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Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
July 21 2012 15:55 GMT
#361
Nerchio needs to be on this list. He doesn't go to as many events as Stephano, but he's better probably.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
July 21 2012 16:00 GMT
#362
WHERE IS THIS 10K SHOWMATCH FFS SETTLE THE DISPUTE
Hudson Valley Progamer
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
July 21 2012 16:02 GMT
#363
On July 22 2012 00:55 Chvol wrote:
Nerchio needs to be on this list. He doesn't go to as many events as Stephano, but he's better probably.


I don't think he's better yet. He may have the potential to be better, but Stephano has the results right now
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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
July 21 2012 16:04 GMT
#364
On July 19 2012 20:09 Keelshing wrote:
This poll might as well just be "Who do you like more?" Im sure not many people here actually look at stats, they just use their preference.


When Stephano gets Ro8 in GSL twice in a row, let me know.


You win for the most offbase post. Stephano is #1 over everyone in Internatinoal Elo. You get to #1 in Elo by beating better players, more consistently, than everyone else, including DRG, MKP, Naniwa, etc. If you combined the Korean and the International databases, I can't say for certain he'd still be number one but he very well may be, and he woudl be significantly higher ranked than Naniwa, even though he's had two good GSL runs. Also he's #10 overall (when I checked last week) in zvz in terms of Elo. Everyone, not just you, needs to stop over-stating how "bad" he is in the matchup. In the past month, he's beaten nerchio twice and beaten violet. He's also lost to Cytoplasm in four straight (lol), which goes to show he's inconsistent -- not terrible.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
July 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#365
Did the guy who made that poll up really think we would avoid stupid " gsl vs international tournaments " debates and that kind of thing ? :/
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 18:20:00
July 21 2012 18:12 GMT
#366
stephano hands down
EDIT : pretty ridiculous that people say that naniwa is better because he made it to ro8 twice in a row. Stephano gets at least top 6 in every tournament he enters and he consistently beat code s top tier players. Why do we care if he beats them in korea or in the US. Stephano is already better and he will be even better than everyone else once he goes to korea.
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 21 2012 20:23 GMT
#367
this is like comparing a guy who wins a bunch of minor league titles with a guy who does very well in the major leagues.

Don't know who said it but:

"If you want to be the best, you have to play with the best."

Naniwa fasho. Stephano still hasn't prove himself in the only arena that matters to me.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#368
On July 22 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
stephano hands down
EDIT : pretty ridiculous that people say that naniwa is better because he made it to ro8 twice in a row. Stephano gets at least top 6 in every tournament he enters and he consistently beat code s top tier players. Why do we care if he beats them in korea or in the US. Stephano is already better and he will be even better than everyone else once he goes to korea.



Until Stephano goes to Korea and shows us what he's made of, there's no fucking way in hell you can say he's better than someone who made it to ro8 twice in a row in the most competitive and difficult tournament in the world, just no fucking way. Not to mention he also won an MLG arena and made it to finals in an MLG, what's the best Stephano has done in MLG lol?

All Stephano has to show for himself is a couple of win in minor tournaments here and there, hardly anything to brag about really.

Long story short, your bias is more than obvious, if it was Naniwa who was the french player you wouldn't even think twice to say that he's the better player.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 21 2012 23:08 GMT
#369
Naniwa would have beaten Oz and Ryung at MLG.

Just sayin
ipod5412
Profile Joined March 2012
3 Posts
July 22 2012 01:17 GMT
#370
On July 22 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
stephano hands down
EDIT : pretty ridiculous that people say that naniwa is better because he made it to ro8 twice in a row. Stephano gets at least top 6 in every tournament he enters and he consistently beat code s top tier players. Why do we care if he beats them in korea or in the US. Stephano is already better and he will be even better than everyone else once he goes to korea.



Until Stephano goes to Korea and shows us what he's made of, there's no fucking way in hell you can say he's better than someone who made it to ro8 twice in a row in the most competitive and difficult tournament in the world, just no fucking way. Not to mention he also won an MLG arena and made it to finals in an MLG, what's the best Stephano has done in MLG lol?

