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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 11:00:49
November 30 2009 11:00 GMT
#1
Again a day late, might actually start doing the blog on mondays instead of sundays since, for some reason, I'm always busy sundays now.

Goals set up for week 5:
5x50 minutes swimming, I didn't manage to fill that goal because I've been crazy busy this past week. I've been going on 4-5 hours of sleep all week so I just couldnt get a 5th work out in there.

Making my breakfast more healthy. I set this goal for myself after reading the comments to my last blog, and I've been working on it. My breakfast combinations this week have been the following:
Option 1:
Low fat yoghurt with 1 banana sliced into it, glass of orange juice, a slice of wholemeal bread.
Option 2:
Low fat milk, orange juice, eggs of some sort, two slices of wholemeal bread and 1-2 bananas depending on how hungry I was.

I have also tried to keep from eating inbetween meals but fell off the wagon a couple of times cause I was so stressed out. But atleast I wasnt eating anything sweet or unhealthy when I was "snacking".

So for my next week I'm gonna keep three separate goals:
Goal 1:
Working out: 5x50 minutes swimming
Goal 2:
Eating better: I'll have a look at more ideas for breakfast since having only two options kinda sucks.(please contribute if you have something that might help me here)
Goal 3:
Getting more active: This is a new goal, I want to become more active inbetween my swimming-sessions. The goal here is to become more active in my daily routine. Maybe getting off the bus one stop earlier. Walking from the bus-station to school instead of taking another bus.

Question of the week:
Do you guys think it's too early for me to start going to the gym once a week or will it actually boost my metabolism?

Awesome thing of the week:
Alot of the friends I hang around with often has stared notice me losing weight. They say my face is starting to look slimmer and that my upper body (chest and up) is where I seem to be losing weight first.

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 30 2009 11:03 GMT
#2
awesome work dude keep it up <3
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
November 30 2009 11:14 GMT
#3
It's never too early to start going to the gym once a week. It's probably a good idea for you to get acquainted with the people and equipment there, it's always awkward the first couple times.
U Gotta Skate.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 30 2009 12:06 GMT
#4
Don't get tempted to buy any julmust =)

Consider eating the "3% naturell yoghurt" instead of the low fat versions because for me personally it tastes better and keeps me full longer.

Cut the orange juice and eat an orange instead they taste great around Christmas and are alot cheaper then the kind of juice you could replace them with. My third suggestion is to bake your own bread because the right kind of bread is very expensive in sweden (except for knäckebröd).

I have baked myself for over year and I have saved alot of money doing it. I can give you all my recipes if you want.

I have eaten the light yogurt for about 3 years and I switched back recently and it was alot better food for me
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 30 2009 12:11 GMT
#5
I would mix in fruit with your breakfast, its healthy and fills you up. I think it wouldn't be too soon to start hitting the gym, just be really careful not to hurt yourself, and don't be afraid to start slow. If you put yourself up in traction for a week, all your hard work will basically be for nothing.

Good luck and keep it up!
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 12:23:20
November 30 2009 12:20 GMT
#6
Nice job dude. I think experimenting with the gym would be a good idea.

Goal 3:
Getting more active: This is a new goal, I want to become more active inbetween my swimming-sessions. The goal here is to become more active in my daily routine. Maybe getting off the bus one stop earlier. Walking from the bus-station to school instead of taking another bus.


This would be a smart thing to do. Every little bit helps.

Awesome thing of the week:
Alot of the friends I hang around with often has stared notice me losing weight. They say my face is starting to look slimmer and that my upper body (chest and up) is where I seem to be losing weight first.


That's cool dude, you deserve it.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 30 2009 12:28 GMT
#7
On November 30 2009 21:06 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Don't get tempted to buy any julmust =)

Haha too late, but I drink maybe a litre a month this year, unlike last year where I could down a litre of julmust a day.

On November 30 2009 21:06 Patriot.dlk wrote:
I have baked myself for over year and I have saved alot of money doing it. I can give you all my recipes if you want.


