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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 08 2009 06:38 GMT
#21
On June 08 2009 15:14 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 14:25 Sunhay wrote:
hey guys, ive added a few things to the mainpage, lemme know what you think http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:Sunhay .


Sweet.

Used it as the front page!


Thanks sunhay
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 06:40:47
June 08 2009 06:40 GMT
#22
On June 08 2009 14:48 jingXD wrote:
Would it be possible to have a dedicated link in the sidebar for a "progamers" section in addition to all the strategy links? I think it would be nice to include info a la http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33197.


Yes, but the progamers section isn't yet filled out enough yet to merit the sidebar link. That's next on the list after we get the strategy section to a satisfactory level.


Also, I think the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Suggestions_for_Content link should appear in the sidebar with the link to this feedback thread.


We have a to-do list for this, so I deleted the article.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 08 2009 07:48 GMT
#23
On June 08 2009 15:07 Kau wrote:
Is there any unit page with "everything" in it that I can use as a template to make all other unit pages alike?

The best two, in my opinion, are the Carrier and the Arbiter
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Carrier
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Arbiter

On June 08 2009 14:48 jingXD wrote:
Would it be possible to have a dedicated link in the sidebar for a "progamers" section in addition to all the strategy links? I think it would be nice to include info a la http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33197.

Also, I think the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Suggestions_for_Content link should appear in the sidebar with the link to this feedback thread.

We'll end up putting progamers up when we have a few more done. Not quite sure what your mean by your last comment though?
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Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
June 08 2009 08:20 GMT
#24
On June 08 2009 15:40 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 14:48 jingXD wrote:
Would it be possible to have a dedicated link in the sidebar for a "progamers" section in addition to all the strategy links? I think it would be nice to include info a la http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33197.


Yes, but the progamers section isn't yet filled out enough yet to merit the sidebar link. That's next on the list after we get the strategy section to a satisfactory level.

Show nested quote +

Also, I think the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Suggestions_for_Content link should appear in the sidebar with the link to this feedback thread.


We have a to-do list for this, so I deleted the article.


You can view the players category for now:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Category:Players
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
June 08 2009 09:06 GMT
#25
Or you can even start on this page.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starcraft_Players_(Korea)
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 08 2009 09:54 GMT
#26
On June 08 2009 18:06 Highways wrote:
Or you can even start on this page.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starcraft_Players_(Korea)


Um - I thought it was agreed we'd be using my photos for this. The Bisu and Luxury articles are using Fifo/Fomos work.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
June 08 2009 10:31 GMT
#27
lol those articles were made last year :p
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 08 2009 11:46 GMT
#28
On June 08 2009 19:31 Highways wrote:
lol those articles were made last year :p


Oops I totally didn't notice. Well I think it's already been agreed on that due to Fomos/Fifo permission rules etc my photos will be used for the new ones.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 13:26:26
June 08 2009 13:17 GMT
#29
argh! I've been going through articles fixing minor things, and I'm at a loss about what to do about punctuation. In build orders, it seems but that it would be frivolous to add periods behind every step, but then longer sentences have them. The style guide only says that proper punctuation should be used.

On another note, is there going to be a style guide for talk pages? The original wikipedia has little sections in them, which really helps in keeping it organized, rather than just having a wall of text.

EDIT: nevermind, I found it! (The talk pages thing, not punctuation.)
fuck yeah zerglings!
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
June 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#30
Hmm, currently I'm editing (creating?) some information in the units usage sections. At least until my boss figures out I'm editing Liquipedia instead of working!
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 08 2009 14:46 GMT
#31
On June 08 2009 22:17 virLudens wrote:
argh! I've been going through articles fixing minor things, and I'm at a loss about what to do about punctuation. In build orders, it seems but that it would be frivolous to add periods behind every step, but then longer sentences have them. The style guide only says that proper punctuation should be used.

On another note, is there going to be a style guide for talk pages? The original wikipedia has little sections in them, which really helps in keeping it organized, rather than just having a wall of text.

EDIT: nevermind, I found it! (The talk pages thing, not punctuation.)


There is no talk page punctuation/style guide, as we haven't really figured out how to use it yet. We were kind of expecting one of a few things to happen:

1) talk pages work themselves out, and then suddenly everyone can use those to discuss things (community development)

2) the strategy section gets used to talk over the modern variations of the specific builds (at a high level hopefully). We haven't really figured out the interplay between the strategy section and liquipedia

3) people just make edits, and never use the talk pages. If the mods/admins see an edit war and/or get a PM about it, we protect/lock the page, and then pm chill/ver/oystein or start a strat forum thread about it.

One of the above will happen I think - everyone is just figuring it out. If you use wikipedia as an example, their talk pages tend to be disorganized as well (although to be fair, overall they're also covering slightly less technical topics).
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lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
June 08 2009 15:19 GMT
#32
In the Zerg vs Terran page under the first branch I saw

Initial Build Order
The initial build order listed here is the most common 9 Pool Build
9 - Overlord
9 - Spawning Pool
8 - Drone
9 - Extractor
8 - Drone
9 - Cancel Extractor
@100% Spawning Pool - 6 Zerglings


Is this really the correct BO? Since if you Overpool the overlord usually finishes right after you've build the 9th drone after placing the Spawning Pool.
Flying Tushin!!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 08 2009 15:43 GMT
#33
On June 09 2009 00:19 lgd-Haze wrote:
In the Zerg vs Terran page under the first branch I saw

Show nested quote +
Initial Build Order
The initial build order listed here is the most common 9 Pool Build
9 - Overlord
9 - Spawning Pool
8 - Drone
9 - Extractor
8 - Drone
9 - Cancel Extractor
@100% Spawning Pool - 6 Zerglings


Is this really the correct BO? Since if you Overpool the overlord usually finishes right after you've build the 9th drone after placing the Spawning Pool.


