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On February 28 2011 08:37 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:Lol yeah, the second I saw it I was like "Fuck, ACE, how did I not think about busing him?!" DI'JA LOGIN WITH THE WRONG ACCOUNT? DI'JA? I looked over the past few pages 5 times, and nobody really sticks out as scum. Icemac is more scummy than either LSB or Barundar in my eyes, but not enough for him to deserve a lynch. Can't I just stick to OriginalName?  wut why would you wanna bus ace?
Why wouldn't you?! He's been nothing but scum this whole game. Practically half of his posts are unfounded votes. I demand he dies!
@ Barundar: I know you're willing to die, but what if you're wrong and you're both green?
That would screw up the town big time. Don't you agree?
All I ask for is a bit more time for us to draw conclusions.
@ LSB: I am 100% against Barundar lynch. If I had to choose between you two (if there were just us 3 left in the game), I would choose to lynch you. But I'm 90% sure that he's town, and I'm 70% sure that you're town as well.
So basically, you're asking me to vote for icemac, so that I take a stance. Even though I would pick OriginalName over most everyone else, based on that one post alone.
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I'm going to stick on the lynch I had on Day 1 and vote to lynch off Icemac.
##Vote: Icemac
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Ok so tally is up, it's pretty clear that icemac will die.
I guess that I'll vote for him as well, as I want to sleep, though the only thing that I can base it on is the fact that annul had the chance to try and shift his lynch on him and chose not to do so. But it's all too wishy-washy if you ask me.
##vote icemac
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On February 28 2011 08:56 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok so tally is up, it's pretty clear that icemac will die.
I guess that I'll vote for him as well, as I want to sleep, though the only thing that I can base it on is the fact that annul had the chance to try and shift his lynch on him and chose not to do so. But it's all too wishy-washy if you ask me.
##vote icemac
OH gooood point. wow im an idiot i forgot that Annul didnt even try to convert the lynch
##unvote: Barundar
##vote icemac
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On February 28 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 08:56 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok so tally is up, it's pretty clear that icemac will die.
I guess that I'll vote for him as well, as I want to sleep, though the only thing that I can base it on is the fact that annul had the chance to try and shift his lynch on him and chose not to do so. But it's all too wishy-washy if you ask me.
##vote icemac OH gooood point. wow im an idiot i forgot that Annul didnt even try to convert the lynch on icemac ##unvote: Barundar
##vote icemac
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Well, I disapprove of sheeping, but to be honest I hadn't considered the evidence from annul in regards to icemac, so while I don't think his posting is utterly scummy, I believe that his few scummy posts in combination with annul not redirecting towards him are damning enough, watch me be wrong on this though
##unvote
##vote icemac
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watch icemac be Godfather lol..
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Well I suppose there is no such thing as a policy vote.
Fair enough.
##unvote
##vote Icemac
He's been doing post and ghost similar to divinek in XXXVI.
And after a day of LSB and Barundar declaring No You! No You! I will take a dim view of people telling me I tunnel. 
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god what a mess. I go away for the weekend and this is what's happened? How did we ever get annul
Lets break this down and look at it objectively.
1. We lynch annul.
2. Mafia are incapable of getting the lynch off of annul. This means they do not have players who are prominent or have a lot of influence.
3. Suspicion turns on the most prominent players who are active and have influence.
Logic does not compute. We should be targeting the INACTIVES, or the fakers at least because they would be the ones who could not get the lynch off annul. But no of course not you have to go for the most prominent people on the off chance that annul might have been bussed. Why the hell would mafia deliberately sacrifice a member on day 1 when they have an assured green lynch normally. Town cred is really not that important.
Shut up with the conspiracy theories. Yes LSB/etc might be mafia. But what is more likely. LSB/Barundar, PROMINENT PEOPLE, are scum, or joe2 posts is scum? Simple solutions work best. Granted LSB has a bit of a negative influence on the town because he keeps trying to hype himself up to absurd proportions far out of alignment with what he did, seriously hes like a professional marketer, but that's not remotely worthy of a lynch.
