EPTOn October 29 2010 15:15 infinitestory wrote:
can you explain why under these circumstances bum would look town
can you explain why under these circumstances bum would look town
i didnt think that out very well TT
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
i didnt think that out very well TT | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
DoctorHelvetica was the first supporter of both bumatlarge and Fishball. Assuming that mafia got no incentive to vote town as mayor, that DoctorHelvetica is most likely to be town. In the case that DoctorHelvetica is mafia, then both bumatlarge and more so Fishball is mafia. The above situation is a if statement about if DoctorHelvetica is town or mafia, then bumatlarge and Fishball are... NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Or we could continue supporting Fishball and his town circle plan. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On October 29 2010 15:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i didnt think that out very well TT Perhaps they are both scum and bum announced so fast so that fish had time to prepare his statement and now bum backs out since fish is ready. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On October 29 2010 15:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: omg guys what if fishball bumatlarge are both scum and bumatlarge backed out so that when fishball flips scum he'll look town  are we going to turn this whole thread into wifom | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 29 2010 15:27 Divinek wrote: are we going to turn this whole thread into wifomwifom to a certain extent is necessary in mafia but i was half kidding really | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Just gonna trow some stuff out here. Plague doctor makes one player immune to M-rus per night. If he can use it on Fishball, that would be pretty nice, even if he can't be rolechecked (unless he cant be M-rused...) Otherwise popular players are good targets too. Essentially you will act like a medic, protecting the innocent! Sounds like you will be incredibly important. I wonder if PDs are already immune to the M-rus, appears reasonable. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
??? In that case why not ask for medic protection, or at the very least propose a good plan that would warrant you getting Mayor votes. You're entire platform comes down to a pretty weak reason and on top of that several players already jumped at the chance to vote for you off of that. Now I doubt all of them are that ridiculously dumb to: 1.) be in your circle and trust that you are innocent so early in the game 2.) Not think 1 step ahead and realize that if they are indeed part of your circle then it may not be the smartest idea to immediately out themselves 3.) Lastly if there are other factions that can talk to each other, then Fishball's circle may not even be a town circle. So now these players need to explain how they are so trustworthy of Fishball so fast. There can't BE a circle if Fishball already knows that all the member's do not know each other's alignment. On October 29 2010 14:13 infinitestory wrote: Definitely agree. Fishball's promise that he will give a full roleclaim if and when he is elected makes me feel safer about this. If his roleclaim ends up being bull, we'll probably find out quickly. However, I think we need to make sure that "highly scrutinized" clause DrH talks about here is well kept. Mayor may be an elected position of power, but that is by no means synonymous with town, especially with regards to someone campaigning for the position. You wouldn't believe this but people lie about giving you information after you do something for them. See any game with a Scum Mayor. Secondly if Fishball lies about his role claim and we have no role list then how will we know? You can't. On October 29 2010 14:55 youngminii wrote: I buy fishball's story. I don't buy bum's. It's posts like this that I'm talking about. You buy Fishball's story with no explanation even though nothing about his claim can be proven. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
I think I will wait a bit before deciding who I would vote for a Mayor. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
...I'm deliberating whether we should all claim whether or not we are in this circle or not to at least root out that... though 6 is an easy number to check, wouldn't see it relevant number to choose unless he would handpick from his scumbuddies if he secured himself. Wondering if I should just stick with my thing. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
At the moment, Fishball has given us the most concrete reason to vote for/against him. His alleged circle offers us advantages that we can use but might leave us vulnerable to infiltration. Does anyone else have a good reason why we should support your bid to become mayor? Is a person who has been visited by the Plague Doctor gain immunity for the remainder of the game? If so, then the Plague Doctor should visit the mayor as soon as possible. I wonder how "insane" this is going to get... A truly insane game shouldn't follow set rules. However, without a well-defined set of rules, a game becomes meaningless. I'm excited to see how this game will play out! Have fun everyone! =) | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
like we vote for Bum or pandain there is a 1 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor we vote for fishball there is a 7 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
What we really need is for someone in the town to make a really strong case for themselves. Unfortunately, it would still be hard to distinguish Reds from Blues. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle. is there even a way we can verify this before the vote?? It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor. why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
An experienced player won't necessarily be influenced easily, and members of Congress will have to submit to a background check (everyone knows that politicians' lives aren't secret from anyone). Additionally, if Fishball is the mayor, his behavior will be heavily watched, and any scummy activity can be checked. Since no one else has really brought anything to the table, I believe that voting Fishball could be a *relatively* safe option. I reserve my judgement to see if/when another good candidate steps forward. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On October 29 2010 18:36 kingjames01 wrote: Is a person who has been visited by the Plague Doctor gain immunity for the remainder of the game? This subject will be touched upon in the Day 2 post. DUNN DUNN DUNNNNNN | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On October 29 2010 21:04 jcarlsoniv wrote: The way I'm sort of seeing this who situation is that this town circle is sort of like Congress. It's kinda of in the background, and they represent our votes. If we have good, experienced, town aligned players in this Congress, then we can have a lot of power in this game. If there is some mafia influence, how bad could it be for the town? An experienced player won't necessarily be influenced easily, and members of Congress will have to submit to a background check (everyone knows that politicians' lives aren't secret from anyone). Additionally, if Fishball is the mayor, his behavior will be heavily watched, and any scummy activity can be checked. Since no one else has really brought anything to the table, I believe that voting Fishball could be a *relatively* safe option. I reserve my judgement to see if/when another good candidate steps forward. This could be very bad for the town. This means that the say of the secret group will have more weight. If I'm sitting on the outskirts and the circle wants to lynch me, something tells me the mob mentality is going to be gunning me down, vs looking for a shadow behind this town circle veil. I'm very scared of the bandwagoning scenarios as it fucked the town over in the last game I played (mafia XXXI I believe...). We cannot play this game with the idea that the voices of the few will lead us to victory. That rarely happens, and can be really bad for the town if there is even ONE mafia player calling the shots. 2nd point: You're new so I won't yell at you for this... t.t It's _VERY_ easy to lie in this game. It's even easier to lie in a game where there's no visible structure. There is no list to check against, and the roles could be anything. Behavior will be a big part of this game, so you are on the right track there. What we need to do is stop worrying so much about how the blues will come and save us all. They are not the power-players of this game. The power-players are the townies who stand up and challenge the mass opinion. Ask questions. Analyze the other players. Learn who they are. There have been over THIRTY mafia games, and more than half of the players have played in at least one other game. Yah it's easy to adjust your tell, and you need to be cautious, but look for subtle changes in personality. I'll do you all a favor and save time: Don't analyze Ace. He's like a shape-shifter. He changes his personality game-to-game, so there's never a big paper trail. Analyze a player like me, and you'll notice consistency in my play (I am lazy ).Also... On October 29 2010 14:55 youngminii wrote: I buy fishball's story. I don't buy bum's. You know better. This is not your first rodeo YM.... It would be great if you could, oh I don't know... tell us WHY. That would be a good start. Idle posting is a good way to get the town on your back. You don't want that. Harass people (not like BillMurray does) to get mafia to pull a trigger on you. We can do more with more in this game. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Oh and Ace I sorta did that during the Harry Potter mafia when I ran for mayor. I don't recall if I directly said "because of my role I must be mayor," but I knew that my role was best placed in the position of power. | ||
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