more honest with me if i was straight-up with him.
What do you mean you 'trust' her? You went snooping on her facebook. You obviously do not. I know it's a really jive thing to say for every teenager in a relationship (okay you're not a teenager, but you talk like you're in high school) to talk about how much they trust their partner, but actions and feelings speak louder than words. If you trusted her you wouldn't doubt her.
I'm not saying she warrants any trust. She clearly doesn't. You just need to break it off with her. Sure she'll feel bad and miss you, but that'll last a month tops, and you need to learn how to live for yourself. You're not here to rescue her from some 'unfortunate upbringing.' You're here for your own piece of pie. Right now you're chasing a piece of pie that doesn't know what she wants and will sleep with random guys until she finds out and dumps you.
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Still, she vaguely denied anything happening that she hadn't told me about.
She "explained" that the guy was confronting her about his own girl problems and she thought it had been awkward, and he didn't want anyone else to know about his emotional problems or whatever.
She's obviously still lying to you. You obviously don't believe her. Why keep up the charade? Get rid of her.
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this shit is too serious. take some time off and clear your head.
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On January 15 2010 00:42 Chef wrote:
[...] You're not here to rescue her from some 'unfortunate upbringing.' You're here for your own piece of pie. Right now you're chasing a piece of pie that doesn't know what she wants and will sleep with random guys until she finds out and dumps you.
You can't say it any better. Seriously, dump her.
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Heard of sunk costs in economics?
End it.
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gg no re bro
gl with your future girls
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internet wins, sadly or not xD
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I had a similar problem.
I told the guys that kept flirting with her that I would slit their throats and ruin their lives. I even tracked one down and threatened him with a knife.
Now that the story has gone around, everyone thinks that I'm in a Korean gang and that I'm a psychopath.
No guy talks to my girlfriend anymore.
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OP you did the right thing, she was doing it anyway so don't feel bad, enjoy your time being single until you find some better girl and next time maybe you will be luckier.
good job keep on moving!
also, fuck that bitch.
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So turns out she was fucking her ex-boyfriend. How fucking stupid do you have to be to have a long, detailed conversation with him about it open on your computer when i was using it to order her some take out? After she KNEW i snooped her facebook and KNEW i was suspicious.
It's possible she just didn't want to be the one to say it... People can be really strange about these things.
Either way, good for you for finally ending it Thankfully you have awesome Flash vs Jaedong finals to sooth the wounds.
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On January 20 2010 23:36 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +So turns out she was fucking her ex-boyfriend. How fucking stupid do you have to be to have a long, detailed conversation with him about it open on your computer when i was using it to order her some take out? After she KNEW i snooped her facebook and KNEW i was suspicious. It's possible she just didn't want to be the one to say it... People can be really strange about these things. Either way, good for you for finally ending it Thankfully you have awesome Flash vs Jaedong finals to sooth the wounds.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110423
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And that hurts the experience of people who can only watch the VODs anyway how? Unless I'm somehow misinterpreting the situation, the terrible thing about that is that it seems harmful to esports, lots of people won't get to see it live, and the players won't be under as much pressure. Not that we don't get to watch.
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Ok. Just that to me not seeing a big ass crowd at a finals really makes it less awesome.
Anyways, to OP, good for you
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I'm with Chef on this one. I can't watch anything but VOD's, and if they are under less pressure (due to the lack of a visible crowd), it will probably be beneficial to their gameplay.
Unlike other sports, this one cannot be watched directly, you need to watch on a computer screen, meaning it doesn't really matter if the players are playing in vision of the crowd, or not, from the crowd's perspective..... Are they really watching the players, or the game they are playing?
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On January 20 2010 21:28 kOre wrote:I had a similar problem. I told the guys that kept flirting with her that I would slit their throats and ruin their lives. I even tracked one down and threatened him with a knife. Now that the story has gone around, everyone thinks that I'm in a Korean gang and that I'm a psychopath. No guy talks to my girlfriend anymore.
wow you are pathetic, man hahahaha
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On January 20 2010 21:28 kOre wrote:I had a similar problem. I told the guys that kept flirting with her that I would slit their throats and ruin their lives. I even tracked one down and threatened him with a knife. Now that the story has gone around, everyone thinks that I'm in a Korean gang and that I'm a psychopath. No guy talks to my girlfriend anymore.
I'm having trouble deciding if you are more pathetic or disgusting, perhaps a mix of the two?
Hopefully you are merely trolling.
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move on with your life. She aint worth your time
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On January 21 2010 00:20 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
I'm with Chef on this one. I can't watch anything but VOD's, and if they are under less pressure (due to the lack of a visible crowd), it will probably be beneficial to their gameplay.
Unlike other sports, this one cannot be watched directly, you need to watch on a computer screen, meaning it doesn't really matter if the players are playing in vision of the crowd, or not, from the crowd's perspective..... Are they really watching the players, or the game they are playing?
That's not what I said at all! The adrenaline a player gets from being in front of a crowd definitely makes a difference. I only meant it'll still be fun to watch
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Crowds are nice, but they can be very annoying..... If they don't have those distractions, or any crowd reactions which give away a "cheese" play early on (I seem to remember a situation where this happened, but cannot remember the exact game), then their gameplay will probably be improved, and the game will be far more interesting to watch.
And It doesn't matter whether the crowds are there or not, if we're only watching a VOD of it..... I simply added a little extra in my statement.....
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Your update is less than suprising. I think we all knew that she was definitely cheating on your and wasn't afraid of the consequences (even denying she was doing it after the fact). Don't worry though karma will come back and bite her in the ass in the future.
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That really sucks. Good luck dude with your next girlfriend
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Dumb whore indeed.
This thread was a fun read though!
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So turns out she was fucking her ex-boyfriend. How fucking stupid do you have to be to have a long, detailed conversation with him about it open on your computer when i was using it to order her some take out? After she KNEW i snooped her facebook and KNEW i was suspicious.
You got played. She put the convo there on purpose, should have dropped her a long time ago.
It's all good though. At least now you know... A day older a day wiser.
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On January 20 2010 21:28 kOre wrote:I had a similar problem. I told the guys that kept flirting with her that I would slit their throats and ruin their lives. I even tracked one down and threatened him with a knife. Now that the story has gone around, everyone thinks that I'm in a Korean gang and that I'm a psychopath. No guy talks to my girlfriend anymore.
is this supposed to be some kind of joke im not getting or something
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