EPTThe why was my thread closed topic - Page 25
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On January 11 2011 06:01 Hot_Bid wrote: We don't allow a fan club thread for a streamer who has urged his viewers to spam our forums. I think that is pretty fair. I said this several pages back yet Destiny's fans keep saying we have some vast conspiracy against him. The only reason he's not featured and doesn't have a fan club (he was featured before, iirc) was the result of his own and his fans actions. Again, I do not see what is so unfair about not featuring a stream that encourages many people to spam and harass other users on our website. How can anyone disagree with that? | ||
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TheBrofessor
Canada429 Posts
On January 17 2011 03:46 Hot_Bid wrote: I said this several pages back yet Destiny's fans keep saying we have some vast conspiracy against him. The only reason he's not featured and doesn't have a fan club (he was featured before, iirc) was the result of his own and his fans actions. Again, I do not see what is so unfair about not featuring a stream that encourages many people to spam and harass other users on our website. How can anyone disagree with that? Destiny was getting vast amounts of viewers before that incident, and had been streaming since the release of the beta, so i find it a bit hard to believe that something that happened so recently is the sole reason why he isn't featured. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:07 TheBrofessor wrote: Destiny was getting vast amounts of viewers before that incident, and had been streaming since the release of the beta, so i find it a bit hard to believe that something that happened so recently is the sole reason why he isn't featured. You find it hard to believe that when someone does something that is a usual permanent ban that they would not be featured? It's not like, oh he just encouraged hundreds of people to spam and harass and trash our forums, no big deal. I don't think you understand how seriously we take something like this. The whole incident is still fairly recent, and he was very close to being featured before it happened. The only reason he wasn't left banned completely was because he apologized. He's unbanned now but that doesn't mean we have to feature him with a fan club thread. | ||
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TheBrofessor
Canada429 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:49 Hot_Bid wrote: You find it hard to believe that when someone does something that is a usual permanent ban that they would not be featured? It's not like, oh he just encouraged hundreds of people to spam and harass and trash our forums, no big deal. I don't think you understand how seriously we take something like this. The whole incident is still fairly recent, and he was featured before it happened. The only reason he wasn't left banned completely was because he apologized. He's unbanned now but that doesn't mean we have to feature him with a fan club thread. You misread my post. I wasn't saying i find it hard to believe you're not featuring him because of the spamming ordeal, but don't act as if it's the only reason. As i already stated, he has been streaming and pulling a large amount of viewers (more than most featured streamers at peak times) since the game was in beta. It doesn't really matter to me, or anyone else who watches the stream whether or not theres a fan page or the stream is featured, but if you just don't like him for whatever reason, please just come out and say it. The reasons have went from "He's unknown." (Clearly false) to the incident with Syndicate. Which is, once again, too recent of an event to be the only reason. | ||
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freeto
United States122 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:49 Hot_Bid wrote: The whole incident is still fairly recent, and he was featured before it happened. are you sure about that? i cant ever recall a time when his stream was featured. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:49 Hot_Bid wrote: You find it hard to believe that when someone does something that is a usual permanent ban that they would not be featured? It's not like, oh he just encouraged hundreds of people to spam and harass and trash our forums, no big deal. I don't think you understand how seriously we take something like this. The whole incident is still fairly recent, and he was featured before it happened. The only reason he wasn't left banned completely was because he apologized. He's unbanned now but that doesn't mean we have to feature him with a fan club thread. You should use your magic mod powers and find out he was never featured, even though his content destroys every featured stream for learning/stream quality/entertainment. On top of that you are once again correlating a fanclub and being featured which are extremely different. Thanks for PMing me for no reason a week later too with some half assed troll comment. It was entirely necessary and not juvenile. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 17 2011 11:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I strongly disagree.even though his content destroys every featured stream for learning/stream quality/entertainment. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On January 17 2011 11:02 freeto wrote: are you sure about that? i cant ever recall a time when his stream was featured. Sorry, my mistake on that. We were discussing featuring him in the staff forum and we were very close to doing it when the spam happened, which was why I thought he was featured already. Anyway, I'll take Manifesto's advice and stop talking about this topic anymore, it's too frustrating. | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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hallihg
Iceland61 Posts
On January 12 2011 01:07 Chill wrote: Okay... It's actually being discussed in the staff forum. You should have clearer rules about fan clubs in a week. ) Hello good sirs and admins. I was wondering if the staff had already discussed the fanclubs and when we can see the new fan clubs rules, because I like the new miniWheat fanclub and other clubs, and I am also very interested to reopen the Steve Bonnell II / Destiny fanclub, that already had a few members for the five minutes it was open. Thank you, in advance. - hallihg | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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hallihg
Iceland61 Posts
