• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:16
CET 00:16
KST 08:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread About SC2SEA.COM Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2210 users

Who is the best 'foreigner'? - Page 21

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 25 Next All
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
July 23 2012 07:48 GMT
#401
Stephano basically has success only on home court. He is playing in only foreign tournaments and while he may be beating some koreans there, they are playing in for the majority of cases unfamiliar situations. Naniwa on the other hand has made ro8 twice in the GSL this year. (to put that in perspective the only other players that have made 2 ro8s or farther this year are MC Parting Taeja and DRG) That task is vastly more impressive than Stephano winning a couple foreign tournaments.

(also aside from NASL what major tournament has Stephano won that had a lot of Koreans at it?)
QO Feasting
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
July 23 2012 08:01 GMT
#402
Nani is consistent as always, Stephano is getting figured out as seen this weekend. Hope he adjusts well and stays near the top, like Naniwa always does.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
July 23 2012 08:17 GMT
#403
On July 18 2012 09:36 metharon wrote:
I have to give it to NaNi, despite Stephanos recent nasl win. Sure there were a few code s quality players at nasl, but NaNiwa has gotten to Ro8 Code s two seasons in a row now, and remember how close his series against DRG was.

Stephano beat MC and HerO at NASL who both destroyed DRG
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
JordTehPwneR
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia10 Posts
July 23 2012 08:25 GMT
#404
Naniwa.

If Stephano was super good he would prove himself in the GSL and try and win it
what
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 09:31:08
July 23 2012 09:30 GMT
#405
Naniwa is the best.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Seanza
Profile Joined November 2011
171 Posts
July 23 2012 10:44 GMT
#406
I can't make the choice
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
July 23 2012 11:24 GMT
#407
21 page of "naniwa 2 Ro8 is better than anything".

yes winning 4 best of 3 in GSL twive make you the best player ever !
just lol.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2095 Posts
July 23 2012 12:46 GMT
#408
Stephano without a single hesitation. He crushes almost everyone with manner.
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Antares_
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 12:52:52
July 23 2012 12:52 GMT
#409
Stephano? He would get crushed in Code S. Just look at how he got stomped by Oz. He even said that he will play in GSTL but not GSL = he is scared he won't make it through the group stages.

Naniwa made it twice in a row to the Code S ro8, which is a big, big achievement. Not many players were able to do this. GSL is the world championships and until Stephano proves his skill in there, he will never be the best foreigner in my eyes.
If you make no mistake, yet still lose - you don't understand the game. Spiral out, keep going.
DjSweetBazz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden172 Posts
July 23 2012 13:29 GMT
#410
Until ninawa starts WINNING some major tournaments, It Will definitely be stephano
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
July 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#411
On July 23 2012 22:29 DjSweetBazz wrote:
Until ninawa starts WINNING some major tournaments, It Will definitely be stephano


Until Stephano starts playing in the only tournament that matters, Naniwa will definitely be the best.

Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
July 23 2012 15:26 GMT
#412
On July 23 2012 23:44 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 22:29 DjSweetBazz wrote:
Until ninawa starts WINNING some major tournaments, It Will definitely be stephano


Until Stephano starts playing in the only tournament that matters, Naniwa will definitely be the best.


only tournament that matters ROFL ... if its like that why there is other tournaments? MLG,NASL,DH .. stupid torunaments with no credit.
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Nelz
Profile Joined December 2011
309 Posts
July 23 2012 15:27 GMT
#413
Stephano wins NASL3, beating Hero, MC and Alicia, does not matter.

Stephano wins against Revival, Hero, Ryung then lost 4-1 against Oz, he will get crushed in GSL.

I see your logic here Stephano's haters.

Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
July 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#414
Naniwa imo.
Stephano is beating koreans aswell for sure and won NASL lately, BUT as long as he doesnt show himself in GSL this isn't really compareable, like comparing Championsleague to normal country leagues.
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
July 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#415
Thanks Sakray, you were right.
rivurivurivurivu
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden140 Posts
July 23 2012 15:37 GMT
#416
nani, hands down
gls is the tournament to play.
Stephano is a good solid player but I really think he will have a hard time in the gsl when all the koreans have the time to study him.
preparation, dedication and courage are things needed for the gsl not only skills.
big shout out to every foreigner in korea!
keep fighting guys !
teuvohakkarainen
Profile Joined January 2012
1 Post
July 23 2012 15:40 GMT
#417
Naama.
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 16:07:03
July 23 2012 16:06 GMT
#418
On July 24 2012 00:29 Luisa_2 wrote:
Naniwa imo.
Stephano is beating koreans aswell for sure and won NASL lately, BUT as long as he doesnt show himself in GSL this isn't really compareable, like comparing Championsleague to normal country leagues.


So if Stephano from now on went 2-0 vs all the best players in the world in all tournaments except GSL, it still wouldn't matter? Your argument isn't a good one, of course results in other tournaments matter. It's kinda like saying Messi isn't the best player in the world until he's had some results in a world cup. (maybe not the best analogy but you can see my point?)
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
July 23 2012 16:12 GMT
#419
Drifting mildly off-topic, whatever did happen to that $5000 (of their own money) Stephano V Naniwa grudge match? I guess with Naniwa been in Korea and training heavily for GSL it just wasn't viable?
Anderlicious
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden5 Posts
July 23 2012 16:19 GMT
#420
IdrA all the way!
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #59
CranKy Ducklings27
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group D
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
ZZZero.O259
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 230
Ketroc 28
DisKSc2 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 284
ZZZero.O 259
yabsab 8
Dota 2
Pyrionflax187
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 355
Counter-Strike
fl0m1383
kRYSTAL_112
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox565
AZ_Axe68
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor184
Other Games
tarik_tv10749
gofns7977
Grubby4875
ToD128
Maynarde93
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV914
gamesdonequick775
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• RyuSc2 50
• davetesta35
• musti20045 25
• HeavenSC 22
• Adnapsc2 5
• OhrlRock 1
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21610
• Ler78
League of Legends
• Doublelift3024
Other Games
• imaqtpie1676
• Shiphtur283
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
12h 44m
Monday Night Weeklies
17h 44m
Replay Cast
23h 44m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 12h
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
IPSL
6 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.