How about this. I got someone better.
##vote: jbright
Why? He only has 4 real posts, a dodger vote, and he likes to talk nonsense and ignore the big arguments.
On February 24 2011 12:07 JBright wrote:
So far the game has been dominated by a few very vocal players, but I'm not sure how much progress we are making since it seems they're mostly arguing the about the same thing again and again.
Yes, there are a few inactive players (myself included up to this post). I will probably give one of them a pressure vote until they post or a substantially better candidate pops up. Maybe I'm a bit naive or just inexperienced at this game, but none of the posts so far seem too scummy to me.
On February 25 2011 14:27 JBright wrote:
Yay town. Looks like I ended up wasting my vote on myself since I forgot to change my vote.
If annul did slip up and there are up to 5 members in a mafia family...does that mean we could potentially have 1/3 of the players as mafia with only 2 families? Since this is a punishment game in some sense, I think that there must be more difficulties than just the special scum powers. Having potentially 10 scum means that it'll be more dangerous to trust the people in PM circles than expected if we do get around to forming them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how night 1 goes and play from there.
On February 25 2011 15:36 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 15:16 seRapH wrote:On February 25 2011 14:27 JBright wrote:
Yay town. Looks like I ended up wasting my vote on myself since I forgot to change my vote.
If annul did slip up and there are up to 5 members in a mafia family...does that mean we could potentially have 1/3 of the players as mafia with only 2 families? Since this is a punishment game in some sense, I think that there must be more difficulties than just the special scum powers. Having potentially 10 scum means that it'll be more dangerous to trust the people in PM circles than expected if we do get around to forming them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how night 1 goes and play from there. Do you seriously believe this? Do you really think annul would "accidentally" let slip how many mafia there are? I know its wifom but I'm more inclined to believe that there are more than 5 mafia. Two families... I have no idea where you came up with that. 2 families of five pretty much DOOM the town of twenty completely. Also no I don't actually believe icemac's mafia, but was happy to see the pressure rising on him. I was not, however, pleased with the lack of reaction he gave. Icemac, please prove me wrong this game and don't be useless. This is my second game and I really have no idea what to expect... I've read somewhere that there could be games with competing mafia families, but I guess that not a common occurrence here. As far as the "slip" goes, I guess it really is going to be wifom. If that gave away too much information (as to spoil the game), one of the mods could have potentially edited it out. But now that so many people have seen it, any modifications would be extremely suspicious. As a general rule, it is probably true that scum lie a lot. But even 5 mafia members seem like a good approximation (if 10 is too much), although it is definitely safer to assume that 5 is the lower limit of the number of scum.
On February 27 2011 23:04 JBright wrote:
A lot of interesting arguments are being thrown around, but none of them are particularly compelling enough to throw any one person to the top. For now, I'll go with the possible scum slip and vote for icemac.
##vote: icemac
You reference multiple times how newbie you are. Gee, why would you do that. I saw this a lot on other mafia sites and guess what, scum almost every time. Townies wouldnt need to do that, but scum sure might.
Next, what have you actually said. WAit, I got it. NOTHING. In your several paragraphs you have written absolutely nothing zilch nada of value. You pressure vote some safe inactive lynch and dont take a stand, note that you are inactive very early on, and don't do anything about it. Inconsistency much? You don't take sides, you dont have an opinion that means anything, and you dont really care about whats going on. It's like you're off in your own little la-la-land aka scum irc channel chortling.
Half of your "contribution" involves hypothesizing about some fantasy where there are two mafia teams lol and maybe a mod edit or something but you dont really know? That alone doesnt mean enough, you could just be stupid, but with everything else, it aint looking good brodooski.
