EPTWho is the best 'foreigner'? - Page 23
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Coolhwip
Sweden1381 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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Typhoon1789
Australia292 Posts
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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Shinobi1982
1605 Posts
On July 24 2012 22:24 WiljushkA wrote: i dont know why people use the code s argument so much in favor of naniwa. im pretty sure stephano has beaten more code s players than him, despite not ever playing in the gsl. not to mention how much better his achievements are. How many times have you heard a high profile Korean GSL player say: "Ok now I'm going to practice for (insert random foreign tournament name)". On the rare occasion that does happen it's only because they are out of GSL for that season and they have some time to kill with lesser tournaments, with all due respect. So don't expect the top Koreans who are mainly focused on GSL to come to the foreign tournaments in the same shape as they would if they played GSL. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1098 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:29 Shinobi1982 wrote: How many times have you heard a high profile Korean GSL player say: "Ok now I'm going to practice for (insert random foreign tournament name)". On the rare occasion that does happen it's only because they are out of GSL for that season and they have some time to kill with lesser tournaments, with all due respect. So don't expect the top Koreans who are mainly focused on GSL to come to the foreign tournaments in the same shape as they would if they played GSL. Stephano's NASL run: - Hero, mid-low Code S level player, almost definitely prepared heavily for Stephano for his first round matchup... winning it would have guaranteed him at least $5k. - MC, mid-high Code S level player, already preparing for DRG (Zerg) in the Code S semis. Had to prep for Puma in first round, but I would hope he would have looked into both Hero and Stephano's specific style at least a little bit. When combined with his code S prep, he should have been in a pretty good position vs Zerg in general and vs Stephano specifically. He still managed to destroy DRG with very little practice time between flying back from NASL and his Code S semifinal match. - Alicia, recently surging player who is probably a high A level currently but failed the code A qualifiers before going on his recent run. Had a full day to prepare for only Stephano and hopefully put in some prep work for a potential semifinal matchup against Ret. Of the three, he was probably in the worst prepared shape vs Stephano and it showed in a complete 4-0 slaughter. In NASL alone, Stephano had two Code S Koreans with heavy prep work against him (or at least vs Zerg) and he beat them both. Not to mention that a lot of Korean Zergs now try to emulate Stephano's style, so it's not an unfamiliar style that only he does anymore. Naniwa has still not won an elimination round match in the GSL (Ro8+ or Code A). All of his wins are in Dual Brackets where each player needs to prepare for three opponents. His best defense is that he put up a good fight against DRG in a losing effort. A reasonable argument could be made that Stephano has faired better than Naniwa against prepared opponents from his NASL triumph alone. | ||
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
On July 25 2012 00:45 Burns wrote: As much as I want to say IdrA, It can really only be Naniwa at this point LOL? They're probably close, and I would bet on stephano in a 1v1 (just because of the favoured match ups of these two players). However unless he chooses to participate in the GSL then stephano should never have a claim to this title... | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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kingtut
United States359 Posts
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HEROwithNOlegacy
United States850 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On July 24 2012 14:52 Seoirse wrote: DRG is no longer the better ZvP player, and hasn't been for a while. Stephano is arguably top three overall in the world. Him, MC, and the last one is open to interpretation. This is why a lot of people don't like Stephano, cause some people get excited and say he is top 3 in the world. | ||
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Veriol
Czech Republic502 Posts
Even if naniwa would eventually become better player stephano just raped esports for 2 years made shit ton of money and had good time not even trying so hard.. Who is the winner here | ||
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
The guy who beat the GSL finalist a week and a half ago, the guy who has won the most money, the guy who has the most recent success, the guy who is the most consistent, the guy who did the best when they were both in Korea, the guy who the Koreans think is the best and the guy who keeps proving that you can be among the best in the world for your race without living in Korea. Yeah. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
his recent match vs MKP showed that | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
lol almost wrote europeans instead of koreans, that would been epic. | ||
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