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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
December 15 2009 23:52 GMT
#1
After a tired day after taking my last Final that took 3 hours and 10 pages of essay writing, I got back to my apartment and saw the door was opened. I looked at what item was on the floor and I saw Kerrigan's face. I looked closer and it seems that he got me Prima's Official Strategy Guide to Starcraft lol! He knows I play Starcraft time to time but he doesn't play it himself. It's the professional guide for starcraft, the Progamers are required a 3 hour intensive test on this material before they get their progaming license

I'll read you some pretty useful information from this strategy guide:

TvP Strategies:
- If the Protoss are employing Arbiters, use a Yamato Cannon to take them out quickly and reveal cloaked units.
- Upgraded Goliaths can butt heads effectively with a group of Scouts.

ZvT Strategies:
-Hydralisks, the Zergs' bread-and-butter unit, can be effective in both ground and air attack and defense. A Zerg player without Hydralisks is a Zerg player who's probably losing.

PvT Strategies:
-Fly an Arbiter behind enemy lines and have it use its Recall ability to bring in a group of Archons. Sit back and survey the carnage.

Protoss Tips: Gas it up! More than any other species, the Protoss rely on Vespene Gas to build their high-priced units. (Oh rly?)



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Sanku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada90 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 23:57:22
December 15 2009 23:56 GMT
#2
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy
# 1/0 NaDa fan. You can't get better than that./ I spell challenge with a "r"
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 15 2009 23:57 GMT
#3
i assume you came to canada from romania, yes?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
December 15 2009 23:59 GMT
#4
On December 16 2009 08:56 Sanku wrote:
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy


Wow thanks!
It felt like gravity.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 16 2009 00:04 GMT
#5
On December 16 2009 08:52 AzureEye wrote:
ategy Guide to Starcraft lol! He knows I play Starcraft time to time but he doesn't play it himself. It's the professional guide for starcraft, the Progamers are required a 3 hour intensive test on this material before they get their progaming license

This is the part that confused me. I know you were saying it as a joke but it wasn't funny enough for me to believe that it's a joke. I half believed you. :/

That is, until I read further lol
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
December 16 2009 00:07 GMT
#6
On December 16 2009 08:56 Sanku wrote:
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy

Protoss have several powerful/important units that take very few minerals. (HT/Archon/Arbiter/Observer.) Protoss will happily whore gas-intensive units if they can actually get the gas to do so.
My strategy is to fork people.
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
December 16 2009 00:12 GMT
#7
lol @ all the people about to be trolled by the "tips" in the OP.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 00:16:46
December 16 2009 00:14 GMT
#8
On December 16 2009 09:12 Ronald_McD wrote:
lol @ all the people about to be trolled by the "tips" in the OP.

all one of them? I doubt there will be any more. I'd like to be wrong though.

edit: When I read that progamers has an exam about this I was excited, finally I could probably get out of D- now. I am disappoint.
Woo Jung Ho
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 16 2009 00:17 GMT
#9
haha that's awesome

my housemate gave me some cookies with a thoughtful card
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
December 16 2009 00:18 GMT
#10
nobody gonna be trolled by those tips

though bcs can take out arbs in 1 hit
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 16 2009 00:19 GMT
#11
You'd think with how big SC is in Korea, there actually would be useful full length guides in bookstores. I guess all the people who could write them are either practicing 10 hours a day, or have hands that hurt too much after they've retired
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 16 2009 00:29 GMT
#12
Lol got to try the Yamato on an Arbiter sometime
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
December 16 2009 00:30 GMT
#13
On December 16 2009 08:57 JeeJee wrote:
i assume you came to canada from romania, yes?

lol romania comments are great!
Making history not reliving it.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 16 2009 00:32 GMT
#14
The game is ever changing, so the task of writing a guide and getting it published would take so long that by the time it hits the shelves the strategy's may be outdated. Besides they don't need books when they can just listen to the commentators during real games.

That said they do have starcraft books to learn English. Also, I've got me a copy of that strategy guide, and that is probably the reason for my recent success in reaching b-.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 16 2009 00:34 GMT
#15
On December 16 2009 09:18 FragKrag wrote:
nobody gonna be trolled by those tips

though bcs can take out arbs in 1 hit


This guy did lol.

On December 16 2009 08:56 Sanku wrote:
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy


My favourite strat they mentioned is:

"When both Comsat Stations and Yamato Cannons become available, use them together to take advantage of the Yamato's superior range. For example, to take out a Missile Turret, sweep the Missle Turret area with a Sensor Sweep, and then target it with a Yamato strike. The Battlecruiser will move in to take its shot while still outside the Missile Turret's range"
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9805 Posts
December 16 2009 00:37 GMT
#16
haha, i wanna see a bc yamato an arbiter in a progame. that would be freakin awesome (unless, ofc, it happens in flash v stork osl finals)!

that advice about golis vs scouts is actually really sound... this guide is really accurate
boomer hands
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
December 16 2009 00:39 GMT
#17
D- HERE YOU COME
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 00:42:03
December 16 2009 00:41 GMT
#18
you forget how firebats go through zerglings and zealots LIKE A HOT KNIFE THROUGH BUTTER

edit: and if you make ten bcs and yamato correctly on a zerg, BOOM! the hive and the entire air defense network is gone!
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 16 2009 00:42 GMT
#19
but Terran is very imbalanced. Nerf Terran.
bigsack
Profile Joined August 2007
Korea (North)220 Posts
December 16 2009 00:52 GMT
#20
That's really sweet and thoughtful of your roommate; wish I had a friend/roommate like that. And the tips are just so funny!
Hilary Clinton for 2008
Gangrel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States137 Posts
December 16 2009 00:55 GMT
#21
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 16 2009 00:59 GMT
#22
sweet but are any of those strats even useful today lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
December 16 2009 01:07 GMT
#23
its the thought that counts
Dwell
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 16 2009 01:13 GMT
#24
On December 16 2009 09:41 Kyuukyuu wrote:
edit: and if you make ten bcs and yamato correctly on a zerg, BOOM! the hive and the entire air defense network is gone!