That would be really awesome, cause I love baking and since I'm nothing but a poor student saving money is always a plus. Also freashly baked bread is just so good.

@everyone else:
thanks for the kind words so far
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Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
November 30 2009 12:35 GMT
#8
On November 30 2009 20:00 Julmust wrote:
Question of the week:
Do you guys think it's too early for me to start going to the gym once a week or will it actually boost my metabolism?


It's never early to start going to the gym... and if you ask me once a week is too weak of routine even for a beginner. This is comming from someone who went from 120kg to 60kg in like 7-8 months. You need to push your limits no matter what... at least thats the way i see it and it worked for me.
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 30 2009 12:38 GMT
#9
good job dude! when ur all slim and whateever , we need some before after pics :D:D:D:D
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
November 30 2009 12:51 GMT
#10
Julmust Light ftw, should be no calories like Coke Zero. :3

Graphics
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
November 30 2009 13:08 GMT
#11
After 5 weeks, how many pounds or kilograms do you think you have lost?
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
November 30 2009 13:20 GMT
#12
how exactly does your menu work?
like do u just eat healthy or have u made a menu with the right amount of calories, proteins, carbs and fat?
Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
November 30 2009 13:26 GMT
#13
Keep going, but cut out the juice if you can. Really high in sugar and calories. Other good breakfast choices:

cottage cheese on toast
egg sandwich (egg on toast with low-fat/no-fat cheese)
yogurt with cereal (get plain yogurt and add nutrasweet or splenda--makes it taste great!)
toast with peanut butter on it (be careful with the amount of peanut butter)
yogurt with frozen berries (make sure the berry mix you get doesn't have added sugar)

Try eating 5-6 smaller meals a day to really rev up your metabolism. Also, post pics!
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 30 2009 13:39 GMT
#14
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/860312/bröd.pdf

Make a bread and make me proud (want pics). I advice against cutting fat in your diet overall. Cut food that's obviously very bad but not stuff like cheese or yogurt.

That way you will stay on your new diet a life time instead of getting sick of it after some time... Speaking of my own experience.

I can't stop eating bacon. I must have bacon sometimes for breakfast and as a result try to workout a little extra that day/coming workout
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
November 30 2009 16:54 GMT
#15
I would suggest eating smaller portions for breakfast. It seems like you're eating quite a few calories and you want some where around 400 for breakfast to start your metabolism then have a larger(not huge) lunch and something slightly smaller for dinner. Apples or bananas in between the meals are a great choice for snacks too. No calories after 10pm!
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 30 2009 17:28 GMT
#16
Congrats!

Maybe you should keep track of your weight and graph it for yourself, good motivator imo (:
Peace~
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
November 30 2009 18:03 GMT
#17
On December 01 2009 02:28 fanatacist wrote:
Congrats!

Maybe you should keep track of your weight and graph it for yourself, good motivator imo (:

he's said in his previous threads that his scale doesn't go past 120kg which he is currently heavier than. I'm sure he'll start keeping track when he gets it down though.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 30 2009 18:56 GMT
#18
Yeah my scale dont go this high yet But when I get there I'll keep track of whatever I can weightwise.

Also:
got inspired by the recepies you sent me patriot.dlk (de lyckliga kompisarna?) but didnt have the groceries for bread at home, so I made meatballs :D now I have meatballs for like... two weeks haha.
Pic:
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 30 2009 19:10 GMT
#19
Mega-reply coming
On November 30 2009 21:11 meeple wrote:
I would mix in fruit with your breakfast, its healthy and fills you up. I think it wouldn't be too soon to start hitting the gym, just be really careful not to hurt yourself, and don't be afraid to start slow. If you put yourself up in traction for a week, all your hard work will basically be for nothing.

Good luck and keep it up!

I'm trying to mix it in, but my imagination really sucks sometimes. And the starting slow part will most likely be the biggest problem I'll face, since I've always been the guy who wants to show off.

