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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 09 2009 07:08 GMT
#61
I think it should be under romanized name, but could ids redirect to it?
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 07:14:04
June 09 2009 07:13 GMT
#62
you can redirect anything to anything- right now, we're using TLPD as the basis of the whole naming scheme.

One exception to the TLPD names - Yellow[arnc] will be found under Yarnc, because liquipedia doesn't allow for the brackets [] in the titles. If you guys have a better suggestion for this, or have other gamers that need different id's, tell me ^^
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 09 2009 07:16 GMT
#63
On June 09 2009 12:55 Cali wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 12:40 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On June 09 2009 12:22 Cali wrote:
Need a discussion on format of Bo's pages

I was going though them and just about all of them seemed to have been done by 3-4 with different formats I was thinking of going though and making them all
{{Infobox_Strategy
|name=
|race=
|type=Opening Build
|image=
|caption=
|matchups=
|creator=
|popularized=
}}
==Overview==
==Build Order==
==Build Order Clarification==
==Mentality==
==Transition==
==Countered By==
===Hard Counters===
===Soft Counters===
==Counter To==
===Hard Counters===
===Soft Counters===
==Notable Maps==
===Strong===
===Weak===
==Notable Games==
===Replays===
===VOD's===
[[Category:Strategies]]
I thought that this order would be best; as most put mentality at the bottom but my guess it would be best after the Bo explanation or after overview.

The thing not being consistent is pissing me off.


Ironic, as all of our work was trying to get this stuff consistent. The actual guides thing should be in the help pages.

the strategy guide should be:

{{Infobox_Strategy
|name=
|race=
|type=Opening Build
|image=
|caption=
|matchups=
|creator=
|popularized=
}}
==Overview==
==Build Order==
===Build Order Clarification (if necessary, optional section)===
==Mentality==
==Transition==
==Countered By==
==Counter To==
==Notable Maps==
===Strong===
===Weak===
==Notable Games==
[[Category:Strategies]]

The above is the most recent iteration, but we didn't have time to really get all of the articles exactly consistent. This is what I spent most of my time on, so PM me if you have any more structure questions.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Help:Organization_of_Guide_Pages
found it haha T_T took awhile and is dated.
Clerical work is something I've done scene high school.


I just changed the link above, although I'm going to need to give it a new readthrough to fix inconsistencies that have arisen (next week after finals).

I also need to fix the ZvT guide to match the ZvP guide - it needs a whole rewrite. No one has wanted to touch those for some reason or another though.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 09 2009 07:28 GMT
#64
On June 09 2009 16:13 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
you can redirect anything to anything- right now, we're using TLPD as the basis of the whole naming scheme.

One exception to the TLPD names - Yellow[arnc] will be found under Yarnc, because liquipedia doesn't allow for the brackets [] in the titles. If you guys have a better suggestion for this, or have other gamers that need different id's, tell me ^^


I hope Shine[Kal] doesn't breakout and win a starleague soon then.
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Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:09:06
June 09 2009 07:44 GMT
#65
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11289 Posts
June 09 2009 08:50 GMT
#66
On June 09 2009 16:13 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
you can redirect anything to anything- right now, we're using TLPD as the basis of the whole naming scheme.

One exception to the TLPD names - Yellow[arnc] will be found under Yarnc, because liquipedia doesn't allow for the brackets [] in the titles. If you guys have a better suggestion for this, or have other gamers that need different id's, tell me ^^

We have Yellow as "YellOwArnC" I think. Convention will change it to Yellowarnc, but I think that's really the best way to handle it.

Same with the entire [Shield] or [gm] stuff I am afraid, just omit the brackets. And only add them to player names if they are needed for distinction (e.g. Bisu[shield] is superfluous, Sea[Shield] might be needed due to the amount of Sea.InsertMyfavoriteToy players, etc.)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 09 2009 10:30 GMT
#67
On June 09 2009 15:06 p4NDemik wrote:
I'm starting to edit player articles now, and I just have to say it feels strange that the articles are titled according to their gaming ID's. Especially if we're going to be fleshing out the player bio sections, it feels like the articles should be titled by their Romanized Names. For example, BoxeR's page, linked above, first establishes BoxeR with his Romanized name, then says he is "known by the pseudonym SlayerS_`BoxeR`."

