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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2009 06:22 GMT
#1
I changed from Zerg after i got bored of it and 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8w9z0z was too hard for me.

I changed to terran to practice my apm (requires the most) and i liked mnm and Boxer is god. So, when my TvZ was decent enough to CRUSH NOOBS, i worked on my TvP. i seriously HATE TvP. I even lost to my friend who just started to play Starcraft. My units seemed to melt instead of melting the protoss. I won 0-103492358436845635 for my TvP. SO, after i got DTed for the 200th time, i quit Terran and moved onto the 1a2a3a race.

i played PvZ against my friend, who has been helping me for every match up. was my first PvZ in Months and i think i did decently. Terran was so boring because turtling is fucking retarded... PvT is sorta opposite. I love to send few units to rape. Turtling in PvT will get you nowhere. Terran will eventually bust open your choke and eat you alive. I always thought protoss was lame and a waste but Storms and DTs and Zealots are fun to use. Its so much different from terran where you HAVE to turtle and aggression can get you killed. although not as aggressive as zerg, its alot more easier to control and Storms > Swarm.

now go ahead aand rate this blog a 1/5 ._.

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Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
November 03 2009 06:24 GMT
#2
Only noobs turtle as Terran.

If you like Boxer, play like him. 2 port wraith, 2 fac, and sneak an expo when they least expect it (a la iloveoov).
Shitposting
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2009 06:26 GMT
#3
On November 03 2009 15:24 VorcePA wrote:
Only noobs turtle as Terran.

If you like Boxer, play like him. 2 port wraith, 2 fac, and sneak an expo when they least expect it (a la iloveoov).


I play like him and i fail >>... I BBS, Bunker Rush, make wraiths, make valks, everything i tried in TvP but its always the same out come... the need to make Tanks and goliaths
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada723 Posts
November 03 2009 06:26 GMT
#4
ha, I feel your pain. I'm a Zerg player myself, trying to learn Terran to boost my APM and to get a feel for how a different race works. TvZ isn't awful (my mnm control is slowly improving, just need to remember to macro all those rax) but TvP is brutal! There are probably all sorts of things I'm doing wrong, but for now it's really frustrating to venture cautiously out of my wall and get crushed by 5 gateways worth of units and a couple of arbiters.

cool if you're having fun with toss though. I don't play P much but I have to agree, well-placed storms are super satisfying :D
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-03 06:32:46
November 03 2009 06:32 GMT
#5
learning another race wont boost your apm with your main all too much. And yeah, terrans turtle, they cant survive against a protoss at the lower levels without turtling, unless they do some allinish thing
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fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
November 03 2009 06:34 GMT
#6
Tip: play what you like and not what you win with, seriously, i did that..and got bored of that race even with winning.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2009 06:36 GMT
#7
On November 03 2009 15:34 fAnTaCy wrote:
Tip: play what you like and not what you win with, seriously, i did that..and got bored of that race even with winning.


I liked TvZ but i wanted to see how TvP was like. Mech is some hard shit to control and turtling is boring so eh... i chose the "all mu is fun" race
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 03 2009 06:40 GMT
#8
TvP isn't THAT hard. I mean, yeah, I have the worst TvZ of anyone to ever live unless I'm meching, but still (to give you an idea, I typically stare at my marines as they die because I enjoy the sound of them dying too much to scan for the lurkers... I love lurkers.) And my tvp is pretty bad, but I still managed to go like 40% with it at D ranks.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 03 2009 06:42 GMT
#9
im c- and my tvp is d-
i feel your pain

Total
vZ 9-4 | 69.2%
vP 1-8 | 11.1%
vT 4-2 | 66.7%
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fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
November 03 2009 06:44 GMT
#10
Yeah...TvP is by far one of the hardest matchups..but it feels so great when you beat the imbaness of a protoss user, i once quit terran because of tvp..but then came back because i loved the race too much to let me stop playing because of one terribly hard matchup
President of Doctor Helvetica Fan Club...PM to join. Members--4, Most recent: Archas
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
November 03 2009 06:45 GMT
#11
On November 03 2009 15:40 Nevuk wrote:
TvP isn't THAT hard. I mean, yeah, I have the worst TvZ of anyone to ever live unless I'm meching, but still (to give you an idea, I typically stare at my marines as they die because I enjoy the sound of them dying too much to scan for the lurkers... I love lurkers.) And my tvp is pretty bad, but I still managed to go like 40% with it at D ranks.