On November 30 2009 21:38 alffla wrote:
good job dude! when ur all slim and whateever , we need some before after pics :D:D:D:D

Absolutely, next week is picture week. Hoping that you can tell the diffrence.

On November 30 2009 21:51 keit wrote:
Julmust Light ftw, should be no calories like Coke Zero. :3

Thanks for the advice but I'm just gonna keep my consumption down. It's kind of me rewarding myself when I go out and get a glassbottle of julmust. And if I have one in the fridge I know it'll wait for me after swimming so I'm extra motived to go swim :D (I dislike light-drinks overall, maybe a part of why I'm fat?)

On November 30 2009 22:08 Sadistx wrote:
After 5 weeks, how many pounds or kilograms do you think you have lost?

I don't know actually. Buy I have noticed a diffrence, I have this jacket I used to wear and since... april it's been tight but now I can actually wear it without lookin like the michelin man.

On November 30 2009 22:20 Presony-Boy wrote:
how exactly does your menu work?
like do u just eat healthy or have u made a menu with the right amount of calories, proteins, carbs and fat?

No I haven't gotten that far into looking into my eating habits. Instead I'm just keeping off fast food (which I think is helping alot) and try to cut down on calories. I have this problem that I get too serious too fast and then I just get sick of it cause I'm kind of laid back, so this time i'm taking it slow. piece by piece, trying to improve one thing per week.

On November 30 2009 22:26 Ingenol wrote:
Keep going, but cut out the juice if you can. Really high in sugar and calories. Other good breakfast choices:

cottage cheese on toast
egg sandwich (egg on toast with low-fat/no-fat cheese)
yogurt with cereal (get plain yogurt and add nutrasweet or splenda--makes it taste great!)
toast with peanut butter on it (be careful with the amount of peanut butter)
yogurt with frozen berries (make sure the berry mix you get doesn't have added sugar)

Try eating 5-6 smaller meals a day to really rev up your metabolism. Also, post pics!

Thanks for the advice! I actually didnt know that about orange juice. And I FUCKING LOVE cottage cheese on bread. Is cereal actually better then bread for breakfast? If I choose one of the more healthy options?

And pics coming next week

On December 01 2009 01:54 iSiN wrote:
I would suggest eating smaller portions for breakfast. It seems like you're eating quite a few calories and you want some where around 400 for breakfast to start your metabolism then have a larger(not huge) lunch and something slightly smaller for dinner. Apples or bananas in between the meals are a great choice for snacks too. No calories after 10pm!

Yeah you're right, I have to make my meals smaller, I'll try to see how many calories I eat for breakfast tomorrow.

Thanks again for the advice and the kind words guys!
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 30 2009 19:43 GMT
#20
The kind of orange juice that's not full of crap costs pretty much. My favorites are Brämhults and Kiviks.

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Those products are made from oranges and oranges only. Have a bottle and drink one glas of juice on saturday (or something like that). Every day consumption is not optimal and as I suggesed have an actual orange instead =)

Those meatballs looks great I could not have done better myself. Buy expensive lingonsylt and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Cereals as in corn flakes are bad but rågfras or müsli is pretty good for you. Bread is fine though stick with what you can eat the rest of your life
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
November 30 2009 20:02 GMT
#21
On December 01 2009 03:56 Julmust wrote:
Yeah my scale dont go this high yet But when I get there I'll keep track of whatever I can weightwise.

Maybe it would be a good investment to buy a scale that goes high enough. Seeing the number drop would be a great motivation.
On November 30 2009 22:26 Ingenol wrote:
Try eating 5-6 smaller meals a day to really rev up your metabolism.

Apparently this is widely accepted in nutrition circles. Don't be afraid to snack as long as the snack is healthy and you don't overeat.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 30 2009 20:15 GMT
#22
On December 01 2009 04:43 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Those meatballs looks great I could not have done better myself. Buy expensive lingonsylt and enjoy the fruits of your labor.