You then do absolutely nothing with your vote today. You dont take a standard, you dont take a side, you just say "HRM I DUNNO ILL VOTE THIS GUY CAUSE I DONT KNOW AND DONT CARE ABOUT THE TOWN TO WANT TO KNOW"
To top it off I looked at the last game you played, orgah mafia. You were a town so far as i can tell with those screwy rules, and none of these habits showed up. You posted decisive stuff man. You didnt bullshit about how new you are. You didnt make excuses. But now you are. Guess why? Cause you're scum
Here are some portions from his town play:
+ Show Spoiler [orgah] +On February 12 2011 10:56 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 02:47 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 11 2011 15:35 JBright wrote:
Since everyone has a specified role to take, will looking at past games still be important for analysis? People could be playing up their characters and forcefully change their posting habits, but that's hard to tell. Can you guys cut it out? I'm starting to think you're doing this on purpose..... Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:36 Misder wrote:
To all those that have played pevergreen's previous games- are there any chars that are assumed scum? Whoa there. Don't know if those are just part of your characters, but you don't have to start accusing people as mafia just because of it. A character and someone's alignment should be completely separate things (at least that's what I think), so no need to jump the gun. Hmm, so far the votes are still looks to be pretty distributed other than Zerroth. Unless something drastic happens within the next 7-8 hours, he will probably be lynched. I guess I'll just vote for someone who is inactive but still have no votes yet. Vote: Insanious On February 13 2011 03:31 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 02:37 deconduo wrote:Interesting. Twins are usually of opposing alignments so I had a look at Lunar's Posts: + Show Spoiler +On February 11 2011 10:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
Ok. I got a fucked up pm. AND my character happens to be gay. WTF. On February 11 2011 10:07 LunarDestiny wrote:
Everyone, first find your character here.
forums.totalwar.org/vb
I found mine pretty easily. Also will name claiming be any help in this game? On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games.
He just don't like to write long post to convince others. On February 11 2011 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:03 thefluffyone93 wrote:
I say pever, you didn't burden someone with the role that forces the player to write in huge, multi-colored text, and occasionally post meme pictures, did you?
Because that would be very.....annoying. Put foot in mouth.I herd you liek me, so I put me into me to make meme. On February 11 2011 13:28 LunarDestiny wrote:
There are also no ‘joker’ or ‘actor’ roles. No one will obtain victory by being lynched.
Just want to restate this because I will be force to do a couple of things very silly. My character is fucking stupid. On February 12 2011 05:17 LunarDestiny wrote:
I will be busy throughout the first day. I'll catchup on monday (day2?).
I see people are exerting huge pressure on one person. To me, Zerroth is playing the lurking/inactive style like the last game. It'll be great if it will make him more active but it is like mafia can slip by unnoticed if it stays like this.
Also placing a vote to avoid modkill.
Vote: LunarGotNoDestiny
He made no particular effort to change the lynch which leads me to believe that he didn't know he was linked to zerroth. Considering it took a measly 5 votes to lynch zerroth it doesn't look like mafia (or any other party) made a significant attempt to redirect the lynch. Another point to notice is that there was only 16 real votes placed out of 30, and these were spread out over 11 candidates. This is shockingly bad play. We need to be a lot more united to make any headway in this game, especially considering that there are probably several ~3 person factions with alternative victory conditions. If we allow scum/3rd party to lead the lynch wherever they want we are totally screwed. I know this was day one and there isn't a lot to go on, but we seriously need to pick it up a bit. I've thought about the different alignments for twins as well, but it will be hard to determine anything, other than suspicious play, until the first night is over. The activity so far in this game has come in waves...a whole bunch of posts in a short period and then nothing for a few hours. I'm still curious as to why Coagulation didn't put down a vote. Several players' votes were discounted (late or wrong format) but they at least tried. A second day without votes would mean a modkill, so I'll be looking closely at those people for the second day. On February 14 2011 08:23 JBright wrote:
It's been surprisingly quiet for this day cycle. That makes the voting a bit harder. Since the first set of modkills can potentially happen tonight, I'll try to vote for someone who has a counted vote for day 1. Hmm, the OMGUS votes from beefy and thefluffyone seems kinda weird to me (they responded in a similar manner, but could be part of their characters). Since fluffy already has a vote, I'll go for beefy.
