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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
October 12 2009 21:33 GMT
#1
I've been playing for 9 (!) years and I can barely hold C- on ICCup.

I've had it. Screw this. I quit.

I quit sucking. From now on, I will say gg and leave the game as soon as my apm drops below 300. I refuse to play on for 30 more fucking minutes getting no practice at all just because the game is not finished. If I'm not practising, I leave the game, eat something, drink something, and start practising.

Stop wasting 90% of the time that I play.

I will play the same fucking build every game. And I mean it. No more fucking "I'm bored so I guess I will offrace." No more "How about two gate proxy?" If I'm bored, I will STILL play the same fucking build until I'm enjoying myself. And if my apm drops below 300 because I'm bored and not really trying, I instaquit the game and slam my head against the wall until I can get the point "stop sucking" through my thick skull.

I've seriously had it now. I guess after wasting time for nine years it is time to take something seriously for once, eh?

Goal: Top 3 player in Europe before SC2 comes out.

I mean it.

*
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17046 Posts
October 12 2009 21:34 GMT
#2
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?
Moderator
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#3
Good luck in your journey.

And I hope you reach your goal.

I have a goal too. To play against you once you're that good.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#4
apm=skill, true?
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
October 12 2009 21:42 GMT
#5
apm=effort
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 12 2009 21:43 GMT
#6
On October 13 2009 06:42 mcJ wrote:
apm=skill, true?


Sorry to double post.

If you're not trolling or kidding then APM does not necessarily equal skill. This is just one of this guy's skills/goals, to play well with a higher APM.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 12 2009 21:46 GMT
#7
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort


I totally agree.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 12 2009 21:48 GMT
#8
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
October 12 2009 21:51 GMT
#9
mm probably not a good idea. inteligent practice for 2 hours > mindless play for 10 hours.

seriously.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 12 2009 21:51 GMT
#10
I've been playing for fun, on and off for about 9 years.
I can easily get past C- ranks using whatever build I feel like as I go along.
The secret?
Protoss.
No I'm never serious.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
October 12 2009 21:53 GMT
#11
that should be in the recommended thread.

in bold "PICK PROTOSS"
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 12 2009 21:53 GMT
#12
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?
GANDHISAUCE
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-12 22:08:15
October 12 2009 21:55 GMT
#13
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103589
you should talk the guy who's not bisu.
edit: ouch. he got owned
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 12 2009 22:03 GMT
#14
I will say gg and leave the game as soon as my apm drops below 300


Fuckin lol.
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
October 12 2009 22:05 GMT
#15
wanna play some games?
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
October 12 2009 22:09 GMT
#16
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort


i thought effort is a cj zerg o_O
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 12 2009 22:11 GMT
#17
On October 13 2009 06:51 BabyRhino wrote:
mm probably not a good idea. inteligent practice for 2 hours > mindless play for 10 hours.

seriously.


Lies. Damn Lies.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 12 2009 22:17 GMT
#18
It's clearly not sub-300 apm holding you back, probably poor mechanics and mindset by the sounds of it. Big jump between C- toss and C too.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-12 22:30:28
October 12 2009 22:30 GMT
#19
On October 13 2009 07:17 Scarecrow wrote:
It's clearly not sub-300 apm holding you back, probably poor mechanics and mindset by the sounds of it. Big jump between C- toss and B- too.


Sorry but its true
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
October 12 2009 22:30 GMT
#20
On October 13 2009 06:34 Empyrean wrote:
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?


Aww thats just mean..

Isn't his ban almost up?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
October 12 2009 22:36 GMT
#21
FUCK YEAH MAN! YOU GO!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
October 12 2009 23:03 GMT
#22
On October 13 2009 06:53 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?


Obviously.

I could go into it; the mathematics/semantics are tricky, but it's got to be true.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
rA.Hippie
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Denmark714 Posts
October 12 2009 23:10 GMT
#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66048
Chill wrote an excellent guide for this :O
I love teh shisha.
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
October 12 2009 23:49 GMT
#24
On October 13 2009 06:53 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 06:48 Sadistx wrote:
On October 13 2009 06:42 Phrujbaz wrote:
apm=effort

effort = Kim Jung Woo

APM = Kim Jung Woo?

Isn't Kim Jung Woo a famous South Korean soccer player?
지지이이이이이이이이이이이
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 13 2009 00:11 GMT
#25
Leaving the game before its over will

1. Make you more frustrated
2. Not train your survival skills
3. Not give you a full game's worth of work

Also, you need to chill the fuck out.
Peace~
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 13 2009 01:03 GMT
#26

Also, you need to chill the fuck out.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 13 2009 01:07 GMT
#27
you know what you need to do? play some 4V4 BGH NO NOOBS games on east. just stop playing on iccup for a while

p.s
if you are still mediocre after 9 years, another few months of intense training wont help
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
October 13 2009 01:20 GMT
#28
Man if Stork left every game where he dropped below 300 apm we'd never get to see him play
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
October 13 2009 01:49 GMT
#29
On October 13 2009 10:07 iamho wrote:
you know what you need to do? play some 4V4 BGH NO NOOBS games on east. just stop playing on iccup for a while

p.s
if you are still mediocre after 9 years, another few months of intense training wont help

Yeah, what I like to do is go on east and play some fastest games. cannon rush into mass sairs with reavers into arbiters to recall.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
October 13 2009 02:04 GMT
#30
On October 13 2009 06:34 Empyrean wrote:
So are you familiar with Racenilatr?

I really thought race had made a new TL acct for a second...
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