Yeah brämhults is awesome, but expensive t.t but atleast I'm lucky enough to have a mother who makes lingonsylt for me *mmmm*
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 30 2009 20:16 GMT
#23
On December 01 2009 05:02 XinRan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 03:56 Julmust wrote:
Yeah my scale dont go this high yet But when I get there I'll keep track of whatever I can weightwise.

Maybe it would be a good investment to buy a scale that goes high enough. Seeing the number drop would be a great motivation.
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 22:26 Ingenol wrote:
Try eating 5-6 smaller meals a day to really rev up your metabolism.

Apparently this is widely accepted in nutrition circles. Don't be afraid to snack as long as the snack is healthy and you don't overeat.


Actually I think they have those special scales at the gym, might try one of them out.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:28:56
November 30 2009 20:23 GMT
#24
That's awesome julmust! I really hope you will reach your goals and I will help you as much as I can.

General principle for dieting: less carbs (pasta, rice, bread), more protein (meat, egg, fish etc). Good amount of healthy fats (avocados, extra virgin olive oil, nuts & seeds).


I'll post an example (in semi-swedish) of what I eat a typical day when semi-dieting/eating healthy in general and shedding fat.


Breakfast: Havreberikad porridge + a bit of milk. 2 eggs + avocado

Before workout: 1 protein shake

After workout: 1 protein shake

After workout meal: pasta + shrimps/eggs and whatever I put in. OR just rice + tuna + krossade tomater

Snack: 50-100 gr cashew nuts/sunflower seeds

Dinner: 200-300 gr salmon (with olive oil) + broccoli OR chicken filets prepared in the oven. Notice, there is hardly any carbs in this meal.


IMPORTANT: What you eat is pretty much the most important thing in order to loose weight, and eating more protein helps you not loose muscle. Think more about eating well and less about swimming 5 times/week. Eating decently isn't hard at all tbh, just eat more salmon, chicken and tuna and less pasta/rice/bread. Avocados and eggs are great too. Breakfast nr 1 is not that good tbh, too much carbs and sugar. Keep the yoghurt and banana and juice and add 2 eggs for protein. No bread or banans for breakfast.

Swimming is very good exercise but to make it a bit more realistic I would suggest you swim 2 times/week and lift weights 2 times/week, on separate days. For instance Monday swimming, Tuesday weights, Wednesday off, Thursday swimming, Friday weights.

Start by using machines at the gym for a couple of weeks just to understand what trains what if you're a complete newbie to weight training. Or you could check out this blog I wrote and use the full body workout posted there. The concept is quite simple, one exercise per muscle group, each time.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=94480

Everything aside I like your determination and I'm sure that you will achieve your weight goals! =)
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 30 2009 20:33 GMT
#25
On December 01 2009 05:02 XinRan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 03:56 Julmust wrote:
Yeah my scale dont go this high yet But when I get there I'll keep track of whatever I can weightwise.

Maybe it would be a good investment to buy a scale that goes high enough. Seeing the number drop would be a great motivation.
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 22:26 Ingenol wrote:
Try eating 5-6 smaller meals a day to really rev up your metabolism.

Apparently this is widely accepted in nutrition circles. Don't be afraid to snack as long as the snack is healthy and you don't overeat.


Actually don't weigh yourself more than once a week tops. It usually gives quite the inaccurate weight depending on what you have eaten, how much water your body is holding etc.

Instead measure yourself with a måttband; measure your belly, legs etc and keep score.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
December 02 2009 05:57 GMT
#26
i swear i gain half of the weight you lose.

+ Show Spoiler +
seriously keep it up and good work and such! <3
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 02 2009 06:10 GMT
#27
Bananas give good carbs though, in the morning should be fine. I do eat a lot of chicken breast though.
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 06:25:25
December 02 2009 06:22 GMT
#28
On December 01 2009 05:23 Foucault wrote:
Swimming is very good exercise but to make it a bit more realistic I would suggest you swim 2 times/week and lift weights 2 times/week, on separate days. For instance Monday swimming, Tuesday weights, Wednesday off, Thursday swimming, Friday weights.

