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MSL Final to be not-quite "live," and fanclub only

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33625 Posts
January 20 2010 13:12 GMT
#1
As someone who has loved MBCGame forever, it pains me to see them fuck up so much lately. Right on the heels of the Flash controversy which infuriated Korean fans greatly (they were greatly insulted, compared to the foreign response), MBCGame has decided to mess with their finals as well.


Sources Daily E-Sports, Fomos via PGR21.com

The finals between Flash and Jaedong that are to be held on the 23rd is booked for the D Auditorium at MBC (MBCGame's mother company, a national TV station). However, the players will not play in front of a live audience. Instead they will be playing from a "Virtual Studio" separated from the crowd, who will be watching via a screen at the auditorium. MBCGame says this is for the benefit of the players, so they will be able to fully concentrate on the game. Also, some fancy shmancy production techniques will probably be used.

The other wrinkle is that the D Auditorium, probably reserved months ahead following some MSL finals with very poor showings, holds only one thousand people. 300 of these seats will be given to the team, friends, and families of the players, leaving 700 for the fans. However, these 700 seats will be given to the player's fan clubs only. As of now, you can only apply for seats through the two players fan clubs.


*Note: It is almost certain MBCGame booked their finals venue FAR before they had any hints at what the final card could be. MBCGame is being silly here, but they're certainly not stupid enough to intentionally hold Jaedong vs Flash at a 1k venue.

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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 13:15:37
January 20 2010 13:15 GMT
#2
I heard that the "Virtual Studio" is known of 3D-technology
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 20 2010 13:15 GMT
#3
Words cannot express my disappointment





okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
January 20 2010 13:15 GMT
#4
Is it April already?
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
January 20 2010 13:16 GMT
#5
wtf? what's the point of going to see them live then if they're going to be in a seperated room...
From a player point of view, awesome. Less nerves if they don't see the massive crowd, but isn't that what makes the finals awesome?
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
January 20 2010 13:16 GMT
#6
.... What to say?

I don't think players will regret playing in front of a huge ammount of people even if it makes them more nervous. The winner will be doubly pleased when he sees all the spectator.

The start of the decline of starcraft 1 this maybe?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
January 20 2010 13:16 GMT
#7
wow, only 1000 seat vs OSL that had like 5000 or 7000? and only to fan club ppl.. this plain suck. I can understand the fact that they exclude both player away from the audience for the game but they should just take a dam stadium. ITS FLASH VS JEADONG
n_n
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
January 20 2010 13:19 GMT
#8
/facepalm MBCgame
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
January 20 2010 13:19 GMT
#9
that pop-up was a very big deal eh? still this sucks ._.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
January 20 2010 13:20 GMT
#10
wtf is that shit
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
January 20 2010 13:20 GMT
#11
Wow that is a royal fuck up. It's already hard to get that hyped up about seeing two dudes in a booth clicking a mouse you can't even see, but the community, the fans, who all still go watch the games still faithfully do this. And yet they still want to separate it even more, the loyal fans, congrats you all get to congregate in a room and cheer at things on a tv screen... exactly what you could've just done at your own house.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 13:22:33
January 20 2010 13:20 GMT
#12
On January 20 2010 22:16 StarBrift wrote:
.... What to say?

I don't think players will regret playing in front of a huge ammount of people even if it makes them more nervous. The winner will be doubly pleased when he sees all the spectator.

The start of the decline of starcraft 1 this maybe?


no, just the increased idiocy of mbc.

while ogn seems to be on the rise once again picking up korean air as a sponsor for its next osl, mbc look like in deep shit with this move.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44046 Posts
January 20 2010 13:21 GMT
#13
You'll probably find they make a loss on the stadium but make $ on tv ads. This is pretty damn lame though.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 13:23:56
January 20 2010 13:22 GMT
#14
oh my god I jsut finished translating everything and even wrote a huge damn introduction for this

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

anyways yeah this is gay

EDIT: damnit I was so pumped to attend this too

oh my effing god
dats racist
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 20 2010 13:26 GMT
#15
This could have been the final that brought a new and better era to the esports scene
This final could have been just the thing what the new age people needed

fuck man, I so wanted to go to this. I even told NeverGG to help me get seats

just fuck.
dats racist
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33625 Posts
January 20 2010 13:27 GMT
#16
On January 20 2010 22:22 MrHoon wrote:
oh my god I jsut finished translating everything and even wrote a huge damn introduction for this

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

anyways yeah this is gay

EDIT: damnit I was so pumped to attend this too

oh my effing god


so add some commentary, pictures, analysis and make it a front page news story =o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
January 20 2010 13:29 GMT
#17
This is so ridiculous... 700 fans can go? I was expecting 10,000 people to be queuing around the block to see this =/
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 20 2010 13:31 GMT
#18
Fucking hell mbc are just terrible, just give your starleauge to gom, they'll do a better job
Its good that players have to play in front of a massive crowd, its one more element to sc that makes it more awsome
And i like how team mates go and throw up the players after they win
MBC epic fail
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 20 2010 13:32 GMT
#19
On January 20 2010 22:27 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 22:22 MrHoon wrote:
oh my god I jsut finished translating everything and even wrote a huge damn introduction for this

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

anyways yeah this is gay

EDIT: damnit I was so pumped to attend this too

oh my effing god


so add some commentary, pictures, analysis and make it a front page news story =o

naw I like yours better, mine just sounds like a rant from an angsty 15 year old kids with statistics and opinions lol
dats racist
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 20 2010 13:32 GMT
#20
when we finally get a jaedong vs flash finals mbcgame happens; good work mbcgame, ever wondered why it was hard to find a sponsor?

fucking ridiculous
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