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Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 02:02:23
January 12 2023 02:01 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for TL.net front page poll: "Are you interested in seeing more dedicated 2v2 competitions?"
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States850 Posts
January 12 2023 05:39 GMT
#2
Was a refreshing surprise to see the caliber of players in the recent WTL 2v2, tons of fun watching it and would follow more. I give a resounding "somewhat interested". The recent finals were awesome/fun as hell and I'd love to see this evolve beyond what feels like gimmicky fun.

2v2's never seemed to catch on and I'm grateful this event happened since it showcased the intense back and forth we see from 1v1's can be seen in that format.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 06:04:05
January 12 2023 06:03 GMT
#3
Not really, no. Maybe I would be interested in seeing it in Stormgate if thats a thing but I feel like in StarCraft 2 1v1 is my bread and butter.
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
January 12 2023 06:15 GMT
#4
Watching out of curiosity, but I prefer to watch 1v1 rather than team games. If a team game tournament happens again why not, but 2v2 skills don't always translate into 1v1s, and vice-versa, while that's part of what I might want to see out of a player.
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Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States850 Posts
January 12 2023 06:29 GMT
#5
On January 12 2023 15:03 CicadaSC wrote:
Not really, no. Maybe I would be interested in seeing it in Stormgate if thats a thing but I feel like in StarCraft 2 1v1 is my bread and butter.


funnily enough I used the term "bread and butter" referring to 1v1 in my previous post then reworded it, some hive mind shit. I mean, not wrong.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 12 2023 07:36 GMT
#6
yeah i'd like to see it. and if it catches on enough, team leagues can include 2v2s in a more meaningful fashion, kinda like in war3

i will say following 4 players at once at the pace of sc2 can be quite stressful though
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ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
785 Posts
January 12 2023 08:11 GMT
#7
Absolutely. It's both interesting and refreshing, and I'm always interested to see my favorite games being played in different ways, not just one.
SpecKROELLchen
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany151 Posts
January 12 2023 09:12 GMT
#8
Yes, this would be great.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
January 12 2023 09:13 GMT
#9
Big yes after watching the recent 2v2 world team league.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 12 2023 11:40 GMT
#10
The 2v2 Tour of World Team League was fun. I would like to see more 2v2.
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1405 Posts
January 12 2023 12:12 GMT
#11
yes! last tournament was fun to watch
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
January 12 2023 12:33 GMT
#12
I would really like to see more of 2v2 tournement.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3486 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 14:25:19
January 12 2023 14:24 GMT
#13
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.
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bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary407 Posts
January 12 2023 14:28 GMT
#14
On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


I like this idea
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 12 2023 14:32 GMT
#15
2v2 is a very hard format to watch in SC2 properly, due to the very high speed of the game, i'd say - no

2v2 format is much better suited for the game like WAR3, it's slower, more micro-oriented, plus we have more possible matchups and it produces very interesting series frequently
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-12 14:38:52
January 12 2023 14:37 GMT
#16
On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


Couldn't disagree more.

Whenever this has happened (old Proleague in BW, most recent Nation Wars), 2v2 felt like a distraction from the 1v1 that people were primarily there to see.

I think forcing 2v2 into 1v1 events is what makes them seem "wacky," while standalone events with meaningful prizes is what helps them gain "legitimacy."
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3481 Posts
January 12 2023 15:01 GMT
#17
On January 12 2023 23:37 Waxangel wrote:
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On January 12 2023 23:24 ejozl wrote:
I would prefer if the standard team leagues had a 2v2 component in them. Because it legitimizes 2v2, rather than having wacky 2v2 tournament offshoots.


Couldn't disagree more.

Whenever this has happened (old Proleague in BW, most recent Nation Wars), 2v2 felt like a distraction from the 1v1 that people were primarily there to see.

I think forcing 2v2 into 1v1 events is what makes them seem "wacky," while standalone events with meaningful prizes is what helps them gain "legitimacy."

Have the Ace Match as 2v2, now that would be more "fun".
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
January 12 2023 23:39 GMT
#18
2v2, yes... but I'd like a BW 2v2 tournament even more.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 13 2023 00:25 GMT
#19
Yes, but it would necessitate a complete makeover of the 2v2 mappool.
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Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States850 Posts
January 13 2023 02:42 GMT
#20
On January 13 2023 09:25 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yes, but it would necessitate a complete makeover of the 2v2 mappool.


Makes me curious how maps with no shared(ish) bases would fair, something like Nautilus.

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No doubt the ability for 2 players to gang up on 1 could get out of control, but regardless I'd like to see it tested.


Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1918 Posts
January 14 2023 15:12 GMT
#21
On January 13 2023 09:25 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yes, but it would necessitate a complete makeover of the 2v2 mappool.


If only you knew.
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zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States316 Posts
January 14 2023 16:15 GMT
#22
voted neutral. i'm only interested because i like the personalities in the pro scene. if there was some masters league tier tournament and wardi and the other youtube boys had videos like, "look at this sick!! 2v2 strat" i would not click. i'm only interested in seeing more of the pros who ordinarily don't participate in small tournaments like maru, serral, bunny
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
January 14 2023 16:26 GMT
#23
2v2 is perfect for a gag side event (like that 8 player MLG) way back when.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19320 Posts
January 14 2023 16:57 GMT
#24
I want co-op commanders combined for team play. One player plays the rts portion while the four other players play commanders in a 5v5 competition. Team eSports get way more attention, so let’s do this!

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Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
January 14 2023 18:44 GMT
#25
On January 15 2023 01:26 Cricketer12 wrote:
2v2 is perfect for a gag side event (like that 8 player MLG) way back when.


Agreed
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