Vote: Beefy187
Look how he actually takes a stance. Yes he has weird penchants but he doesn't vote the bandwagons and has the guts to state his own opinions and make real choices.
Folks this is a guy trying to hide and pulling it off because you are so concentrated on trying to chop off any blade of grass that grows above the rest.
![[image loading]](http://hubba-u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/professor_badass.jpg)
Im coming for you scum.
Annul[ and his broomstick
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On February 28 2011 09:04 Jackal58 wrote:Well I suppose there is no such thing as a policy vote. Fair enough. ##unvote
##vote IcemacHe's been doing post and ghost similar to divinek in XXXVI. And after a day of LSB and Barundar declaring No You! No You! I will take a dim view of people telling me I tunnel.
go and look for the game where Ace and L yell at each other for a few pages, they defined tunneling that game (anyone remember which one it was?)
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On February 28 2011 09:06 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 09:04 Jackal58 wrote:Well I suppose there is no such thing as a policy vote. Fair enough. ##unvote
##vote IcemacHe's been doing post and ghost similar to divinek in XXXVI. And after a day of LSB and Barundar declaring No You! No You! I will take a dim view of people telling me I tunnel. go and look for the game where Ace and L yell at each other for a few pages, they defined tunneling that game (anyone remember which one it was?)
I'm guessing they'll continue it tonight or tomorrow.
And no I'm not aware of what game it was.
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aww shit hes got his pimp shoes on
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Foolishness
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The LSB - Barundar debate is living proof that there are some people in a mafia game who you try to ignore as much as possible. I am going to make a case right here that we choose to ignore these two buffoons and move on to more important matters.
At one point or another I caught both these players saying "lynch the other, then lynch me if they turn up green". DO NOT BE DISTRACTED BY ARGUMENTS SUCH AS THESE! Let's say we take their advice, and lynch one today. They flip green (which is most likely). What's going to happen is we spend the entire next day debating to lynch the other and some other random inactive (probably icemac, the poor guy). Most likely, the other of LSB/Barundar will get lynched.
End result of all this is probably we lynched two greens AND we wasted two days and nights analyzing at most 3 people. That time could have been spent taking a more thorough analysis of other players in the game. Not to mention by the time the next day roles around there will be about 4-5 more townies dead from night kills.
"But Foolishness, what if (insert LSB or Barundar) is actually mafia! Then we killed a mafia!" Cool, that's really wonderful, but we still wasted two days not analyzing anyone else. Not to mention the ONLY people that want to kill LSB or Barundar are: LSB and Barundar. A quick scan tells me anyone else voting for one or the other is doing it out of policy "Wow (insert LSB or Barundar), I never looked at it that way before! It's so obvious that (insert whoever you didn't insert above) is mafia!" Yeah great job thinking for yourself there; policy lynches are totally the way to play mafia.
Let's take a step back and analyze the situation as a whole. LSB and Barundar call each other, both are confident enough to say "if he flips green lynch me next". Nothing much to say here. What's interesting is we have people on both sides of the argument saying "LSB/Barundar is totally acting in their norm...remember this other game where they did exactly that as a town?" That strikes me as very interesting because it means someone actually did their homework and more obviously, they are probably both town.
The voting thread is even more proof that nobody really wants to kill them besides themselves, as we got people voting for gryffindor and icemac. This also seems more out of policy than actual analysis, as people are basically summing up their vote as "well, I'm not comfortable with killing LSB or Barundar, so I'll just vote this other guy who has been under suspicion all game". Also voting out of policy without providing credible evidence.
(Yes people, policy lynches are bad)
If LSB and Barundar are not acting out of their norm then who is? LunarDestiny and Seraph. I can easily show it just by looking at their number of posts.
LunarDestiny:
Number of posts before game starts: 12
Number of posts after game starts (up until now): 18
Seraph:
Number of posts before game starts: 10
Number of posts after game starts (up until now): 13
For this, I will focus on LunarDestiny, we can deal with Seraph later.
