• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:59
CEST 09:59
KST 16:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 227ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5339 users

Zero to hero

Blogs > Phrujbaz
Post a Reply
Normal
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
October 12 2009 21:33 GMT
#1
I've been playing for 9 (!) years and I can barely hold C- on ICCup.

I've had it. Screw this. I quit.

I quit sucking. From now on, I will say gg and leave the game as soon as my apm drops below 300. I refuse to play on for 30 more fucking minutes getting no practice at all just because the game is not finished. If I'm not practising, I leave the game, eat something, drink something, and start practising.

Stop wasting 90% of the time that I play.

I will play the same fucking build every game. And I mean it. No more fucking "I'm bored so I guess I will offrace." No more "How about two gate proxy?" If I'm bored, I will STILL play the same fucking build until I'm enjoying myself. And if my apm drops below 300 because I'm bored and not really trying, I instaquit the game and slam my head against the wall until I can get the point "stop sucking" through my thick skull.

I've seriously had it now. I guess after wasting time for nine years it is time to take something seriously for once, eh?

Goal: Top 3 player in Europe before SC2 comes out.

I mean it.

*
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
October 12 2009 21:34 GMT
#2
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?
Moderator
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#3
Good luck in your journey.

And I hope you reach your goal.

I have a goal too. To play against you once you're that good.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#4
apm=skill, true?
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#5
apm=effort
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 12 2009 21:43 GMT
#6
On October 13 2009 06:42 mcJ wrote:
apm=skill, true?


Sorry to double post.

If you're not trolling or kidding then APM does not necessarily equal skill. This is just one of this guy's skills/goals, to play well with a higher APM.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 12 2009 21:46 GMT
#7
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort


I totally agree.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 12 2009 21:48 GMT
#8
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
October 12 2009 21:51 GMT
#9
mm probably not a good idea. inteligent practice for 2 hours > mindless play for 10 hours.

seriously.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 12 2009 21:51 GMT
#10
I've been playing for fun, on and off for about 9 years.
I can easily get past C- ranks using whatever build I feel like as I go along.
The secret?
Protoss.
No I'm never serious.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
October 12 2009 21:53 GMT
#11
that should be in the recommended thread.

in bold "PICK PROTOSS"
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 12 2009 21:53 GMT
#12
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?
GANDHISAUCE
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-12 22:08:15
October 12 2009 21:55 GMT
#13
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103589
you should talk the guy who's not bisu.
edit: ouch. he got owned
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 12 2009 22:03 GMT
#14
I will say gg and leave the game as soon as my apm drops below 300


Fuckin lol.
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
October 12 2009 22:05 GMT
#15
wanna play some games?
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
October 12 2009 22:09 GMT
#16
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort


i thought effort is a cj zerg o_O
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 12 2009 22:11 GMT
#17
On October 13 2009 06:51 BabyRhino wrote:
mm probably not a good idea. inteligent practice for 2 hours > mindless play for 10 hours.

seriously.


Lies. Damn Lies.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
October 12 2009 22:17 GMT
#18
It's clearly not sub-300 apm holding you back, probably poor mechanics and mindset by the sounds of it. Big jump between C- toss and C too.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-12 22:30:28
October 12 2009 22:30 GMT
#19
On October 13 2009 07:17 Scarecrow wrote:
It's clearly not sub-300 apm holding you back, probably poor mechanics and mindset by the sounds of it. Big jump between C- toss and B- too.


Sorry but its true
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
October 12 2009 22:30 GMT
#20
On October 13 2009 06:34 Empyrean wrote:
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?


Aww thats just mean..

Isn't his ban almost up?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
October 12 2009 22:36 GMT
#21
FUCK YEAH MAN! YOU GO!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
October 12 2009 23:03 GMT
#22
On October 13 2009 06:53 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?


Obviously.

I could go into it; the mathematics/semantics are tricky, but it's got to be true.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
rA.Hippie
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Denmark714 Posts
October 12 2009 23:10 GMT
#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66048
Chill wrote an excellent guide for this :O
I love teh shisha.
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
October 12 2009 23:49 GMT
#24
On October 13 2009 06:53 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?

Isn't Kim Jung Woo a famous South Korean soccer player?
지지이이이이이이이이이이이
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 13 2009 00:11 GMT
#25
Leaving the game before its over will

1. Make you more frustrated
2. Not train your survival skills
3. Not give you a full game's worth of work

Also, you need to chill the fuck out.
Peace~
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 13 2009 01:03 GMT
#26

Also, you need to chill the fuck out.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 13 2009 01:07 GMT
#27
you know what you need to do? play some 4V4 BGH NO NOOBS games on east. just stop playing on iccup for a while

p.s
if you are still mediocre after 9 years, another few months of intense training wont help
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
October 13 2009 01:20 GMT
#28
Man if Stork left every game where he dropped below 300 apm we'd never get to see him play
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
October 13 2009 01:49 GMT
#29
On October 13 2009 10:07 iamho wrote:
you know what you need to do? play some 4V4 BGH NO NOOBS games on east. just stop playing on iccup for a while

p.s
if you are still mediocre after 9 years, another few months of intense training wont help

Yeah, what I like to do is go on east and play some fastest games. cannon rush into mass sairs with reavers into arbiters to recall.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
October 13 2009 02:04 GMT
#30
On October 13 2009 06:34 Empyrean wrote:
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?

I really thought race had made a new TL acct for a second...
funky squaredance funky squaredance funky squaredance
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 172
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42959
GuemChi 1791
Shuttle 800
Leta 521
Mong 509
actioN 260
ggaemo 83
ZergMaN 62
Aegong 54
Dewaltoss 53
[ Show more ]
yabsab 45
Soma 37
Bale 24
GoRush 16
Larva 1
League of Legends
JimRising 613
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv641
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King126
Other Games
Happy291
Sick198
Liquid`Ken13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick24243
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 42
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota275
League of Legends
• Jankos1419
• HappyZerGling92
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 1m
CrankTV Team League
3h 1m
OSC
9h 1m
Replay Cast
16h 1m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
CrankTV Team League
1d 3h
OSC
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Heroes Pulsing #3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.