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!Played a 228 APM TSL'er and never even made any tech past a cyber core in 10 mins and won!
I'll make a BR for it tomorrow
!PvP 4 Gate Goon in PvT HBR
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
!Played a 228 APM TSL'er and never even made any tech past a cyber core in 10 mins and won! I'll make a BR for it tomorrow !PvP 4 Gate Goon in PvT HBR | ||
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tossinYoSalad
United States215 Posts
On November 22 2009 09:12 Diamondback2 wrote: Well I tried it and I'm happy to report I'm 1-0 with it !Played a 228 APM TSL'er and never even made any tech past a cyber core in 10 mins and won! I'll make a BR for it tomorrow !PvP 4 Gate Goon in PvT HBR very nice. classic strong fd is 6-10 marines and a tank with a vulture reinforcing. ive seen the build you're talking about and its quite strong. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On November 22 2009 07:14 beefhamburger wrote: How do you pass mines? Idk, a little thing called micro? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
His scout hits my base at 16 psi when I'm SUPPOSED to be building my gas. Instead for some reason I decide to build my gas should be built on 18 so the Terran gas steals ME! lol. he gets it up to like 450 hp b4 i kill the SCV so I didn't get my gas till 23. so I build 3 zealots instead of 2. completely confused by what he sees the opponent has a hardcore pause b4 he decides to siege expand. which is good as siege expanding is the totally wrong answer for what is about to come. being he has no scouting scv he doesn't see the 3 more gates and range all happen. when i attack around the 7 min mark (approx times just going off memory) with 3 zealots and 6 dragoons. needless to say his 4 sieged tanks and marine are very quickly overwhelmed. i take control of the natural just a moment and only lost 2-3 goons in the process. now that his natural has been abandoned, i proceed to march right into his main with my initial army. i immediately take control of the staging area of his factories. at about the 8 min point it's pretty much gg as i have limited him to one base at a time and destroyed about 15 SCV's, 6 tanks, & 2 vultures, and a marine to boot. by the 9 min mark it's beyond gg as i have destroyed now +5-10 scv's, another vulture, a bunker, +2 marines, and another 2 tanks, and unbeknown to him, i have mined out his 0 min patch so now i can control the high ground if i lose control of the main. he proceeds to fight for another minute before he leaves (no gg, i can't imagine he was happy bout getting ran over by a million ranged goons.). | ||
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WhiteNights
United States252 Posts
i see a lot of terrans get bunker if they don't see an expand | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 22 2009 17:31 WhiteNights wrote: what do you do if they put up bunker and sim city in the natural i see a lot of terrans get bunker if they don't see an expand remember i hit them with like 7 goons and a pair of zealots on the first attack. if they have a bunker without heavy support i'll eat it up. the build that scares me the most is 2 fac vultures/mines. i can mine drag well but it slows down the attack so hardcore. and in the game i won the guy simcity'd his natural and l8r built a bunker in it. neither helped ! | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
so when I get frustrated and just want some wins, I macro hard off of 1 base/2 gate. When I get nearly a control group I move out, then add 2 gateways and get one tech depending on what I see. my apm can handle it, I can micro the units right the point is, d isn't a place that can prove the effectiveness of a build order. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 22 2009 19:40 KurtistheTurtle wrote: the point is, d isn't a place that can prove the effectiveness of a build order. I'm not trying to prove effectiveness, if you read the whole post I am just having some fun... For the 10th time I understand this will not work past the D ranks. But that's y the D Ranks r fun, they allow you to do dumb shit like this and win if u do it right. And chill it was likke an above poster said. He saw all the units and panicked hardcore, he pulled his SCV's from his natural to his main and opened up a nice path for my goons. plus he had some really weird wall to top it off. Check out the replay if you want to see more. | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
On November 22 2009 08:55 Diamondback2 wrote: i'm not sure. it's when the terran attacks with either: 3-4 vultures 1 tank 3-4 marines or 2-3 vultures 2 tanks 3-4 marines i normally see it when i 12 nexus, but l8ly i have been seeing it alot. might be a FD of some sorts? Terrans who push like this are godawful. This timing does not exist, and if it won you are using a very poor 12nex build. Your build can only beat shitty players, but you've already acknowledged that, so I have no idea why you posted it in a strategy forum. Btw, terran can lingtight wall on HBR with 2 depots and a rax. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 23 2009 02:20 duckett wrote: Terrans who push like this are godawful. This timing does not exist, and if it won you are using a very poor 12nex build. Your build can only beat shitty players, but you've already acknowledged that, so I have no idea why you posted it in a strategy forum. Btw, terran can lingtight wall on HBR with 2 depots and a rax. Dude this is the blogs forum. I think you might need to throw on ur glasses. Because this is a bad strat that I am doing FOR FUNm I did not put it in the strat forum, i put it in the blogs, as i stated above...... | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
On November 23 2009 02:38 Diamondback2 wrote: Dude this is the blogs forum. I think you might need to throw on ur glasses. Because this is a bad strat that I am doing FOR FUNm I did not put it in the strat forum, i put it in the blogs, as i stated above...... oops, my fault. It's kinda frustrating though that people like you and many others screw around with trashy builds at the d level for players who are actually playing through d ranks trying to refine a build. kids end up getting out of d after getting their builds barely down and then getting trashed by people who can macro and understand the game a little bit better. just like how you can beat so many people just by building like 2 dts. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On November 23 2009 05:21 duckett wrote: oops, my fault. It's kinda frustrating though that people like you and many others screw around with trashy builds at the d level for players who are actually playing through d ranks trying to refine a build. kids end up getting out of d after getting their builds barely down and then getting trashed by people who can macro and understand the game a little bit better. just like how you can beat so many people just by building like 2 dts. you bring up a good point. but in the same token it teaches them how to think on the fly and deal with unorthodox play. On November 23 2009 05:23 Amnesia wrote: Why make things so complicating? Simple solution: DT Rush. i've won prolly 30-40% of my games with DT FE. Want to try something new and Medusa or Tau Cross aren't MOTW so I can't 10/.15. I've played 85 games of PvT in a row, so I want to do a couple games just for fun. And for reference HBR is a bad map for this strat lol. I failed to realize how dumb dragoons can be about getting thru the choke.... 1-1 with it now. Could have won the second game if the goons didn't freak out at that choke and go backwards.... not cool.... | ||
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