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TLnet Poll - When playing ladder do you prefer...

When playing ladder do you prefer... :

one on one mode with higher security (440)59%
melee mode with reps watchable by more that two (300)41%

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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 11 2007 14:56 GMT
#1
if watching reps in groups, go to a non-ladder server, right? might be a small hassle but higher security is nice
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 11 2007 14:57 GMT
#2
I mean that ladder games are only watchable by two people, because the replay only has two slots (created in one on one mode).
ModeratorGodfather
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
February 11 2007 15:03 GMT
#3
What's the purpose of "higher security"?

I don't care if the other guy MHs, really. I just won't game him again if he finds out. And since I know most of the people I game, I don't get that problem.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 11 2007 15:05 GMT
#4
On February 11 2007 23:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
I mean that ladder games are only watchable by two people, because the replay only has two slots (created in one on one mode).

ew shit nvm melee mode for sure
Dewrain
Profile Joined February 2006
Poland25 Posts
February 11 2007 15:09 GMT
#5
one on one mode with higher security

This is one and only way for good ladder
dEwRaiN_IhF
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 11 2007 15:19 GMT
#6
On February 12 2007 00:03 Last Romantic wrote:
What's the purpose of "higher security"?

I don't care if the other guy MHs, really. I just won't game him again if he finds out. And since I know most of the people I game, I don't get that problem.


It isnt about map hack, it is about abusing for wins, a far larger problem for any ladder.

For a frame of reference, pgt was one on one only.
ModeratorGodfather
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-11 16:07:09
February 11 2007 16:01 GMT
#7
if it is possible to secure people that can write them, there have been programs in the past that open slots for replays. one on one mode games could be watched by a full house.

as it is, i would still prefer melee mode because a lot of the fun in ladders at the average level is showing off your cool wins to your friends or showing them losses asking for advice. also, what if the players have mannered observers? lessened security but more trust and freedom seems like it would help the ladder overall, since the accumulation of little turnoffs and annoyances are what in the end make many people quit playing, not the game itself. the downside is that (i'm not sure about this, but maybe quite) a bit more stress and need for moderation will be placed on the administrators.

a sensible course of action could be to at first use one-on-one mode until the early stages of hectic organization are sorted out, and then begin to implement melee mode and user conveniences once everything has settled down.

of course if there are massive differences in security and ability to abuse i would vote one-on-one, but i am not aware of any.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 11 2007 16:26 GMT
#8
One on One mode its better. Why would the fact that you couldn't show a full house your replays make you want melee. And like someone said there is the replay slot maker which would allow it anyway.
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Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
February 11 2007 16:55 GMT
#9
One on one + revive the old replays slot maker
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
February 11 2007 19:13 GMT
#10
one on one, the only way to go for a ladder
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december-
Profile Joined February 2007
Romania76 Posts
February 11 2007 19:18 GMT
#11
one on one plz; PGT style much better for skill

+ if its one on one with no replays then koreans will play. even semi-pros.
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
February 11 2007 19:36 GMT
#12
On February 12 2007 01:55 Catyoul wrote:
One on one + revive the old replays slot maker
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 11 2007 20:03 GMT
#13
On February 12 2007 01:55 Catyoul wrote:
One on one + revive the old replays slot maker

definitely. it would be nice if the slot maker got integrated into bwlauncher
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
February 11 2007 22:34 GMT
#14
one on one
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
February 11 2007 22:54 GMT
#15
melee, as long as we have good ladder mods and really swift bansticks =D
pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5399 Posts
February 11 2007 23:01 GMT
#16
One on one. I've never shown a replay to more than one person in my life.
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Qi.TiGeR
Profile Joined January 2007
Bangladesh78 Posts
February 11 2007 23:22 GMT
#17
one on one.
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Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
February 11 2007 23:29 GMT
#18
more security in one on ones, obviously
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
Muell
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany89 Posts
February 11 2007 23:41 GMT
#19
melee is nice for obs but i think it would produce too many problems with people accusing others of proobsing
so 1-1 only
best sc:bw player alive: IPXZerg aka sAviOr
Commentator
Profile Joined February 2007
United States43 Posts
February 11 2007 23:44 GMT
#20
It seems like a question of whose convenience is more important: ladder admins (anti-abuse work) or users (showing replays). I can't imagine users refusing to play a ladder because the replays are not socially apt, but I can imagine a ladder's administration having burnout problems, etc, due to a higher workload. My suggestion would be to at least start with 1on1 mode for ease of operation and if everything is going nicely, introduce melee later. If it's not easy to switch between 1on1 and melee, I'd still suggest going with 1on1.

However the best solution would be to bring back slot maker as I think a lot of people have been missing that anyway.
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