i disagree. i just hit C- and i still cant beat D- Protoss :O

lol i have something like 20% TvP, 55% TvZ, 62% TvT XD

ITS IMPOSSIBLEKLAJSDLKFASLK
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2009 06:47 GMT
#12
On November 03 2009 15:44 fAnTaCy wrote:
Yeah...TvP is by far one of the hardest matchups..but it feels so great when you beat the imbaness of a protoss user, i once quit terran because of tvp..but then came back because i loved the race too much to let me stop playing because of one terribly hard matchup


Toss seems like a fun race because im doing decently in PvZ and PvT ( EASIEST MU EVERRR) i just need to learn the basics of PvP. But who knows, i might get bored like i did with Zerg and go back to Terran or Zerg and like them more than toss
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 03 2009 06:56 GMT
#13
Well, I'm a Protoss player but my TvP is waay better than my PvP. Its better than all my vZ matchups as well o.o
I dunno, I've always found it pretty easy, especially at low levels when you can easily macro up an army of equal or greater food count than your protoss opponent :D
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
November 03 2009 07:06 GMT
#14
If you don't wanna turtle TvP, learn deep six and hope they go for some kind of fast 3rd. :D

Of course, it'll only work if they go pure goons for a while, I really don't know the mindsets of a protoss in PvT. D:
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2009 07:14 GMT
#15
On November 03 2009 16:06 Thesecretaznman wrote:
If you don't wanna turtle TvP, learn deep six and hope they go for some kind of fast 3rd. :D

Of course, it'll only work if they go pure goons for a while, I really don't know the mindsets of a protoss in PvT. D:


what i like to do is to harass with early goons and zealots when i have the chance ( lifted wall or unsieged tanks)
Storm drop then DTs to clean up the damaged SCVs is really neat since it takes 1hit to kill SCVs after storm.. if they live
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 03 2009 07:41 GMT
#16
On November 03 2009 15:42 Caller wrote:
im c- and my tvp is d-
i feel your pain

Total
vZ 9-4 | 69.2%
vP 1-8 | 11.1%
vT 4-2 | 66.7%


Replace losing your army to 2 lurks in TvZ to losing your whole army to 2 dts in TvP?
sAviOr...
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 03 2009 07:42 GMT
#17
On November 03 2009 15:26 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 15:24 VorcePA wrote:
Only noobs turtle as Terran.

If you like Boxer, play like him. 2 port wraith, 2 fac, and sneak an expo when they least expect it (a la iloveoov).


I play like him and i fail >>... I BBS, Bunker Rush, make wraiths, make valks, everything i tried in TvP but its always the same out come... the need to make Tanks and goliaths

You made wraiths and valks in a TvP?...
Graphics
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
November 03 2009 07:49 GMT
#18
On November 03 2009 16:14 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 16:06 Thesecretaznman wrote:
If you don't wanna turtle TvP, learn deep six and hope they go for some kind of fast 3rd. :D

Of course, it'll only work if they go pure goons for a while, I really don't know the mindsets of a protoss in PvT. D:


what i like to do is to harass with early goons and zealots when i have the chance ( lifted wall or unsieged tanks)
Storm drop then DTs to clean up the damaged SCVs is really neat since it takes 1hit to kill SCVs after storm.. if they live

dear gawd...i dont ever want to experience all of them at once. plz, once at a time is enough LOL.
at least u didnt mention arbiters in ur strat >.>
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
November 03 2009 08:23 GMT
#19
yeah that's what turns me off about terran, TvP is such a girly turtle orientated match up.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
November 03 2009 08:45 GMT
#20
as i clicked this thread, i was hoping it wasn't a switch to protoss

then i saw the probe logo

and i raged

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