##Vote LunarDestiny
In Mafia XXXV LunarDestiny had 29 posts from start of the game until the end of day two. That's a 50% increase from this game. Sure numbers are kinda meaningless, but it's interesting how much posting he was doing pre game then as soon as the game starts he shuts up. There's definitely something going on with him.
Additional information, as it was brought up not too long ago, at one point yesterday the vote was Annul 6, icemac 5. It was here that I decided I wanted to vote for annul to pressure him more, because I thought he would easily crack and show himself as mafia (turns out he did right before day was over). It's usually my policy to lynch inactives first day, so I felt a bit awkward about voting for him because I hate voting active players the first day or two.
I sent a PM to LunarDestiny, explaining this and asking if he would vote annul. His response (I don't want to take up space posting the actual PMs, just PM me if you don't believe me):
"I spent more of my posts talking about how I hate bandwagon...
However, I can help call Annul out by posting how he is playing like he was in XXXV where his postings are similar since they are not logical."
That's a legitimate response upon first inspection. But here's a collection of posts LunarDestiny made that regards bandwagoning:
On February 23 2011 15:38 LunarDestiny wrote:
Voting inactives are bad, but there are people who will only reply if their names pop up. I understand the game just started, but I think pressure voting to get someone start talking is good.
What's bad is that if the person don't respond and bandwagon on that person happens.
On February 23 2011 16:52 LunarDestiny wrote:@gryffindor Show nested quote +Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me. I'm not mafia, so if he was mafia, I would expect him to have done that differently. It could be WIFOM off of an associative tell, but I'm not sure if he's good enough to do that. Given that I doubt he wasn't genuine, and I like that he is attempting to create a bandwagon, I'm comfortable with him in my town category. I didn't want to just put "town", as it can be misleading. People will be moving up and down on my list as their play improves/degrades. You are saying that Ser Aspi read you as mafia and tried to convince town and not sucessful in doing do. While I agree that mafia won't recklessly risk themselves at leading lynches, I believe that they want to form a quick bandwagon on town. But you also said Ser Aspi tried to create a bandwagon which is what mafia wants to do. That should be a scum tell instead of a defense why he is town.
If I missed one let me know, but it's clear there's very little indication of "I hate bandwagons!" Of course there's a little indication of this as he says it's a mafia move to ignite a bandwagon, but that's it. Of course what I'm getting at is that LunarDestiny wanted to dodge voting annul. If he didn't want to help me why not just say "i don't believe annul is mafia, let's kill icemac"? Maybe he's intimidated by me, or maybe he's mafia. (He did vote for icemac yesterday, which is kinda a bandwagon in itself, just not as big as the annul one).
He tells me in the PM he will help me by calling him out in the thread. Let's look at some of his posts which are supposed to help me:
On February 24 2011 14:05 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 13:03 annul wrote:
##unvote
##vote gmarshal
better than chaoser atm I want to ask you for the reasons why you switched your vote. And why do you think Gmarshall is a better lynch than Chaoser.
This was his post after he sent me the PM. As we can see, he did try to pressure annul, but not in the way he said he would. Take a look at some of his later posts:
On February 25 2011 06:34 LunarDestiny wrote:
I read about the last three pages and found not very strong reasons that Annul is scum.
I don't see much scum tell in his vote switch from Chaoser to Gmarshall. Annul did justify his vote on Gmarshall on why his plan is bad.
Another thing people keep mentioning is the aggressiveness how Annul is playing which looks like how he played in XXXV where he was scum. The difference is there he was accusing LSB being scum with flawed reasons. This game, he actually justified his vote and did provide reasons unlike the old "LSB postings are spams and have few contributions."
I played with Annul many times before and it seems that he is always aggressive on day1.
XXXV: Accused LSB mafia because he spams and don't contribute much.
Merc Mafia: Claimed medic to me (day vig) and planned to have 100% town victory.
Survivor Mafia (ongoing): After the quick 3 people alliance, he rallied and formed the counter 5 people alliance to take control of the game.
This game compared to other games I played with Annul, I consider that he is playing less aggressive.