Hell yeah, I remember doing that in the campaign.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
December 16 2009 01:15 GMT
#25
He gave you and the rest of us some good laughs, and a small sense of nostalgia. I'd say it was a pretty good gift
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 16 2009 01:20 GMT
#26
I love the warning to Zerg players: "Beware the Firebat rush."
And the unit counters section is really weird. Scout counters Muta, Guardian and Queen? Mutas > Science Vessels? The counter to High Templar is Arbiters?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 16 2009 01:27 GMT
#27
When I had just bought the game like 6-7 years ago I used to read the Prima strategy guide and I definitely remember some of those statements. Some of them really fucked me up for a long time, like using firebats against protoss players, and that you should keep attacking and never stop, 'because the opponent is always just on the cusp of falling'. That one especially kept me back for a long time.
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
December 16 2009 01:27 GMT
#28
I got one of those with Battlechest when I first bought SC. I find their general tips to be the most useful, especially "Play at a high energy state. Constantly be scanning everything, check your buildings, your units, minimap." That is the best thing I read there!
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
December 16 2009 01:46 GMT
#29
lol, I still have that sheet that came with the battle chest. It was a tech tree layout and it showed the siege tank, and right next to it was the goliath, but it was also called the "siege tank" haha. Then it had the dropship two spaces over and it was called an "observer" rofl.

Those strategy guides were really funny and bring back a lot of old memories of the first time playing Starcraft.
^_^V
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 16 2009 01:57 GMT
#30
Know your history, noobs.

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LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 16 2009 02:10 GMT
#31
On December 16 2009 09:52 bigsack wrote:
That's really sweet and thoughtful of your roommate; wish I had a friend/roommate like that. And the tips are just so funny!

Exactly my thought. Obviously useless, but quite nice of your roommate!
Liquid | SKT
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
December 16 2009 02:13 GMT
#32
Haha, well it's the thought that counts.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 16 2009 02:50 GMT
#33
On December 16 2009 08:56 Sanku wrote:
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy

clearly post of the week ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
December 16 2009 03:46 GMT
#34
On December 16 2009 08:57 JeeJee wrote:
i assume you came to canada from romania, yes?

Maybe he did, but over here we're glad you didn't.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 16 2009 03:50 GMT
#35
the strategy guide on battle.net (starcraft) says to go wraiths in TvP because they are useful for harassing probes especially when you research the cloak upgrade for them. ^_^
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
December 16 2009 04:35 GMT
#36
Wasnt the prima strategy guide released like 12 years ago? I had one when I bought my battlechest and I think i read it somewhere that it was printed in 1997 or something.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 16 2009 05:15 GMT
#37
this is good blog
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 16 2009 05:29 GMT
#38
This is gold.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 16 2009 06:57 GMT
#39
hahahahaha
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 16 2009 07:01 GMT
#40
i bought these with my battle chest for 14 dollars 7 years ago i only used the cheat codes on the back sincei had bad internet
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
December 16 2009 08:03 GMT
#41
On December 16 2009 08:56 Sanku wrote:
Not excatly the best tips; Battlecruisers are terrible in TvP, as Protoss has masses of Dragoons at that stage of the game; EMPing the arbiters would be better. Also scouts are almost never used in PvT unless you're Bisu. Recalling archons would be pretty ineffective you wouldn't be able to squeeze many in there. Zerg needs more gas than Protoss for Ultralisks and Lurkers. These tips were probably made when the game was released and there wasn't much strategy


I can't tell if he's joking or not.. =(
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
December 16 2009 09:07 GMT
#42
i think its the same guide that came from the battle chest i bought my sc bw from...so im guessing its pretty out dated and was made before the korean pro scene was known to the gaming community..or something like that lol nevertheless its kinda funny to see how what was considered good advice then is laughed at now haha
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 16 2009 10:01 GMT
#43
ROFL Prima guides are all shit. Full of supposed "pro-gamers" quoting shit and random dumb examples that don't add up to the gameplay.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 16 2009 11:22 GMT
#44
On December 16 2009 19:01 Loanshark wrote:
ROFL Prima guides are all shit. Full of supposed "pro-gamers" quoting shit and random dumb examples that don't add up to the gameplay.


yeah cuz modern progamer style shit was around in 98 when prima wrote the guide
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 16 2009 14:38 GMT
#45
FIREBAT RUSH
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
December 16 2009 17:09 GMT
#46
Actually the guide is quite intelligent from a theorycraft perspective from the pre-progaming era.
Unfortunately there are large, practical and basic logical aspects which were completely neglected even then, for example how to obtain the optimum mineral income from one base (as fast-expanding was inexistent) as fast as possible, as in, the author(s) never conducted any precise tests of the gameplay, more specifically, they vastly neglected the economic part, which is normal to consider in a strategy game that requires resource gathering.

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