• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:04
CET 11:04
KST 19:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win02025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
LMAO (controversial!!)
Peanutsc
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1412 users

TLnet Poll - Are you interested in seeing more dedicated 2…

Are you interested in seeing more dedicated 2v2 competitions? :

Extremely interested (215)32%
Somewhat interested (211)32%
Extremely disinterested (104)16%
Somewhat disinterested (72)11%
Neutral/don't know (63)9%

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 02:02:23
January 12 2023 02:01 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for TL.net front page poll: "Are you interested in seeing more dedicated 2v2 competitions?"
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States846 Posts
January 12 2023 05:39 GMT
#2
Was a refreshing surprise to see the caliber of players in the recent WTL 2v2, tons of fun watching it and would follow more. I give a resounding "somewhat interested". The recent finals were awesome/fun as hell and I'd love to see this evolve beyond what feels like gimmicky fun.

2v2's never seemed to catch on and I'm grateful this event happened since it showcased the intense back and forth we see from 1v1's can be seen in that format.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 06:04:05
January 12 2023 06:03 GMT
#3
Not really, no. Maybe I would be interested in seeing it in Stormgate if thats a thing but I feel like in StarCraft 2 1v1 is my bread and butter.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
January 12 2023 06:15 GMT
#4
Watching out of curiosity, but I prefer to watch 1v1 rather than team games. If a team game tournament happens again why not, but 2v2 skills don't always translate into 1v1s, and vice-versa, while that's part of what I might want to see out of a player.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States846 Posts
January 12 2023 06:29 GMT
#5
On January 12 2023 15:03 CicadaSC wrote:
Not really, no. Maybe I would be interested in seeing it in Stormgate if thats a thing but I feel like in StarCraft 2 1v1 is my bread and butter.


funnily enough I used the term "bread and butter" referring to 1v1 in my previous post then reworded it, some hive mind shit. I mean, not wrong.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 12 2023 07:36 GMT
#6
yeah i'd like to see it. and if it catches on enough, team leagues can include 2v2s in a more meaningful fashion, kinda like in war3

i will say following 4 players at once at the pace of sc2 can be quite stressful though
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
774 Posts
January 12 2023 08:11 GMT
#7
Absolutely. It's both interesting and refreshing, and I'm always interested to see my favorite games being played in different ways, not just one.
SpecKROELLchen
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany151 Posts
January 12 2023 09:12 GMT
#8
Yes, this would be great.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
January 12 2023 09:13 GMT
#9
Big yes after watching the recent 2v2 world team league.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 12 2023 11:40 GMT
#10
The 2v2 Tour of World Team League was fun. I would like to see more 2v2.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1387 Posts
January 12 2023 12:12 GMT
#11
yes! last tournament was fun to watch
mada mada dane
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6176 Posts
January 12 2023 12:33 GMT
#12
I would really like to see more of 2v2 tournement.
n_n
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3444 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 14:25:19
January 12 2023 14:24 GMT
#13
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary403 Posts
January 12 2023 14:28 GMT
#14
On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


I like this idea
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 12 2023 14:32 GMT
#15
2v2 is a very hard format to watch in SC2 properly, due to the very high speed of the game, i'd say - no

2v2 format is much better suited for the game like WAR3, it's slower, more micro-oriented, plus we have more possible matchups and it produces very interesting series frequently
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33468 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 14:38:52
January 12 2023 14:37 GMT
#16
On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


Couldn't disagree more.

Whenever this has happened (old Proleague in BW, most recent Nation Wars), 2v2 felt like a distraction from the 1v1 that people were primarily there to see.

I think forcing 2v2 into 1v1 events is what makes them seem "wacky," while standalone events with meaningful prizes is what helps them gain "legitimacy."
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
January 12 2023 15:01 GMT
#17
On January 12 2023 23:37 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


Couldn't disagree more.

Whenever this has happened (old Proleague in BW, most recent Nation Wars), 2v2 felt like a distraction from the 1v1 that people were primarily there to see.

I think forcing 2v2 into 1v1 events is what makes them seem "wacky," while standalone events with meaningful prizes is what helps them gain "legitimacy."

Have the Ace Match as 2v2, now that would be more "fun".
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
January 12 2023 23:39 GMT
#18
2v2, yes... but I'd like a BW 2v2 tournament even more.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 13 2023 00:25 GMT
#19
Yes, but it would necessitate a complete makeover of the 2v2 mappool.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States846 Posts
January 13 2023 02:42 GMT
#20
On January 13 2023 09:25 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yes, but it would necessitate a complete makeover of the 2v2 mappool.


Makes me curious how maps with no shared(ish) bases would fair, something like Nautilus.

[image loading]

No doubt the ability for 2 players to gang up on 1 could get out of control, but regardless I'd like to see it tested.


1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
10:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D1
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 29370
Bisu 1560
actioN 632
BeSt 481
Pusan 347
Mini 329
sSak 196
EffOrt 141
PianO 118
ToSsGirL 65
[ Show more ]
sorry 57
Light 50
Aegong 47
Movie 31
Sharp 24
soO 23
yabsab 18
Sacsri 16
Terrorterran 7
HiyA 6
Bale 5
Sea 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe174
ODPixel65
League of Legends
JimRising 531
Counter-Strike
oskar82
Other Games
summit1g17066
olofmeister681
singsing391
Pyrionflax144
Sick125
Mew2King84
NeuroSwarm35
Dewaltoss20
crisheroes8
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL14878
Other Games
gamesdonequick631
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH163
• LUISG 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV354
League of Legends
• Jankos2351
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 56m
CrankTV Team League
2h 56m
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Falcon
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
Replay Cast
12h 56m
The PondCast
22h 56m
CrankTV Team League
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.