On July 25 2010 08:02 SiNiquity wrote:]
Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head.
Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head.
same
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
July 24 2010 23:05 GMT
#2061
On July 25 2010 08:02 SiNiquity wrote:] Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head. same | ||
zeks
Canada1068 Posts
July 24 2010 23:05 GMT
#2062
SR claiming however has a lot less repercussions than citi.zen. Mafia is already out with a lead in this game is it even necessary to play such a huge gambit with citi.zen? What is the point of even taking such a risk? | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 24 2010 23:05 GMT
#2063
On July 25 2010 08:02 SiNiquity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 07:50 zeks wrote: On July 25 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote: On July 25 2010 07:40 SiNiquity wrote: I bet Tricode and BC are cackling maniacally at their good fortune. Kill a medic, claim 3rd hit + protection (both unverifiable), draw out the other 2 KP roles. Let them kill each other. Bonus is that they're both hatters instead of vigilantes. So much for 50/50. You bring up a very good point here, and I think everyone should read it. It is still possible that Tricode is the liar, and there are 2 Mad Hatters in the game. I would think Tricode's story is the most believable. Same, which is why I'm not voting for him. Had citi.zen said nothing, we would likely be lynching Tricode today to verify his claim (better safe than sorry, etc). If Tricode is innocent, then why should citi.zen say anything... to get in the circles before a counter-claim? But why? Why not just let us lynch Tricode, confirm his vigi-ness and do all this mess next day? Unless he's afraid DT circles would connect before then? This seems like a strong argument to me. Why would citi.zen come out now and not tomorrow, after we've lynched Tricode (and likely gained nothing)? What does Mafia have to gain from a ploy like this? ## Unvote citi.zen ## Vote Southrawrea Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head. You believe that BC, Tricode, and Southrawrea are all mafia? Because that's what citi.zen has been forced into arguing now, and that seems to be the point you're trying to push as well. I don't think we were anywhere close to lynching Tricode for confirmation, I'd call the premise of your argument unbelievable to begin with. He was our biggest resource, and there literally was no bandwagon for him forming at all. | ||
zeks
Canada1068 Posts
July 24 2010 23:06 GMT
#2064
He doesn't need to be medic protected He's been DT checked? | ||
SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
July 24 2010 23:06 GMT
#2065
On July 25 2010 08:00 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 07:59 tree.hugger wrote: On July 25 2010 07:50 citi.zen wrote: On July 25 2010 07:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 25 2010 07:41 lakrismamma wrote: On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: see bolded part. He wasn't actually cleared with no counterclaim for a reason I listed earlier which was this IF you were the mad hatter and you saw someone claim your role, You know instantly he's most likely red. You then wait a day, move your bomb to him get lynched following day (confirms both of you). Instead, he said "if no one claims im legit." He did however get a claim, regardless, his point was moot regardless. Agaisn you are using the fact that people are looking up to you to present some solutions that are not evident at all.Not everybody would play like this I sure as hell wouldn't. On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I most likely wont trust citizen until he proves to be trustworthy. He is far too inactive at this point for the plan he proposed. He has legimate concerns raised against him, a counter claim, etc.... Where is he? Nowhere to be found, instead people who have been semi inactive all game have decided to vouch for him. It comes of as extremely suspicious. Also, it has no matter where he placed his bombs. If he has them on reds or not. A dt circle is still confirmed, and as much as dead townies suck to have, they do lower the dt pool of checked targets finding reds faster. Anyone who flips red dies, then its a hunt for the gf. If you find three of one blue role, boom you found him, etc... I find it weird that you can chose between two people, oneof them is mafia. One you have already made a case against and told that he is most likely mafia. Still you vote on the other guy. Was you play earlier a scam to get people to trust you because you found Southrawrea as mafia? Simple, i based one persons scum level based on activity, and the person I am now voting for put out an option with holes and not only has not refuted them, has barely even touched the hatter claim. Instead he is rallying on "trust" to get him through without being here. What to you is more scummy? Someone proposing a make or break strategy with the idea of "trust me" while vanishing into the night, or someone who desperately wants to live. As for hatter play, maybe you wouldn't play like that BUT I am giving a logical idea of what someone might do. Just because you wouldn't do it, nor consider it a viable option is odd as your assuming someone else is completely legit, or that people always play this game under a normal sense of "logic". Not considering it a viable option because you wouldn't do it as other players might. You know offering South hasn't saved you, don't you? You just dug the hole deeper. You realized you've essentially just claimed that out of the three Town KP roles that have been claimed, two of them are mafia? You know that right? Where's the fourth claim? We need it now. Find the fourth claim. How does this post correlate in any way to the post you just quoted? Yea idk what tree is on. Tricode red => BC red, Tricode not red => BC _____ [aka implies nothing] | ||
BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
July 24 2010 23:07 GMT
#2066