Start by using machines at the gym for a couple of weeks just to understand what trains what if you're a complete newbie to weight training. Or you could check out this blog I wrote and use the full body workout posted there. The concept is quite simple, one exercise per muscle group, each time.

Good advices regarding food, but why you think he should cut swimming? Swimming every day is absolute best, while gym is useless for his goal, i'm judging it from my own experience. Losing fat and gaining muscles are two different things.

Not only it's best to swim every day, but it's better to swim for 2 hours or longer. When you're all heated up, it's the best a lot of pleasure. The best way to spend time, weight training can become tiring and burdening, while swimming for a long time always feels great.

Regarding food a good advice is to eat when you feel real hunger, when i was kind of chubby i actually never felt hunger at all, and only later i realized that, i would start eating while not feeling this strong tingling feeling in stomach (which feels good for some reason), and if you don't swim or run a lot, that's going to result in extra fat even from light food.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
December 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#29
Keep swimming, I love it, it's a great way to spend time just thinking and enjoying the way your body moves unburdened.
Yogurt + nut-cluster based cereal is a great breakfast.
Drink lots of water, it will aid in keeping you full and you need it for metabolism.
Keep it up, and good job so far!
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
December 02 2009 11:31 GMT
#30
On December 02 2009 15:10 Disregard wrote:
Bananas give good carbs though, in the morning should be fine. I do eat a lot of chicken breast though.


No they don't give good carbs.

Fruit is alot of sugar, which is pretty much only good after a workout, or like 1 fruit/day for vitamines etc. Funny how people have so many faulty assumptions about nutrition
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 11:35:35
December 02 2009 11:35 GMT
#31
On December 02 2009 15:22 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 05:23 Foucault wrote:
Swimming is very good exercise but to make it a bit more realistic I would suggest you swim 2 times/week and lift weights 2 times/week, on separate days. For instance Monday swimming, Tuesday weights, Wednesday off, Thursday swimming, Friday weights.


Good advices regarding food, but why you think he should cut swimming? Swimming every day is absolute best, while gym is useless for his goal, i'm judging it from my own experience. Losing fat and gaining muscles are two different things.


I think he should swim, but not 5 times a week. He is a newbie at swimming atm and going hardcore right away is always counter-productive. Let's say he starts swimming 2 times a week and after a year maybe he is swimming 3-4 times/week. It's all about steady and slow progression.

Gym is not "useless" for his goal lol. It will help him keep muscle, while loosing fat, provided he is on a calorie deficient diet.

OP seems to have vanished though
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 02 2009 16:04 GMT
#32
No no I'm still here, I'm reading everything that's said don't worry I did miss the part about the fruit though (which blew my mind a lil' bit) I'll have to replace it with just yoghurt and celerals I guess? Got a question about the chicken:
Is it important that I make it in the oven? Or can I just like fry it and eat it with say cottage cheese?

And next week I'll start going to the gym, got a bit worried yesterday while swimming cause one of my shoulders started hurting but it went away once I got warmed up.

A question Focault:
When I go the the gym at first, which muscle groups do you feel I should work on? Keep in mind that I think I'll need to skip the legs for the first time since they're naturally pretty strong due to me being overweight, and I want to lose the most MASS on my legs and around my stoumach.

Tried keeping my breakfast at 400kcal or less this week, it's been going great and even though I'm actually eating less I don't get hungry until lunchtime thanks to eating well.

Can you just tell me how I should change this breakfast:
about 2dl of light yoghurt
1 banana sliced in
a little bit of kelloggs special k (is müsli better?)
1 orange

I understand I should switch out the fruit, but for what?

(another awesome thing happend today, put on some pants I havent worn in a while since they kinnda looked like spandex on me, they're actually perfect now)
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 02 2009 16:12 GMT
#33
On December 03 2009 01:04 Julmust wrote:
No no I'm still here, I'm reading everything that's said don't worry I did miss the part about the fruit though (which blew my mind a lil' bit) I'll have to replace it with just yoghurt and celerals I guess? Got a question about the chicken:
Is it important that I make it in the oven? Or can I just like fry it and eat it with say cottage cheese?

