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On January 25 2011 01:34 Chill wrote: Still being discussed. Last I saw, there was going to be a User Stream & Fan Club forum made that would be accessible under General. In that section, anyone could make a fan club thread for anyone if it met a certain level of quality. But we haven't reached a final decision. Sorry about the slow pace. How long do you think it will take when you have made a final decision?
greetings ExoFun
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I'm curious why my thread was closed. I suppose there was a reason given but I don't really think the mod that closed it understood what I was trying to convey, like some of the thread posters. I'm sad that it will now be forever lost in the 'closed thread' section where all the reject threads go but at the same time it was nice to see all the people who genuinely found it thought provoking and insightful ^_^
I guess what I'm really asking is, was my thread really not up to teamliquid standards? I put a lot of effort into making it as rational and well thought out as possible and I thought as long as it fit those criteria it was worthy of posting. If it really wasn't up to par then I'm legitimately confused as to what is and what isn't. 
Please don't misunderstand, I ♥ teamliquid! Thank you guys for your hard work and the effort you put in ^_^
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I am curious about why the 100 2Rax Challenge (rightfully) was closed, while the 100 6Pool Challenge remains open? I don't want to sound mean, but I already considered the 4Gate Challenge a stupid idea that leads to nothing, but this puts the cherry on the cake in my eyes. Maybe I am too elitist, but I honestly don't understand why such threads are allowed to live.
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I created a post with what I thought was a different way of examining build orders. It was wrongfully interpreted as theory-crafting IMO. I would like to appeal this closure. I feel that the moderator should not have closed the post on the basis, he admitted to not understanding the concept I was trying to explain. I also feel the moderator was overly rude for no apparent reason and rejected the post based on his personal opinion of it rather than any sort of objective guidelines.
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Zurich15310 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188096
You create a TvP build purely from the theory that there are analogies between Terran and Zerg. I realize you probably want to talk about the general concept more than about that particular build, that doesn't change the fact that is theory crafting and has no place here.
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I would at least like another moderator to just take a look at it and decide if he thinks it's theory crafting rather than a concept for looking at build orders. That's all I want.
Got to agree I have no idea what you are trying to say. You take a ZvP build and create a *somewhat* "analogous" TvP build from that which will die to any of the common one base aggression build Protoss do.
My impression is you think too much about this game. Sit down and play some instead.
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Calgary25963 Posts
On January 27 2011 22:34 MobiusOne wrote:I would at least like another moderator to just take a look at it and decide if he thinks it's theory crafting rather than a concept for looking at build orders. That's all I want. Show nested quote + Got to agree I have no idea what you are trying to say. You take a ZvP build and create a *somewhat* "analogous" TvP build from that which will die to any of the common one base aggression build Protoss do.
My impression is you think too much about this game. Sit down and play some instead.
I've looked at it and agree with the action. The races aren't played the same way, so trying to borrow builds from race to race makes little sense. That, plus you have no proof of concept means the thread has little value.
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Calgary25963 Posts
On January 26 2011 20:00 kazansky wrote:I am curious about why the 100 2Rax Challenge (rightfully) was closed, while the 100 6Pool Challenge remains open? I don't want to sound mean, but I already considered the 4Gate Challenge a stupid idea that leads to nothing, but this puts the cherry on the cake in my eyes. Maybe I am too elitist, but I honestly don't understand why such threads are allowed to live. Hmm I'm not sure. The 6-pool challenge is really dumb since you don't need to practice it; however, it would be interesting to see how far you can get with only 6 pools. I can't justify closing it so I'll leave it to another moderator to look at.
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Ok, next time I'll include some replays.. and more hard data, thank you
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On January 25 2011 01:34 Chill wrote: Still being discussed. Last I saw, there was going to be a User Stream & Fan Club forum made that would be accessible under General. In that section, anyone could make a fan club thread for anyone if it met a certain level of quality. But we haven't reached a final decision. Sorry about the slow pace.
Hello good sirs and admins.
I was wondering if the staff had already discussed the fanclubs and when we can see the new fan club rules, because there are some clubs that remain open while others (like mine) have been closed because a player wasnt "known enough", for example clubs for players with over 1k viewers. I am very interested in reopening the Steve Bonnell II / Destiny fanclub, that already had many members for the five minutes it was open.
Thank you, in advance.
- hallihg
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What is up with ppl being so impatient about this?
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Hello good sir.
Another whole week has gone by and the admins are still discussing it, I dont think I am being impatient but if I am I apologize.
best regards,
hallihg
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Zurich15310 Posts
We proposed a new front page in October 2007. It was implemented in early 2009. Just to give you a perspective on how slow TL usually moves. While that is an extreme example, the discussion on fanclubs has been going on for a while as well, since early December.
Also please stop using this thread for fanclub issues. If you want to discuss them open a new thread.
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my thread "Does Terran have too many 1 base advantages?" was closed
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189844
None of your arguments is actually an argument. Why do people feel the need to use overly simplistic models to reach conclusions about the complex gameplay? If anything it displays that their game understanding is too limited to reach any valid conclusion.
Closing this.
Yes the game is complex and i certainly was simplifying many things because i don't know exact hard numbers as far as all these complex situations go and was stating that throughout the thread as well as keeping variables open like 5-6 and 4-5 instead of an assumed number that isn't always the case IE Mules take only 8 trips on far patches and 9 trips on close patches so is mule income 234 or is it 270? I fully admit this variable.
My intent was not 'lets cherry pick oversimplified information to prove a point and appear objective while being biased to only 1 acceptable conclusion the whole time' I was hoping progamer level players would become interested in all these variables and share some very useful information IE, in what situations are gateway units cost effective against bio. map depending, what unit composition in X situation is best.
One progamer did pm what he was going to post but could not because the thread had already been closed. I agree my title was too similar to X is imbalanced heres proof, but in my opinion i feel like it could have actually been a really constructive thread that did not warrant closing.
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Calgary25963 Posts
Agree with the moderator's action there.
Don't believe that a "progamer PMd you" unless you are exaggerating the definition of progamer.
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On February 03 2011 05:48 Chill wrote: Agree with the moderator's action there.
Don't believe that a "progamer PMd you" unless you are exaggerating the definition of progamer.
Probably semi-pro as most are but maybe you should look at the short list of names replying and see if by chance someone known had posted. that would increase probability of my statement that said user pm after close.
Edit: what i specifically want to ask is if my thread was closed because my OP had too many flaws or because the posting quality of subsequent comments on my post were mostly to put it nicely trash.
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Calgary25963 Posts
Suffice it to say your thread is bad. You break down the hits to hit an SCV, they aren't round numbers, and then conclude that's a 1 base Terran advantage. Oh and MULEs are pretty good.
That's not a good basis for a thread.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Thread failed to follow the strategy forum guidelines.
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obviously viable if people are doing it. too simple of a question
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