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On December 07 2009 10:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You didn't really have a good reason to hit her either. If she cheated on you or killed your dog or something I might understand. but his dog wouldn't because he's just a dog.
Also he would be dead.
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Man sucks you missed the interview thats really harsh
There are VERY few things that would want to make me miss an AC with any of the big IB's out there (not sure about big 4, not a big fan of them haha)
Feel really bad for you. Seriously, how did she have the bright idea to turn off THREE alarms? Obviously there are 3 for a reason..
edit: wow hahaha all the focus is on the girl huh. Seriously dear god. I feel bad for you, the OP. Not the girl, the OP. I hate that feeling of being forced into the most rediculous position out of someone elses goodwill when common sense on their part (and in my eyes) would have prevented it.
Maybe in this case i really over-value these kinds of jobs I put my trading interviews on a higher regard than anything - In monetary terms they are worth tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of pounds. Id skip holidays, seeing my GF, seeing my parents to get to one of them. They are more important than your fucking university degree (because why do you even need a degree if you can get a grad job in trading)
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Having said that, one of the competencies you need for the interviews should describe exactly situations like this - you woke up at 11, and once that is happened there is nothing you can do except call up and explain your situation, and cry. One of the competencies required is to be able to handle exactly something like this
edit edit: omg reading some of the posts in this thread wants to make me tear my eyes out
Telling op to deal with rage issues? Just gtfo right now. Some of you have absolutely no idea what these job processes are like, the literally make or break the future of your life. The exit oppourtunities in big4 are CRAZY good. Id be raging JUST as hard as op if something like this happened to me, id shout and scream in the streets until my lungs burned out.
I mean, if it was something like strategy consulting, you are talking about a 5000-1 applicant ratio (and assessment centre means you got to the last 5/1) and thats the difference between sitting on your ass doing nothing all your life and scoring a job that starts of well paid and ends up as sky is the limit (hundreds of thousands to millions depending on how good you are)
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On December 07 2009 10:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You didn't really have a good reason to hit her either. If she cheated on you or killed your dog or something I might understand.
Or if she cheated on you with your dog...
But yeah, you shouldn't have hit her. She's definitely a keeper though, if you lose her, you'll probably be making a big mistake.
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To OP: Failure to communicate. First on the level that you should have told her you have an interview. Second on how you "communicated" your anger.
To BrTarolg: You don't get paid well in the beginning if you work audit or tax in the Big 4. They work you like dogs the first 2-3 years and pay you below market average by a fair bit. Also, you're assuming that most people want to put in 80 hour weeks 20 years down the line to get that big pay check you're drooling about.
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I don't really know anything about audit or tax (other than their relative positions in operations)
I am almost certain that the working hours in operations/audit/tax/assurance is probably less than 80, but probably more than 80 if you start dipping into finance or M+A or something like that.
For someone who works in M+A (which is probably overkill for me, id start sweating after 15 + hours a day) or corp finance you can expect their hard work to pay off by the fact that it is the fastest way to move up the career ladder
Either way, id be SERIOUSLY pissed if i missed AC's or interviews with any reputable company. Not only do you miss the once in a lifetime oppourtunity, it looks absolutely terrible on your record with that company and their HR department
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OP:
First: How stupid are you when you decide to NOT tell her you have an importnant interview? Interview is not the same thing as actually getting employed. If the interview was for anything importnant at Deloitte you would probably go through a process of 3-5 interviews. And if you already gone through 3 interviews they would without any doubt reschedule the interview - IF they really wanted you. Tough shit, you probably didn´t cut it in the first place.
Second: To take out your anger on her, over a thing like that, is bordeline psychopathic. If you have any decency you break this relationship up before it turns into something far worse, for her that is.
Third: Who wants to work at Deloitte anyways? And rage over it?! Laughing out loud. If you don´t have bigger plans or higher expectations of yourself and look into you own future farther than a first (I assume) interview at Deloitte I´m actually a little sorry for you (didn´t think I would write that).
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I would at least call them up and explain, because it's a small chance of getting another interview vs getting nothing. I would be pretty damn pissed too though. It sucks that you hit her but everyone makes mistakes. And it probably won't happen again, because you'll think of this moment next time. Just be glad you learned your lesson for a relatively cheap price. Losing a job and your GF would be horrible.
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FuDDx
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Is it just me but does someone who hits girls not deserve to have a good job? Hope you get some help for those anger issues. It probably wont be the last time you do something like this, get some help.I know nothing of you other than your op I haven't read any other posts. I really am trying to be understanding but I can not condone something that Men never do to a woman. The few memories I have of my real dad is bullshit like that, I really hope you grow up and find a place inside your self you can go instead of raging on a girl.
EDIt: Ummm Really, just read through most of the post here. You guys feel bad for him? omg are we raising a bunch of assholes who make excuses for beating women you all should be ashamed of yourself.