You all are so timid about picking a side. Jesus Christ. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 24 2010 23:07 GMT
#2067
On July 25 2010 08:05 zeks wrote: People really need to evaluate how risky it was for citi.zen to claim the last MH role after most of the town agreeing with Tricode. SR claiming however has a lot less repercussions than citi.zen. Mafia is already out with a lead in this game is it even necessary to play such a huge gambit with citi.zen? What is the point of even taking such a risk? If it was any other player on TL, I'd be arguing this too. citi.zen loves these gambits though, and he's pulled them off time and time again. He shot L with no warning in the last game, and he completely made up a role that didn't exist to save himself in one of the other mafia games. (Can't remember.) citi.zen has balls. | ||
youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:07 GMT
#2068
But more importantly, pick SouthRawrea. There are four possible outcomes: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then we've taken out one red. We have a town member to form a circle around (SouthRawrea), and this player is 100% new to forum mafia. If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then ASSUMING citi.zen's already given the second DT party (his inactivity cough) AND if we rule out the possibility of TWO DT groups claiming to him, then we have a town circle with a DT. Two people needlessly die and if you all really think that citi.zen's scumhunting abilities are so good, then why don't you trust him on his SouthRawrea hunt? If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we gain a whole load of information with many implications (unfortunately no one listens to me anymore). We've got BC backed into a corner, we've got chaoser (imo) and a few more, AND we have a huge townie group with TWO DTs working together. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies. Only one death compared to two if citi.zen's Mad Hatter. I do think he's mafia and maybe you would too (directed at tree.hugger) if you got off your high horse and read my analysis posts once in a while. *** God I can't believe how fast you all just follow tree.hugger's bias 'situation report'. | ||
SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 23:08 GMT
#2069
On July 25 2010 08:06 zeks wrote: Someone explain to me how citi.zen can take out multiple roles - maybe I'm missing something here He doesn't need to be medic protected He's been DT checked? Allegedly DT checked ACCORDING TO HIM.. which means nothing lol. Nice. | ||
BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
July 24 2010 23:08 GMT
#2070
Make your own fucking decisions people. | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
July 24 2010 23:09 GMT
#2071
On July 25 2010 08:05 zeks wrote: People really need to evaluate how risky it was for citi.zen to claim the last MH role after most of the town agreeing with Tricode. SR claiming however has a lot less repercussions than citi.zen. Mafia is already out with a lead in this game is it even necessary to play such a huge gambit with citi.zen? What is the point of even taking such a risk? Also his death would confirm tricode who im guessing they would use they plan to either kill or use their bomb on, which would be convenient if citizen was the IT... hm, cant really come up with a solid solution to get a towny circle out of this, but im just glad our DTs and the medic will get another day to live | ||
SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 23:10 GMT
#2072
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 24 2010 23:10 GMT
#2073
On July 25 2010 08:06 SiNiquity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 08:00 youngminii wrote: On July 25 2010 07:59 tree.hugger wrote: On July 25 2010 07:50 citi.zen wrote: On July 25 2010 07:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 25 2010 07:41 lakrismamma wrote: On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: see bolded part. He wasn't actually cleared with no counterclaim for a reason I listed earlier which was this IF you were the mad hatter and you saw someone claim your role, You know instantly he's most likely red. You then wait a day, move your bomb to him get lynched following day (confirms both of you). Instead, he said "if no one claims im legit." He did however get a claim, regardless, his point was moot regardless. Agaisn you are using the fact that people are looking up to you to present some solutions that are not evident at all.Not everybody would play like this I sure as hell wouldn't. On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I most likely wont trust citizen until he proves to be trustworthy. He is far too inactive at this point for the plan he proposed. He has legimate concerns raised against him, a counter claim, etc.... Where is he? Nowhere to be found, instead people who have been semi inactive all game have decided to vouch for him. It comes of as extremely suspicious. Also, it has no matter where he placed his bombs. If he has them on reds or not. A dt circle is still confirmed, and as much as dead townies suck to have, they do lower the dt pool of checked targets finding reds faster. Anyone who flips red dies, then its a hunt for the gf. If you find three of one blue role, boom you found him, etc... I find it weird that you can chose between two people, oneof them is mafia. One you have already made a case against and told that he is most likely mafia. Still you vote on the other guy. Was you play earlier a scam to get people to trust you because you found Southrawrea as mafia? Simple, i based one persons scum level based on activity, and the person I am now voting for put out an option with holes and not only has not refuted them, has barely even touched the hatter claim. Instead he is rallying on "trust" to get him through without being here. What to you is more scummy? Someone proposing a make or break strategy with the idea of "trust me" while vanishing into the night, or someone who desperately wants to live. As for hatter play, maybe you wouldn't play like that BUT I am giving a logical idea of what