And next week I'll start going to the gym, got a bit worried yesterday while swimming cause one of my shoulders started hurting but it went away once I got warmed up.

A question Focault:
When I go the the gym at first, which muscle groups do you feel I should work on? Keep in mind that I think I'll need to skip the legs for the first time since they're naturally pretty strong due to me being overweight, and I want to lose the most MASS on my legs and around my stoumach.

Tried keeping my breakfast at 400kcal or less this week, it's been going great and even though I'm actually eating less I don't get hungry until lunchtime thanks to eating well.

Can you just tell me how I should change this breakfast:
about 2dl of light yoghurt
1 banana sliced in
a little bit of kelloggs special k (is müsli better?)
1 orange

I understand I should switch out the fruit, but for what?

(another awesome thing happend today, put on some pants I havent worn in a while since they kinnda looked like spandex on me, they're actually perfect now)


Although eating baked chicken is better for you, alot of the time it requires significantly more time than just using a frypan. Realistically its not a huge deal if you just use minimal oil, and try to keep it to healthy oils that you cook with. There are much bigger things to worry about diet-wise imo.

To me, that breakfast is really good actually... why do you want to switch out the fruit? Fruits are good for you, even if they do have alot of calories, its mostly simple sugars that are burnt off very quickly.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 02 2009 16:17 GMT
#34
meeple:
well it's mainly because of this being said:
On December 02 2009 20:31 Foucault wrote:
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On December 02 2009 15:10 Disregard wrote:
Bananas give good carbs though, in the morning should be fine. I do eat a lot of chicken breast though.


No they don't give good carbs.

Fruit is alot of sugar, which is pretty much only good after a workout, or like 1 fruit/day for vitamines etc. Funny how people have so many faulty assumptions about nutrition

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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 02 2009 20:36 GMT
#35
meatballs looks good lol
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 02 2009 20:47 GMT
#36
On December 03 2009 01:17 Julmust wrote:
meeple:
well it's mainly because of this being said:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:31 Foucault wrote:
On December 02 2009 15:10 Disregard wrote:
Bananas give good carbs though, in the morning should be fine. I do eat a lot of chicken breast though.


No they don't give good carbs.

Fruit is alot of sugar, which is pretty much only good after a workout, or like 1 fruit/day for vitamines etc. Funny how people have so many faulty assumptions about nutrition



Well, it is true that fruits contain alot of sugar, but in the morning the sugars help you have energy to be more active. Having an apple is very different from eating a pack of Swedish Berries, and I would always suggest you mix in fruit with a breakfast, or throughout the day.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-full-story/index.html

If you're totally adamant about cutting out sugars, try eating veggies instead. Just make sure if you eat them with salad dressing, opt for the healthy version.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 02 2009 20:51 GMT
#37
I haven't really been following your progress, but I plan to go over it all when you meet your goal(s). Do you plan on posting before, after, and progress pictures? Then you could make a scrap book about it and use it as a reminder to yourself all the time etc
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 22:45:30
December 02 2009 22:43 GMT
#38
On December 03 2009 01:04 Julmust wrote:
No no I'm still here, I'm reading everything that's said don't worry I did miss the part about the fruit though (which blew my mind a lil' bit) I'll have to replace it with just yoghurt and celerals I guess? Got a question about the chicken:
Is it important that I make it in the oven? Or can I just like fry it and eat it with say cottage cheese?

And next week I'll start going to the gym, got a bit worried yesterday while swimming cause one of my shoulders started hurting but it went away once I got warmed up.

A question Focault:
When I go the the gym at first, which muscle groups do you feel I should work on? Keep in mind that I think I'll need to skip the legs for the first time since they're naturally pretty strong due to me being overweight, and I want to lose the most MASS on my legs and around my stoumach.