A) the talk/discussion pages are good for this
B) uhhh..dunno about the correctness >.> Go ahead and fix it if you think that it should be fixed, and hopefully someone more knowledgeable about zerg than me will review it.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 21:15:56
June 08 2009 16:46 GMT
#34
General talk format (I think):
--~~~~ shows your username, there's a button to add it

== Issue 1 ==
Point 1 --~~~~
:Reply 1 to Point 1 --~~~~
:Reply 2 to Point 1 --~~~~
Point 2 --~~~~
:Reply to Point 2 --~~~~
::Reply to reply --~~~~
Point 3 --~~~~

== Issue 2 ==
etc

edit: Fixed
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liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
June 08 2009 16:57 GMT
#35
looks like there's a style guide for the talk pages hidden inside of help
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Help:Discussion_Pages

I've been using this for the discussion pages, it looks like it'll work out fine
fuck yeah zerglings!
liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
June 08 2009 17:14 GMT
#36
Can I add a section about lists to the style guide?

Right now the formatting of lists (of maps, of counters, etc.) is unclear, and it would be nice to have a solid thing to reference to, specifically periods at the ends of sentences.
fuck yeah zerglings!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 08 2009 17:23 GMT
#37
On June 09 2009 02:14 virLudens wrote:
Can I add a section about lists to the style guide?

Right now the formatting of lists (of maps, of counters, etc.) is unclear, and it would be nice to have a solid thing to reference to, specifically periods at the ends of sentences.


IRC channel #liquipedia

riptide, mikeymoo, and aesop are the point guys for the style stuff.

If you don't want to ask them on IRC, PM them - they'll be happy to help.
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AeTheReal
Profile Joined June 2009
United States108 Posts
June 08 2009 18:13 GMT
#38
A few things...

Unlocked Tech vs Upgrades Available
These should be separate listings for buildings right? Some buildings have units that they unlock and upgrades that can be researched there listed together under Unlocked Tech. I think they should be separated out. The way I see it, Unlocked Tech should be units, buildings, and upgrades (at other buildings) unlocked by having this building. Upgrades Available should be all upgrades researched at this particular building.

Basic Upgrades Prerequisites
Also, tech requirements for level 2+ upgrades for weapons and armor is mentioned for Protoss upgrades but are not for Zerg or Terran upgrades. Is mentioning tech requirements for this necessary? Regardless, I'd recommend removing that info from the infobox area since it adds clutter.

Units/Buildings Infobox Data
...should probably both be updated so they can display supply provided and attack data. Overlords don't display that they provide 8 control in the infobox and photon cannons and such don't display their attack data there either.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 08 2009 18:35 GMT
#39
On June 09 2009 03:13 AeTheReal wrote:
A few things...

Unlocked Tech vs Upgrades Available
These should be separate listings for buildings right? Some buildings have units that they unlock and upgrades that can be researched there listed together under Unlocked Tech. I think they should be separated out. The way I see it, Unlocked Tech should be units, buildings, and upgrades (at other buildings) unlocked by having this building. Upgrades Available should be all upgrades researched at this particular building.

Basic Upgrades Prerequisites
Also, tech requirements for level 2+ upgrades for weapons and armor is mentioned for Protoss upgrades but are not for Zerg or Terran upgrades. Is mentioning tech requirements for this necessary? Regardless, I'd recommend removing that info from the infobox area since it adds clutter.

Units/Buildings Infobox Data
...should probably both be updated so they can display supply provided and attack data. Overlords don't display that they provide 8 control in the infobox and photon cannons and such don't display their attack data there either.

Yes, yes, and yes. Fix what you can, and any infobox stuff we'll take a look at.
Use the talk pages if you want to talk about specific articles.
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AeTheReal
Profile Joined June 2009
United States108 Posts
June 08 2009 18:55 GMT
#40
On June 09 2009 03:35 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 03:13 AeTheReal wrote:
A few things...

Unlocked Tech vs Upgrades Available
These should be separate listings for buildings right? Some buildings have units that they unlock and upgrades that can be researched there listed together under Unlocked Tech. I think they should be separated out. The way I see it, Unlocked Tech should be units, buildings, and upgrades (at other buildings) unlocked by having this building. Upgrades Available should be all upgrades researched at this particular building.

Basic Upgrades Prerequisites
Also, tech requirements for level 2+ upgrades for weapons and armor is mentioned for Protoss upgrades but are not for Zerg or Terran upgrades. Is mentioning tech requirements for this necessary? Regardless, I'd recommend removing that info from the infobox area since it adds clutter.

Units/Buildings Infobox Data
...should probably both be updated so they can display supply provided and attack data. Overlords don't display that they provide 8 control in the infobox and photon cannons and such don't display their attack data there either.

Yes, yes, and yes. Fix what you can, and any infobox stuff we'll take a look at.
Use the talk pages if you want to talk about specific articles.



Roger that.

Wikia.com has a Starcraft wiki if anyone doesn't know already. I like how they show that an attack is which attack type by a single letter. This is probably the most elegant way of conveying damage type info. Writing the entire word "Explosive" or "Splash" in the infobox is too messy. See link below for example.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Siege_tank_(StarCraft)
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