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Amber, thank you for addressing my point. I ask these questions so I can learn from the more experienced players.
I know lying is a big part of the game, it's a game of deception! Ifthere are detectives though, which I assume there are, and at least one is in the town circle, it could give some security.
One thing I am afraid of is that fishball knows the mayor can't be rolechecked, and he's asking to be mayor so that he can gain that protection and then blatantly cover up his true affiliation to screw over the town.
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Well good morning people. Will be busy at work this morning, so I'm just skimming through most of the posts for now, but I'll reply to yours.
On October 29 2010 16:55 Ace wrote: Well it's not only a question of whether he is good or not. Fishball admits that his circle has 6 players that do not know each other's alignment. So instead of figuring out who is possibly Scum in his circle he runs for Mayor because his role is too important?
Actually, that is exactly what I will be doing, to figure out who could be scum in the group, if there are any at all. Everyone has no information whatsoever for now, but that will be the starting point.
On October 29 2010 16:55 Ace wrote:??? In that case why not ask for medic protection, or at the very least propose a good plan that would warrant you getting Mayor votes. You're entire platform comes down to a pretty weak reason and on top of that several players already jumped at the chance to vote for you off of that. Now I doubt all of them are that ridiculously dumb to: 1.) be in your circle and trust that you are innocent so early in the game 2.) Not think 1 step ahead and realize that if they are indeed part of your circle then it may not be the smartest idea to immediately out themselves 3.) Lastly if there are other factions that can talk to each other, then Fishball's circle may not even be a town circle. So now these players need to explain how they are so trustworthy of Fishball so fast. There can't BE a circle if Fishball already knows that all the member's do not know each other's alignment. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 14:13 infinitestory wrote:
Definitely agree. Fishball's promise that he will give a full roleclaim if and when he is elected makes me feel safer about this. If his roleclaim ends up being bull, we'll probably find out quickly. However, I think we need to make sure that "highly scrutinized" clause DrH talks about here is well kept. Mayor may be an elected position of power, but that is by no means synonymous with town, especially with regards to someone campaigning for the position. You wouldn't believe this but people lie about giving you information after you do something for them. See any game with a Scum Mayor. Secondly if Fishball lies about his role claim and we have no role list then how will we know? You can't. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 14:55 youngminii wrote: I buy fishball's story. I don't buy bum's. It's posts like this that I'm talking about. You buy Fishball's story with no explanation even though nothing about his claim can be proven.
I never said I had a Town circle. In fact, I never used the words "town" and "circle" together. I listed everything in detail, and tried not to cause any deception. When I got my role, I immediately started thinking, what can I do with it? We have a premade circle and some of us have already started talking. As mentioned before, my role is critical to the circle, and of course, the other players don't know my role. I can still come out publicly and ask for Medic protection instead, but god knows how Medic's work in this game, plus there are usually work around with medic protection (roleblocker or the likes). The best way for protection is Mayor's bodyguard, and the only way I can die is if infected by the virus. That, or being lynched.
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On October 29 2010 18:08 bumatlarge wrote: The fact that fishball came out a little late on this is weird, what was he waiting for? Maybe he was talking with his posse?
...I'm deliberating whether we should all claim whether or not we are in this circle or not to at least root out that... though 6 is an easy number to check, wouldn't see it relevant number to choose unless he would handpick from his scumbuddies if he secured himself.
Wondering if I should just stick with my thing.
Just let me get one thing straight. I received my role PM's when I got home after work around 5pm mountain time. I posted my announcement around 10-11pm. That's 5-6 hours of "thinking" time. How can you call this late? Especially when we have 48 hours to vote for a mayor, and the majority of players haven't even checked in yet, let alone vote.
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On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote: ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor
isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle. is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??
It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor. why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.
I DO NOT HAVE A TOWN CIRCLE.
Where the hell does this come from? Since after Ace starting using this term. I repeat, we have a pre-made CIRCLE. People in this circle DOES NOT KNOW each other's role or alignment.
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On October 29 2010 23:04 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote: ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor
isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle. is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??
It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor. why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.
I DO NOT HAVE A TOWN CIRCLE.Where the hell does this come from? Since after Ace starting using this term. I repeat, we have a pre-made CIRCLE. People in this circle DOES NOT KNOW each other's role or alignment.
re-read my post. I referred to your circle ONLY as "circle" I am well aware that you dont have a town circle that was the whole basis of my post.
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My fault for skimming through everything in a rush in the morning.
