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On August 19 2024 02:28 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:26 JJH777 wrote: Damn a gg with 8k/3k bank. I don't even necessarily think it was wrong but has that ever happened before in a premier tournament? Pretty sure there are some pvz with such outcome during the infested terran area
I remember the one with Stats where he had like 20k but I think that was just an online cup. Not sure it's ever happened in an event with real stakes.
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On August 19 2024 02:29 Glorfindel1989 wrote: For me who has been away for a long time, how good would 10 Swarm Hosts going in and out from Nyduses been in that game? Likely a waste of supply
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On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote: Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost? Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro. The good old "kill him before he gets there". Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.
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i hope all players go to the main stage and lift Clem in to the air. what a tournament he is playing
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On August 19 2024 02:30 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:27 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2024 02:26 Hider wrote: GGing with 8k/3k bank. Yes feels like Serral has given up. Expecting an all-in in game 5. There was nothing he coukd do against that army. The game was over before the fight. Clem is having the tournament of his life. It was over, but compare this to his loss vs Maru where didn't leave despite it being even more over for such a long time. In every other situation against any other player he would not have left there with there with this bank. He would have confidnece in his own micro to potentially turn it around. Clem was almost at Serrals natural. It was gg.
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France12738 Posts
Revenge for those 4-0 finals towards Maru. Please take a map Serral, make this a series
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On August 19 2024 02:29 Captain Peabody wrote: I think Artosis is right, Clem does actually look like he's playing better than anyone ever has--the speed, execution, precision, and strategy are all just there Well, there is still TvT that he need to improve upon, but he certainly has become the best TvZ player ever.
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On August 19 2024 02:30 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:28 Azzur wrote: When Serral crushes Maru, I'm sure all the Maru fanboys will be crying imbalance Not when Maru keep dying to early Roach attack like he did, nor when he nonchalantly doing Medivac drop against a max out army of Zerg. What Clem did here was perfect lategame execution, simple as that. Yep, my point is that it's all about Clem's skill, not imbalance
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holy fck looks like this will be 4:0, 4:0 and 5:0 after all
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Clem can win as many games as he wants against Serral, but nothing can stop Ryung from taking a map off him after some weird raven tank push
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On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote: Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op".
Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ???
Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win.
You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit.
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On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote: Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost? Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro. The good old "kill him before he gets there". Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here. Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem?
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On August 19 2024 02:28 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:26 Blitzball04 wrote: Hope they finally nerf ghosts just like how they nerfed the infestor after the tournament
Ghosts really is an embarrassing unit that counter everything Zerg and Protoss throws at them Ahahaha the salt is hilarious
Good to see you come out of your hole after crying how Maru got wrecked lol haha
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On August 19 2024 02:32 Starcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote: Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op". Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ??? Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win. You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit. Well, he beat Maru in that situation. So, like that
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I really wish this tournament would have had more open qualifier spots and less welfare region spots. It sucks not having Bunny or Rogue or DRG or Nightmare, all of whom are probably better than for example Coffee, Showtime, Spirit.
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On August 19 2024 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote: Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost? Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro. The good old "kill him before he gets there". Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here. Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem? Maybe. They've already gotten nerfed 3 times now, so the zerg cabal seems to think so
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On August 19 2024 02:34 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote: Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost? Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro. The good old "kill him before he gets there". Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here. Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem? Maybe. They've already gotten nerfed 3 times now, so the zerg cabal seems to think so Same as Ghosts
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Serral is looking better ever game but it may be too late
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On August 19 2024 02:32 Starcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote: Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op". Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ??? Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win. You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit.
Well Terran late game is op since 2010. They don’t need any scvs and can have free scans and have higher army.
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Northern Ireland22770 Posts
On August 19 2024 02:31 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2024 02:29 Captain Peabody wrote: I think Artosis is right, Clem does actually look like he's playing better than anyone ever has--the speed, execution, precision, and strategy are all just there Well, there is still TvT that he need to improve upon, but he certainly has become the best TvZ player ever. His peak is insane, I feel he needs to brutalise the majority of the Zerg field more consistently to get such an honour.
He can play like a god and step up a level, but frequently lose to players far below someone like Serral’s level too.
Quite odd really!
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