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Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 10:14:46
January 21 2010 10:14 GMT
#341
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

WHY

It could have been so epic!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13531 Posts
January 21 2010 10:29 GMT
#342
As people have said, MBC just don't have the money.

I work in events atm, and it's extremely expensive to run a sub 1k person event let alone something around 10k. Perhaps they need to look at different sponsor arrangements for the future where they can bring on different tiers just for the finals.

Would MBC get control over things like food, beverage and merchandise?

It'd be interesting to see their revenue streams and where they could improve as they clearly aren't making enough and it isn't doing justice to a great finals series like this.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 21 2010 10:44 GMT
#343
I highly doubt that its that much about money as some people are implying. This is about the expected turnout.

In recent MSLs, turnout has been less than great (like with Calm/Kwanro), and its much better to show a Medium-sized venue that's packed with people cheerings and carrying signs, than a half empty stadium with empty seats between the fans. They didn't know what the final ticket would look like this MSL. The blame shouldn't fall on them for the small/medium sized venue, but on (A) limiting the available attendance to fanclubs (instead of allowing the general public), and (B) the virtual studio, which removes a lot of the 'excitement' of panning onto the audience as they sit actually watching the players (rather than a screen showing the players).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
laguu
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland278 Posts
January 21 2010 13:53 GMT
#344
On January 21 2010 18:40 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 18:35 Raz wrote:
not really a huge deal to me and most people here considering we`ll all be watching on a stream anyways. ppl in korea can still watch the finals on tv, i watched the stanley cup finals on tv and i didn`t rage.

besides, players say they play better at practice so hopefully a less stressful environment will allow them to play at an even higher caliber, and maybe jaedong will have a chance.

ok imagine stanley cup finals with audience consisting of 1000 people, third of them family members


You forgot that they watch it on a screen in a different room.
Arguing with a fool proves there are two.
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
January 21 2010 14:30 GMT
#345
They'll probably just gonna play in trucks outside the event. Just like Revenge. However Secret location to avoid fans. lol
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 21 2010 19:49 GMT
#346
I need to call in my boy here. You may know him, his name is Cott.
CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 21 2010 19:52 GMT
#347
On January 21 2010 14:11 EpiK wrote:
why couldn't they have done this for the kwanro vs calm final? No one would've given a shit then

CJ Entusman #24
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
January 21 2010 19:59 GMT
#348
ahahahahaha MBCFAIL ROFL

That sucks but you know what, we are going to get some FANTASTIC games either way. This will be so damn good... It is dissapointing but in no way ruins what we are about to witness. I am still SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#349
lol this is hilarious incompetence. guess what: find a new venue assholes. this could easily be the best match in starcraft history
adamisuber
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada35 Posts
January 21 2010 20:12 GMT
#350
This is unreal. How do you fuck up Flash vs Jaedong so bad?
PIDERMAN
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
January 21 2010 20:16 GMT
#351
This is why OSL>MSL
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:21:44
January 22 2010 10:20 GMT
#352
I'm surprised that once they discovered it was going to be Flash vs Jaedong they didn't scramble to find a new venue, find a way to get these guys to a bigger venue, anything.... Instead they decide to do that photo overall of Flash's face.. hahaha

If for the grudge matches, they can get players playing on the back of a truck...hell they could do they same in short notice! have them play on the back of trucks in a huge parking lot or something...
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 22 2010 17:12 GMT
#353
JD and Flash should refuse to play.
vOddy
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden402 Posts
January 22 2010 17:48 GMT
#354
You're very good.

At fucking up finals. Very useful talent toi have.
"You generate awesomeness. It just flows from you."
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
January 22 2010 17:56 GMT
#355
MSL is getting worse and worse.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 22 2010 18:00 GMT
#356
On January 22 2010 04:59 G5 wrote:
ahahahahaha MBCFAIL ROFL

That sucks but you know what, we are going to get some FANTASTIC games either way. This will be so damn good... It is dissapointing but in no way ruins what we are about to witness. I am still SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS!

I hope since they are all jeadong/flash fans that they got absolutely f'in apeshit to make up for the small crowd :O Like, I wanna see a riot. Games just aren't as fun unless the crowd is losing their minds.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
January 22 2010 18:08 GMT
#357
will they be playing from the trunk of a truck?
fuck lag
XiaoLongNuSucks
Profile Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso285 Posts
January 22 2010 18:23 GMT
#358
On January 22 2010 19:20 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
If for the grudge matches, they can get players playing on the back of a truck...hell they could do they same in short notice! have them play on the back of trucks in a huge parking lot or something...

That's a good idea dude, I believe the dudes at the head of MBC must've thought of this kind of way-out but maybe the sheer number of legal and technical procedures to go through were so large that they couldn't afford time and money to make such a venue change? u know, things like providing security and seats for 10k+ ppl are not easy to be done without proper prep time.
Anyway, there's NO EXCUSE for MBC's decision to completely isolate Jaedong and Flash from the audience!!!! This's sure gonna go down in pro-gaming history as one of the dumb-fuckin-best decisions ever made!!!!!!!!!111111
Yin Zhiping: "Xiaolongnü, stop fvcking that idiot Yang Guo, come n suck my d!ck, babe!"
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
January 22 2010 18:27 GMT
#359
^

Maybe they didn't want JD or F to audience hack.. LOL.

Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
January 22 2010 21:36 GMT
#360
That sucks. I've always liked to see huge crowd
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