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(dark background, wispy white smoke, dramatic thunderclaps and epic scary voiceovers)
pandain? (*bad picture of pandain roaring like a panda bear*) whaddanub! i hear lying as town is pro.
bumatlarge? (*bad picture of bumatlarge flashing fangs and raging against chains on a wall*) whaddanub! i hear dying night 1 as the suicide bomber is a pro move.
fishball? (*bad picture of a fish out of water*) whaddanub! who the hell names themself fishball?
is this who you want to lead your town?
(shift to a light background, with sunlight and sun rays, blue sky. dramatic music suddenly shifting to great happy tunes (think of the polyphonic spree) and the voiceover changes to that hot asian girl who did map voiceovers for MLG)
annul? (*good picture of annul flexing and the light shining off of his body, halo-style*) whaddapro! he knows how to lead towns! also, this time he is actually town and actually wants mayor for good reasons! annul wouldn't be so bold as to try the same strategy twice in a row, especially starting on day 1, unless he had a great plan, with bold leadership, to deliver the town to massive victory! annul's active, reading every post and playing the game as it should be played. a vote for annul is a vote for victory!
(imagery shifts one last time to a side-view shot of annul at his keyboard, head-turned and smiling, legs crossed, in full dress wizard robes (think: "business suit" of the wizarding world))
im annul v. and i support this message
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ps i can confirm vigilantes exist in this game. i am not vigilante, i do not know any vigilantes, but i know they exist. details later.
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How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.
why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.
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On October 30 2010 00:06 annul wrote: (dark background, wispy white smoke, dramatic thunderclaps and epic scary voiceovers)
pandain? (*bad picture of pandain roaring like a panda bear*) whaddanub! i hear lying as town is pro.
bumatlarge? (*bad picture of bumatlarge flashing fangs and raging against chains on a wall*) whaddanub! i hear dying night 1 as the suicide bomber is a pro move.
fishball? (*bad picture of a fish out of water*) whaddanub! who the hell names themself fishball?
is this who you want to lead your town?
(shift to a light background, with sunlight and sun rays, blue sky. dramatic music suddenly shifting to great happy tunes (think of the polyphonic spree) and the voiceover changes to that hot asian girl who did map voiceovers for MLG)
annul? (*good picture of annul flexing and the light shining off of his body, halo-style*) whaddapro! he knows how to lead towns! also, this time he is actually town and actually wants mayor for good reasons! annul wouldn't be so bold as to try the same strategy twice in a row, especially starting on day 1, unless he had a great plan, with bold leadership, to deliver the town to massive victory! annul's active, reading every post and playing the game as it should be played. a vote for annul is a vote for victory!
(imagery shifts one last time to a side-view shot of annul at his keyboard, head-turned and smiling, legs crossed, in full dress wizard robes (think: "business suit" of the wizarding world))
im annul v. and i support this message
i know i shouldnt base previous exploits from previous games on a fresh game but i honestly feel you have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected after Halloween mafia..
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To Fishball: It is so easy to make up a role that would make it seem worth it for you to be mayor. Besides, I am more interested in having a mayor with good analytical thinking rather than because of their role. For example, a dt for mayor would be bad if the dt doesn't know what he's doing and just randomly checks people and actually doesn't catch any red.
To annul: You might have played great in the Haunted Mafia, but you have not shown as your skills playing as a townie. Playing while knowing a lot of information from the start is different from starting out with no information and I have yet to see that you are good at that.
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We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.
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Well Fishball far and away has the best platform, but that doesn't mean it's good.
As the town Anarchist i will not be voting for anybody. No gods! No masters!
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Do we HAVE to vote for a mayor? I don't like all these arguments.
Can we worry about the more pressing issue? Meaning, who dies in the day1 lynching?
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all i knew at the start of haunted was my team (and i knew which kills were vampire and which were mafia). everything else that i learned, i learned on my own from my own strategizing
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I think it would be in towns best interest to avoid placing an extremely skilled manipulator such as annul in the mayor seat when he could potentially be a red.
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Everyone has to vote in the elections. If you do not vote, you will be modkilled. The deadline is tomorrow at midnight CET.
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On October 30 2010 00:30 CubEdIn wrote: Do we HAVE to vote for a mayor? I don't like all these arguments.
Can we worry about the more pressing issue? Meaning, who dies in the day1 lynching?
yeah i honestly feel like i dont trust ANYONE that wants to be mayor..
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doesn't the mayor choose day 1 lynch??
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On October 30 2010 00:40 Coagulation wrote: doesn't the mayor choose day 1 lynch?? Yes.
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