Tried keeping my breakfast at 400kcal or less this week, it's been going great and even though I'm actually eating less I don't get hungry until lunchtime thanks to eating well.

Can you just tell me how I should change this breakfast:
about 2dl of light yoghurt
1 banana sliced in
a little bit of kelloggs special k (is müsli better?)
1 orange

I understand I should switch out the fruit, but for what?

(another awesome thing happend today, put on some pants I havent worn in a while since they kinnda looked like spandex on me, they're actually perfect now)


Let's see...

Instead of yoghurt and especially cereals (which consist of fast carbs) I would go with porridge but that's up to you. It doesn't really matter if you make the chicken in the oven or fry it in a pan, pretty much the same thing. Use extra virgin olive oil in the pan, it contains lots of healthy fats.

Do the exercises I linked to in my previous post. Work out legs too; they are a large muscle group and promotes muscular gains in your body overall. Do one exercise per muscle group, and focus on the big ones first, back, legs, chest, and then do shoulders, abs and arms if you like.
One should always lift some weights because if you want to put on weight you'll add muscle, and if you're gonna loose weight it will help you keep muscle and loose fat instead.

Light yoghurt is fine. I would change the banana to apples or some other fruit. Bananas are good to eat directly after a workout, when your body needs the fast energy. Cornflakes are not that good if you want to loose weight, they consist of carbs with a high glycemic index. You could make your own musli with havregryn, pumpafrön, etc but that's maybe a bit advanced. Keep the orange. You don't have to switch out the fruit for anything, just keep it to 1-2 a day tops. You might want to add in some eggs in your breakfast too, they are a good source of protein.

Good! Don't by new clothes until your weight loss is done btw I talk from experience

Like I've said earlier, cut down on carbs (eat less): rice, pasta, potatoes, cereal, fruit. Eat more veggies and meat/chicken/tuna/salmon. Tuna is cheap and is a very good source of protein. Cutting down on carbs will give you very good results quite fast.



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UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
December 03 2009 07:36 GMT
#39
As a general principle for making your diet more sustainable remember three things:
1)to lose one single kg of weight you have lose 9.000 kcalories, pretty much the equivalent of not eating for 3 days and a half, if course that doesn't mean you don't have to eat for 3.5 days x number of kgs you want to lose, it means that if you stay on a 2000 Kcal diet, wich is hypocaloric for sure, it will require a lot of time, the morale is that you need to be patient, very patient, loosing weight, and loosing it well, requires months
2)linked to point 1; since diet is a long thing you don't have to make anything extreme, because this will end up with you stopping the diet earlier than you should; i read you're going swimming 5 per week, imho that's a LOT, not saying it's a bad thing but dude 5xweek is athlet stuff, good that you do even find the time, 2 or 3 times a week of aerobic exercise is way enough, oh and by the way, if you're swimming you don't need gym by no mean; swimming is not a 100% pure aerobic exercise like running, it tones up your muscles pretty well.
3)what happens if you try to make an extreme diet? meaning that you burn way more than you eat (either because you eat too little or beacuse you burn too much). Caloric restriction is a situation our body is used to cope with very well, that has been the normal situation for hundred thousands years, we can deal with it way better than we deal with caloric excess, wich is a situation our body is NOT used to face.
Our body will simply start using proteins to get energy, and where do you find tons of protein? In our skeletal muscle of course, that's right, you'll start eating up your own muscles, so beware of extreme diets, and if you make sport make sure you eat more, always trying to get an hypocaloric regimen of course but not excessively. Good thing is carbohydrates after sport because in that very moment they are rapidly taken into the stocks of the muscles instead of being captured by the liver as usual. This will help your muscles in recovering faster after each training session, and in performing better in the next one, not to say that those carbohydrates are way less likely to become fat.

So as for something i read along the lines in this topic, it's not true that if you diet you lose muscles, of course you're less likely to gain muscles and any kind of work out will result less effective, but if you diet well and with patience you're not going to lose muscles, then again you're swimming so there's no way in hell you're going to lose muscles, you don't need the gym.
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