I definitely think we should be using their gaming alias. All over TL we use this alias to identify players and without it we are lost. For instance if i say Park Ji Ho just went mass zealots and raped that noob! No one has a clue about what I'm talking about. However, replace Park Ji Ho with Pusan and we get, Pusan just went mass zealots and raped that noob! and now everyone knows who exactly I'm talking about. Both should be available, but imo we should use the current conventions and not try and revolutionize the status quo.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 09 2009 11:34 GMT
#68
The majority of the users (myself included) don't know more than maybe 5-10 real player names
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Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
June 09 2009 11:55 GMT
#69
Will there be a section about the tourneys and leagues(PL, OSL, MSL, WCG etc)?
Liquipedia
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 09 2009 12:06 GMT
#70
On June 09 2009 20:55 Jonvvv wrote:
Will there be a section about the tourneys and leagues(PL, OSL, MSL, WCG etc)?

There are plans for those!
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 09 2009 12:31 GMT
#71
ARGH - my website address is www.nevergg.net - stop using fomos' photos!

Just kidding, but seriously. If fomos sees it - Mr. Shim will probably pitch a fit.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 09 2009 12:37 GMT
#72
everyone can upload pictures...
I haven't yet reviewed any picture uploads and I don't know who did, but when you see a picture that should be replaced by one of yours feel free to do so, you must know what is in your collection better than anyone else
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 09 2009 13:42 GMT
#73
my feedbak is that i love u all!
ggyo...
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11289 Posts
June 09 2009 14:37 GMT
#74
On June 09 2009 21:31 NeverGG wrote:
ARGH - my website address is www.nevergg.net - stop using fomos' photos!

Just kidding, but seriously. If fomos sees it - Mr. Shim will probably pitch a fit.

I will write up a basic guide to player articles tonight I guess, including the hint about photos. Hope that helps
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 09 2009 14:43 GMT
#75
On June 09 2009 23:37 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 21:31 NeverGG wrote:
ARGH - my website address is www.nevergg.net - stop using fomos' photos!

Just kidding, but seriously. If fomos sees it - Mr. Shim will probably pitch a fit.

I will write up a basic guide to player articles tonight I guess, including the hint about photos. Hope that helps


Since anyone can upload photos, i'm not sure how it would help.

Should we not be approving any fomos photos at all? (we'll switch to the tiny tlpd photos or screencaps or something if it's necessary).
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:09:55
June 09 2009 16:12 GMT
#76
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Sublimis
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden70 Posts
June 09 2009 16:34 GMT
#77
I think there should be a difference between a strategy and a build order post. A build order can contain strategies but a strategy should not be a build order. Example of strategies that are not build orders but still show up as such:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Counter_to_Arbiter_Play
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Late_Game_Terran_vs._Protoss

Also I think there should be a different taxonomy of build orders overall. Check out the talk page here in what I propose:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Talk:Terran_vs._Protoss_Guide
Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:10:00
June 09 2009 20:05 GMT
#78
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 09 2009 23:04 GMT
#79
On June 09 2009 23:43 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 23:37 Aesop wrote:
On June 09 2009 21:31 NeverGG wrote:
ARGH - my website address is www.nevergg.net - stop using fomos' photos!

Just kidding, but seriously. If fomos sees it - Mr. Shim will probably pitch a fit.

I will write up a basic guide to player articles tonight I guess, including the hint about photos. Hope that helps


Since anyone can upload photos, i'm not sure how it would help.

Should we not be approving any fomos photos at all? (we'll switch to the tiny tlpd photos or screencaps or something if it's necessary).


Well you don't have copyright permission to host them and I know wiki is really strict about that kind of thing - whereas I've given full permission for all mine to be uploaded (which is surely better than using the tlpd shots/screencaps right?) ^_^ I just think it'd be crap if it ended up having to all be redone because the correct permissions aren't in place.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11289 Posts
June 10 2009 07:25 GMT
#80
On June 10 2009 08:04 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 23:43 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On June 09 2009 23:37 Aesop wrote:
On June 09 2009 21:31 NeverGG wrote:
ARGH - my website address is www.nevergg.net - stop using fomos' photos!

Just kidding, but seriously. If fomos sees it - Mr. Shim will probably pitch a fit.

I will write up a basic guide to player articles tonight I guess, including the hint about photos. Hope that helps


Since anyone can upload photos, i'm not sure how it would help.

Should we not be approving any fomos photos at all? (we'll switch to the tiny tlpd photos or screencaps or something if it's necessary).


Well you don't have copyright permission to host them and I know wiki is really strict about that kind of thing - whereas I've given full permission for all mine to be uploaded (which is surely better than using the tlpd shots/screencaps right?) ^_^ I just think it'd be crap if it ended up having to all be redone because the correct permissions aren't in place.

Ok, news is on frontpage and on http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Player_Biography_Resources#What_Pictures_to_use , I hope that gets the message across.
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