On February 25 2011 07:58 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +LSB: Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any. Looked over Annul's posts: 1) He posts are generally short and don't have much content to them. I do find Annul saying Gmarshall is mafia based only on his circle thing is not convincing. 2) This is the part I disagree. Annul did what most people will do in this situation. He attacked someone whom he believe is mafia and defended himself when he was in huge danger of being lynched. If he didn't go after someone, ok... since not everyone got a mafia read on day1. And his defense on himself is normal behavior. To determine if he is really mafia, you have to look at the time when he felt pressured and tried to redirect the lynch to another person (Gmarshall in this case) and if there are any support from others. People did pointed out Gmarshall's circle thing is a horrible idea but no one voted for him after Annul's switch.
Easily seen how he contradicts what he told me in PM. He wanted to "help" me so that I wouldn't become suspicious of him, yet he spends time half ass defending annul. I say half ass because of his reluctance to take an affirmative stance on the situation. He obviously voted for icemac, and made posts such as these:
On February 25 2011 08:09 LunarDestiny wrote:
ANNUL, can you response to some critical posts toward you and don't use one liner responses because one liner responses are hard to read alignment.
On February 25 2011 10:25 LunarDestiny wrote:
Annul, if you don't do anything people will not switch vote. This play style of yours is getting you lynched. While I still believe your aggressiveness is lower compared to other games, what makes you an easy lynch is that you don't reply with logical responses. I hope that is not what mafia is going for.
Also, town players roleclaim regardless when they are getting lynched. That "you'll know soon after" is not general town play.
Can you at least tell us what you observed?
Well, time to vote...
Icemac, you took a huge dive. Care to explained your voting or what you see on the thread?
These posts indicate him saying "hey annul you're going to die unless you do something" and above his posts are saying "guys, we don't have convincing evidence to kill annul, he's not acting that different from his past games". The most important thing to take away from this situation is his lack to take an affirmative stance. On one hand you read this and think, "nah he couldn't be mafia with annul look at him try to tell annul to change his attitude so he doesn't die", and on the other hand you read his above posts and say "he could be mafia with annul because he tried to defend him". LunarDestiny does not want to take sides so he cannot be held accountable later.
SUMMARY:
LunarDestiny gave me an inaccurate PM, and then went back on his word on pressuring annul. He did not take an affirmative stance on what he thought about annul and voted for icemac.
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On February 28 2011 08:56 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok so tally is up, it's pretty clear that icemac will die.
I guess that I'll vote for him as well, as I want to sleep, though the only thing that I can base it on is the fact that annul had the chance to try and shift his lynch on him and chose not to do so. But it's all too wishy-washy if you ask me.
##vote icemac
This is the exact attitude that results in town lynching greens.
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I think I now understand why LSB thinks Foolishness is so good... I have time to think so let me read over your post a couple more times and see if LD defends himself before changing my vote.
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Wow, a lot happened when I was gone.
I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.
Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.
So, who to vote for..
I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.
##Vote: LunarDestiny
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On February 28 2011 09:35 ohN wrote:
Wow, a lot happened when I was gone.
I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.
Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.
So, who to vote for..
I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.
##Vote: LunarDestiny
contradicting yourself there
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Ok, so reading over Foolishness post and looking back at XXXVI only on thing stands out in my mind, and thats the fact that when LD was the SK he played aggressively pro town, I would have guessed that he would play the same style as mafia, however I could be wrong, and there is certainly something off about LD this game. I already said earlier that just by looking at icemac's posts I wasn't really feeling that icemac was scum, so I'll change my vote (again), I dont think enough people are going to switch over to actually get a lynch on LD today, but its worth a try, worst case scenario we lynch a town and end up with a lurker being forced to be more active
##unvote: icemac
##Vote: LunarDestiny
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You guys are making me feel like a ping pong ball.
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sorry we like moving votes around, its fun, it leads to chaos, I wasn't really satisfied with the icemac lynch but I didn't want to waste my vote on someone who had no chance of dying, this way I actually get to vote for someone who may be mafia! (if icemac is scum then I'm going to look even stupider than when I defended annul)
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