edit again and it being ok to rage on someone because of the great job OO are you living in a wonder land? Your job gonna protect you from the cops showing up at your door ready to take you to jail for beating again or killing the girl cause you raged over a fucking job.This world is about so much more than some stupid 6 figure a year job. Hopefully one day you'll see that many other things are way more important than some high stress omg I got to kill myself if I dont get job shit. Let me add an IMO ^_^
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People hit each other, deal with it. Its wrong, don't do it
This doesn't mean that OP has anger or rage issues, it just means he made a mistake, like any normal person does
Fck people on their high horses seriously
"i slapped my gf" = " i am a wife beater who should be sent to jail and rot for the rest of my life" nice. Seriously i feel bad for some of my friends who get slapped by their GF's and for them its like "oh you deserved it"
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FuDDx
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On December 08 2009 01:28 BrTarolg wrote: People hit each other, deal with it. Its wrong, don't do it
This doesn't mean that OP has anger or rage issues, it just means he made a mistake, like any normal person does
Fck people on their high horses seriously
"i slapped my gf" = " i am a wife beater who should be sent to jail and rot for the rest of my life" nice. Seriously i feel bad for some of my friends who get slapped by their GF's and for them its like "oh you deserved it"
I don't really have anything to say to you other than I am sorry you feel that way.I try to live my life to certain standards ones I believe firmly in. There is no reason imo to hit a women I defiantly wasn't raised that way seeing my mother beaten by my real father and my step-dad for years.Watching your mom being held down while your dad drops a knife onto her chest while yelling at her tends to leave some mark on you. Or seeing my mom draged down the hallway by her hair telling me call the cops while my dads sya its ok we are just playing. fuck you dude These are my believes and I know I am right.Just because it happens does not mean we have to participate or accept it. Try to change it.
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On December 08 2009 01:41 FuDDx wrote:
I don't really have anything to say to you other than I am sorry you feel that way.I try to live my life to certain standards ones I believe firmly in. There is no reason imo to hit a women I defiantly wasn't raised that way seeing my mother beaten by my real father and my step-dad for years.Watching your mom being held down while your dad drops a knife onto her chest while yelling at her tends to leave some mark on you. Or seeing my mom draged down the hallway by her hair telling me call the cops while my dads sya its ok we are just playing. fuck you dude These are my believes and I know I am right.Just because it happens does not mean we have to participate or accept it. Try to change it.
Man you should be able to at least see the difference in what you just wrote and this case...
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FuDDx
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I do see the difference but i still believe firmly in not hitting women.My examples were not to say this is the same, but I do believe without some sort of help it can only get worse.Those examples are the reasons I have 0 tolerance for hitting women. It confounds me in this day in age I have to try and explain why hitting women is wrong even without my own personal examples its just fricking wrong.
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I don't think the op needs "help" because it would be a bit of a vast exaggeration to say that this particular time (where he was incredibly unlucky and put under a lot of stress) is indicative of a great big underlying problem where he is going to get worse and worse in the future
Never a big fan of the slippery slope idea, always seems to have very little basis and mostly relies on fear of the unknown to pressure people around
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On December 08 2009 02:19 BrTarolg wrote: I don't think the op needs "help" because it would be a bit of a vast exaggeration to say that this particular time (where he was incredibly unlucky and put under a lot of stress) is indicative of a great big underlying problem where he is going to get worse and worse in the future
Never a big fan of the slippery slope idea, always seems to have very little basis and mostly relies on fear of the unknown to pressure people around And he will never be under a lot of stress again? This isn't a slippery slope, he's already hit his gf.
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On December 08 2009 02:49 seppolevne wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 02:19 BrTarolg wrote: I don't think the op needs "help" because it would be a bit of a vast exaggeration to say that this particular time (where he was incredibly unlucky and put under a lot of stress) is indicative of a great big underlying problem where he is going to get worse and worse in the future
Never a big fan of the slippery slope idea, always seems to have very little basis and mostly relies on fear of the unknown to pressure people around And he will never be under a lot of stress again? This isn't a slippery slope, he's already hit his gf.
hitting a girl once is not something that would make me instantly believe someone needs to get help I'm sure many of us have things that were really important to us that we'd rage if they were messed up
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On December 08 2009 03:48 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 02:49 seppolevne wrote:On December 08 2009 02:19 BrTarolg wrote: I don't think the op needs "help" because it would be a bit of a vast exaggeration to say that this particular time (where he was incredibly unlucky and put under a lot of stress) is indicative of a great big underlying problem where he is going to get worse and worse in the future
Never a big fan of the slippery slope idea, always seems to have very little basis and mostly relies on fear of the unknown to pressure people around And he will never be under a lot of stress again? This isn't a slippery slope, he's already hit his gf. hitting a girl once is not something that would make me instantly believe someone needs to get help I'm sure many of us have things that were really important to us that we'd rage if they were messed up No doubt, and I don't think he'll become some wife-eating lunatic. But to say he'll never do it again when he already has seems to be wishful thinking.
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Man I'm sorry u missed the Deloitte interview...must've been tough to get that interview though I guess it's not as bad as a year ago when every NYC-based firm basically froze...
Seems like she understood that you were in a reasonable rage and a heat of the moment...but even than to be accepting towards being slapped...man, that's true love...
U confirmed the strength of a true love at the expense of missing an accounting/consulting company interview...not a bad payoff in the long run since the former is much more difficult to find than the latter...there are more good accounting/consulting firms than there are true love (who knows, maybe u end up at KPMG, E&Y, or PWC, etc and find urself much happier than Deloitte)...
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To all those who attribute fault to the OP simply "because men should never hit a woman" by relying on antiquated notions of chivalry/morality/tradition/etc... are not reasoning at all. Simply saying something shouldn't be done because "it is so" doesn't fly, such are far from compelling arguments. I find that there could be limited situations, which really depend on the surrounding circumstances, where hitting a woman may be justified, and the OP's situation is certainly not one of them imo.
Anyway, good luck on the job search and hopefully you won't do this again.
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He realized what he did was wrong. I mean, the way he missed his interview is pretty ridiculous and I'd get really pissed at it too. He just lost his mind momentarily and hit her. Losing your head happens to everyone, it just manifests in different ways at different times. Comparing this guy to your lunatic father and step-father makes little sense as they do it constantly, abuse your mother in far more horrific ways, and they do not repent for what they have done, nor do they believe what they are doing is wrong; "we're just playing".
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Christ. I can't believe some people are looking at this as a problem just because a man hit a woman, not due to a person hitting a person who wronged unintentionally.
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