All Stephano has to show for himself is a couple of win in minor tournaments here and there, hardly anything to brag about really.

Long story short, your bias is more than obvious, if it was Naniwa who was the french player you wouldn't even think twice to say that he's the better player.



Stephano beat MC in nasl 3. He won gsl 2 times. STEPHANO IS EZ BETTER THAN TEH BANANNIWA
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
July 22 2012 05:15 GMT
#371
On July 18 2012 09:41 Renfield wrote:
How could anyone vote for Stephano when Naniwa keeps making it super far in the GSL? Until Stephano does something like that all he has proven is he can sporadically beat Koreans.


tell me what happened last time stephano went to korea and jumped straight into games vs the top koreans (remembering naniwa was ALSO there in the same blizzard cup)
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
July 22 2012 05:16 GMT
#372
On July 22 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
stephano hands down
EDIT : pretty ridiculous that people say that naniwa is better because he made it to ro8 twice in a row. Stephano gets at least top 6 in every tournament he enters and he consistently beat code s top tier players. Why do we care if he beats them in korea or in the US. Stephano is already better and he will be even better than everyone else once he goes to korea.



Until Stephano goes to Korea and shows us what he's made of, there's no fucking way in hell you can say he's better than someone who made it to ro8 twice in a row in the most competitive and difficult tournament in the world, just no fucking way. Not to mention he also won an MLG arena and made it to finals in an MLG, what's the best Stephano has done in MLG lol?

All Stephano has to show for himself is a couple of win in minor tournaments here and there, hardly anything to brag about really.

Long story short, your bias is more than obvious, if it was Naniwa who was the french player you wouldn't even think twice to say that he's the better player.


after reading your first sentence, i stopped reading...bc he did go to korea for blizzard up. rmb how many games naniwa won in the blizzard cup?
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
July 22 2012 05:41 GMT
#373
Naniwa.
hi. big fan.
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
July 22 2012 07:52 GMT
#374
Stephano's just more consistent, no questions asked.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
July 22 2012 09:13 GMT
#375
Suppy best foreigner
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klniceajer
Profile Joined February 2012
Malaysia14 Posts
July 22 2012 10:57 GMT
#376
The only Stephano didn't do was beating a Korean of their own homeground .
WAZZZUPPP
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
July 22 2012 11:22 GMT
#377
The only Stephano didn't do was beating a Korean of their own homeground .


Sure stomping korean Ladder in korea, is not good enought. and blizzard cup matches doesnt count.

Naniwa is in GSL only because GOM need foreigner.
RO8 twice.... just lol. I root for him every time he play in GSL, but Ro8 is what ? win 4 BO3 ? yes sure anyone who can win 4 Bo3 in GSL is surely better than any other player in the world....
It's funny because after all argument, stephano is still 65 %.
democratic win.


if stephano play in GSL someday, it's the same, they got here by seed not code A / B / qualifier.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
nilleftw
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany11 Posts
July 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#378
Stephano >>> Naniwa
Proxan
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 12:50:09
July 22 2012 12:49 GMT
#379
Until Stephano does 2 Code S Ro8s in a row (or equivalent) Nani is the best foreigner.
Proxan
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden16 Posts
July 22 2012 12:51 GMT
#380
On July 22 2012 20:22 zedrOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
The only Stephano didn't do was beating a Korean of their own homeground .


Sure stomping korean Ladder in korea, is not good enought. and blizzard cup matches doesnt count.

Naniwa is in GSL only because GOM need foreigner.
RO8 twice.... just lol. I root for him every time he play in GSL, but Ro8 is what ? win 4 BO3 ? yes sure anyone who can win 4 Bo3 in GSL is surely better than any other player in the world....
It's funny because after all argument, stephano is still 65 %.
democratic win.


if stephano play in GSL someday, it's the same, they got here by seed not code A / B / qualifier.


So you think that what the majority THINKS is the actual truth? Wow. Logic thinking much?
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