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TLnet Poll - Who is the best 'foreigner'?

Who is the best 'foreigner'? :

Stephano (17422)64%
NaNiwa (7175)27%
Other (2475)9%

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ElFiLaiNEN
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden16 Posts
July 18 2012 00:30 GMT
#1
NaNiwa imo. If Stephano shows himself in GSL, then maybe.
firebol59
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium1 Post
July 18 2012 00:35 GMT
#2
Stephano, no doubt
metharon
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden71 Posts
July 18 2012 00:36 GMT
#3
I have to give it to NaNi, despite Stephanos recent nasl win. Sure there were a few code s quality players at nasl, but NaNiwa has gotten to Ro8 Code s two seasons in a row now, and remember how close his series against DRG was.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 01:05:04
July 18 2012 00:36 GMT
#4
Stephano. May not have tried his hand at the gsl yet, but kicks Korean ass everywhere else and he's been doing it for longer. He usually looks the most impressive in play as well.

I'm glad Naniwa made the stupid complainers about the gsl seed shove it with consecutive ro8 finishes and almost beat the best ZvP out there in a bo5 in his weakest mu. Yes the gsl is the most prestigious tournament (maybe not so much anymore with the OSL starting up), and yes Koreans generally aren't as strong at foreign events, and yes Stepahno hasn't been tested as much in a preparation-environment.

However, it isn't like Stephano just did well against a few decent Koreans here and there in a handful of tournaments. No. He's been consistently putting out good games against many of the best Koreans in EVERY mu and even winning. I thought it was just fanboi praise initially, but over time I would have to agree that Stephano puts out better ZvP than almost any Korean Zerg save for the absolute best. I can't say the same for Naniwa in any mu, he just seems decent overall compared to the Koreans.

Finally, Stephano is more of a trendsetter in Zerg meta.

tl;dr

So really, it boils down to recent surge of success in a more prestigious tournament environment vs. numerous accomplishments in lesser tournaments against better opponents for what is going on for a year now.

Stephano wins easily.
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Iddqdish
Profile Joined March 2012
1 Post
July 18 2012 00:37 GMT
#5
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa
Renfield
Profile Joined August 2011
United States62 Posts
July 18 2012 00:41 GMT
#6
How could anyone vote for Stephano when Naniwa keeps making it super far in the GSL? Until Stephano does something like that all he has proven is he can sporadically beat Koreans.
OriginalBeast
Profile Joined September 2010
United States709 Posts
July 18 2012 00:42 GMT
#7
Thorzain...
More gg, more skill.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
July 18 2012 00:45 GMT
#8
On July 18 2012 09:37 Iddqdish wrote:
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa

Definitely this.
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
July 18 2012 00:47 GMT
#9
IDRA .. . all the way!
t to the redogz, tredogz
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
July 18 2012 00:53 GMT
#10
No doubt that it is Stephano. He would crush Naniwa.
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 18 2012 01:00 GMT
#11
Stephano for sure. He's looking great atm.
<3 bw
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
July 18 2012 01:02 GMT
#12
absolutely stephano. it was unreal how solid he was at nasl, taking out hero and mc~ (debatable best pvz players atm) not to mention alicia. sure naniwa's series vs drg was close, but i think that was more due to the fact that drg was caught off gaurd.
i love you
GAMENAMEHERE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States14 Posts
July 18 2012 01:05 GMT
#13
If Stephano can go that far in the GSL, I'll change my mind. Don't get me wrong, I love Stephano, but NASL winner < Code S player (consistantly).
(I've paid you a small fortune) "And you think this gives you power over me?" - Bane
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 18 2012 01:10 GMT
#14
Stephano and not even a close contest
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Fr0d0
Profile Joined May 2011
Belize37 Posts
July 18 2012 01:18 GMT
#15
Stephano for sure. Personal profit >> Code S player.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
July 18 2012 01:24 GMT
#16
It think this is a really good question as we have two players whose success have been different but are both consider to be the 'best' foreigner.

On one hand we have Stephano who has won multiple major tournaments this year.

On the other hand we have Naniwa, who has not won a major tournament yet (iirc) but has been to the GSL Ro8 twice.
kaisertoss
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
July 18 2012 01:25 GMT
#17
Why don't you rephrase as who you would want to see play more. Stephano by far.
hi
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 18 2012 01:26 GMT
#18
On July 18 2012 10:25 kaisertoss wrote:
Why don't you rephrase as who you would want to see play more. Stephano by far.

Because thats an entirely different question, not a "rephrase."

Voted Nani. Like other Nani-voters, I'm still waiting for Stephano to hit up GSL
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 01:34:02
July 18 2012 01:33 GMT
#19
Stephano because of race, but its really close.


On July 18 2012 09:37 Iddqdish wrote:
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa


and definitely need to take this into consideration as well.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 01:40:22
July 18 2012 01:36 GMT
#20
Why even compare? It makes no sense.

When stephano gets two Code S ro8 in a row we can start comparing apples and apples. It's not easy when youre alone against all the koreans in Seoul and "everyone" are trying to make you lose...

NANIWA > *

(also, Zerg is pretty good at the moment btw, you decide if thats relevant)
(:
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