On January 25 2011 01:34 Chill wrote: Still being discussed. Last I saw, there was going to be a User Stream & Fan Club forum made that would be accessible under General. In that section, anyone could make a fan club thread for anyone if it met a certain level of quality. But we haven't reached a final decision. Sorry about the slow pace. Hello Chill. Thank your the quick answer sir, i was just interested when the new standards and rules will be posted, because current standards are pretty unknown, for example a miniwheat fanclub, which i like alot, is open and kicking despite him not even knowing SC2 (yet) but a fanclub i created for a very popular player was closed instantly. But thanks for an informative and a quick answer, I hope we can see those rules soon. - hallihg | ||
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:49 Hot_Bid wrote: You find it hard to believe that when someone does something that is a usual permanent ban that they would not be featured? It's not like, oh he just encouraged hundreds of people to spam and harass and trash our forums, no big deal. I don't think you understand how seriously we take something like this. The whole incident is still fairly recent, and he was featured before it happened. The only reason he wasn't left banned completely was because he apologized. He's unbanned now but that doesn't mean we have to feature him with a fan club thread. I just want to add that i am not happy that Teamliquid didn't point me to this great stream... i found some of Destiny excerpt videos @ reddit/r/starcraft and often wondered why i always miss the guy @ TL, because TL is the nr.1 for quality StarCraft material. Just now i found his stream and bookmarked it. The guy is passionate, temperate and funny. You sound so offended that he told his fans to spam TL (surely in boasting/humorous/taunting way that only idiots would take for granted), yet Day9 jokes about players going ape shit on strategical theorycrafting (namely, the +1 Air Attack Weapon viable thingy), yet i see no reprecussion against him (and don't get me wrong, he doesn't deserve any, but nor does Destiny). In short, feature the goddamn stream and stop acting "offended". On offended: User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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tiaxone
United States3 Posts
I just want to add that i am not happy that Teamliquid didn't point me to this great stream... i found some of Destiny excerpt videos @ reddit/r/starcraft and often wondered why i always miss the guy @ TL, because TL is the nr.1 for quality StarCraft material. Just now i found his stream and bookmarked it. The guy is passionate, temperate and funny. You sound so offended that he told his fans to spam TL (surely in boasting/humorous/taunting way that only idiots would take for granted), yet Day9 jokes about players going ape shit on strategical theorycrafting (namely, the +1 Air Attack Weapon viable thingy), yet i see no reprecussion against him (and don't get me wrong, he doesn't deserve any, but nor does Destiny). In short, feature the goddamn stream and stop acting "offended". Running the risk of being banned for this, but I agree. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
Chill just gave an update about the fanclubs. Be patient..... | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
Yea, sorry Zelniq, but I don't think that's a great idea. Have some faith in the ability of viewers to come to a decision themselves on whether or not the video is full of shit or not. Hell, they can even jump on the bandwagon of guys like you saying it's bullshit! I'm sure they'd read some of the replies. | ||
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Ethic
Canada439 Posts
On January 25 2011 19:08 Cedstick wrote: I know there's a debate up about whether or not Athene is trolling, and some people don't like his "pseudoscience," or so it's accused, but locking both threads about the "Theory of Everything" video is kind of lame. The first one was locked by Plexa, for what I can see is a legitimate reason: "there's a thread about this." The second one was locked because Zelniq apparently doesn't like Athene. Yea, sorry Zelniq, but I don't think that's a great idea. Have some faith in the ability of viewers to come to a decision themselves on whether or not the video is full of shit or not. Hell, they can even jump on the bandwagon of guys like you saying it's bullshit! I'm sure they'd read some of the replies. I supports this statement and I would like to add my own feedback... Personally, yes, Athene plays WoW, and yes he plays Poker, and he did make many many videos with crazy antics of him and "Furious" doing crazy shit. Does this give him any less of a right to express his research on a subject? And does the opposition of one warrant the closing of a thread for an unjust reason? I do not think so... iNcontroL and Plexa both closed previous TOE threads for warrantable rasons, but Zelniq closed a third thread, that had a reasonable ammount of content in it from the OP, for a reason I deem extremely ignorant. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
As a forumer I agree with the above posters: it's a documentary that's gotten a lot of buzz, and I trust the TLers to figure it out that it's bullshit; zelniq should not have closed the main thread. Also i find it inconsistent that bullshit misleading pseudoscientific sensationalist thread titles like "we will get a second sun" "scientists discover life on another galaxy" were unchanged / left open, while the thread on athene's documentary, which actually has more than just a semblance of evidence (though I'd call the TOE claim sensationalist bullshit) was closed. aforementioned threads: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186432 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=115822 God, revisiting the 'life on another galaxy' thread is already tilting me, especially since so many people only read the title/OP of threads. one guy summed it up best: "Spectroscopy is nice but just finding organic molecules is not life; they are a prerequisite but there are many others. It's like digging up some iron ore and saying HEY GUYS I FOUND A CAR." edit: to clarify, I only wish that such threads have their titles changed, cuz they actually led to some interesting discussion. Still though, if that's not an option (though I can't see why it wouldn't be), closing would be preferable to leaving untouched. /antisensationalismzealot | ||
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