someone might do. Just because you wouldn't do it, nor consider it a viable option is odd as your assuming someone else is completely legit, or that people always play this game under a normal sense of "logic". Not considering it a viable option because you wouldn't do it as other players might. You know offering South hasn't saved you, don't you? You just dug the hole deeper. You realized you've essentially just claimed that out of the three Town KP roles that have been claimed, two of them are mafia? You know that right? Where's the fourth claim? We need it now. Find the fourth claim. How does this post correlate in any way to the post you just quoted? Yea idk what tree is on. Tricode red => BC red, Tricode not red => BC _____ [aka implies nothing] I take that back, you're both right. I thought for a moment that the relationship between the two was the inverse of what is actually is. Fair point, but it just means that citi.zen didn't dig the whole I thought he dug. Doesn't make his post much better... | ||
youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:10 GMT
#2074
On July 25 2010 08:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 07:59 youngminii wrote: On July 25 2010 07:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 25 2010 07:56 youngminii wrote: @tree.hugger Except for the fact that we can go back and analyse all these posts if Southrawr dies. I'm already drawing links (publicly) to Southrawr and you're just blanketing the case on Southrawr. I don't know why you're doing this but okay. Say I'm silly and argue your case, I honestly don't know what's goign through your mind. dude your defending a guy whos only post in hours was a FoS on me. HE has ignored how many posts? seriously whats going through your mind. Better than siding with a guy who's many posts in many hours are filled with logical inconsistencies. How do we even know if citi.zen told the second DT party who his DT is? ... citizen if in the dt circle he claimed, wher ehe claimed he told the dt who to check day 2, has a confirmed townie (or he would have offered a red in his original plan). That townie can be the link that citizen wanted to be if citizen flips hatter as his circle just got instantly proven legit. Then the real dt could claim to that link, voila. Mafia faking the claim would get checked and off'd. How are you missing the obvious here? You speak about logical inconsistencies but are ignoring citizens, as well as your own. Wait you WANT DT to publicly claim? Are you kidding me? Did you forget Mafia have 2KP AND a suicide bomber in this game? | ||
SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
July 24 2010 23:11 GMT
#2075
On July 25 2010 08:08 BrownBear wrote: Town in this game = sheep, it's ridiculous. Make your own fucking decisions people. Agreed. I'm gone to the wedding. | ||
rastaban
United States2294 Posts
July 24 2010 23:12 GMT
#2076
From Citi.zen: + Show Spoiler + A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up. I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night. I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you. Let me know what we should do next. Thanks, He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm. | ||
youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:12 GMT
#2077
On July 25 2010 08:08 BrownBear wrote: Town in this game = sheep, it's ridiculous. Make your own fucking decisions people. Of course, haven't you read Doubt? Town is sheep and Mafia is wolf. | ||
zeks
Canada1068 Posts
July 24 2010 23:13 GMT
#2078
that day vig kill on L may seem legendary but he went back to human status after getting destroyed last game when he was GF (the game where he can recruit mafia) | ||
BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
July 24 2010 23:13 GMT
#2079
On July 25 2010 08:10 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 08:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 25 2010 07:59 youngminii wrote: On July 25 2010 07:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 25 2010 07:56 youngminii wrote: @tree.hugger Except for the fact that we can go back and analyse all these posts if Southrawr dies. I'm already drawing links (publicly) to Southrawr and you're just blanketing the case on Southrawr. I don't know why you're doing this but okay. Say I'm silly and argue your case, I honestly don't know what's goign through your mind. dude your defending a guy whos only post in hours was a FoS on me. HE has ignored how many posts? seriously whats going through your mind. Better than siding with a guy who's many posts in many hours are filled with logical inconsistencies. How do we even know if citi.zen told the second DT party who his DT is? ... citizen if in the dt circle he claimed, wher ehe claimed he told the dt who to check day 2, has a confirmed townie (or he would have offered a red in his original plan). That townie can be the link that citizen wanted to be if citizen flips hatter as his circle just got instantly proven legit. Then the real dt could claim to that link, voila. Mafia faking the claim would get checked and off'd. How are you missing the obvious here? You speak about logical inconsistencies but are ignoring citizens, as well as your own. Wait you WANT DT to publicly claim? Are you kidding me? Did you forget Mafia have 2KP AND a suicide bomber in this game? Yes because publically claiming is what happens when a dt talks to a confirmed link no? Are you purposely missing what im saying? Citizen if hes legit in his group has a dt, himself and one other, that one other would be who the dt claims to. AFTER citizen flips. there is no public to it. IF mafia try to fake claim the link (shouldnt as citizen would be offering up said info if he were about to die if he was town), so if mafia tries to fake claim dt, or fake claim the link to be claimed to (ie mulitple claimers) you can dt check and remove. Voila dead mafia. | ||
rastaban
United States2294 Posts
July 24 2010 23:13 GMT
#2080
Before the reveal of the other hatter, and asked for us to reveal the DTs | ||
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