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On May 09 2024 21:01 negativedge wrote: not a great day for the "GSL isn't competitive anymore" contingent.
I'll admit, I thought Reynor would do better this time. Back to back 0-4 is so rough.
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On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
GIve gumiho some slack he is a gsl chmapion after all.
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Canada8973 Posts
Gumigod protect Korea!
I think Reynor need to go back to Europe, for some reason, his practice in Korea just isn't paying off. It's been a hard couple of months, early exit in Kato, missing the Starswar qualification, getting bopped in the EU regional, and now this. Hopefully he can find his form for the million dollar tournament.
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United States1750 Posts
On May 09 2024 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:00 Die4Ever wrote:On May 09 2024 20:56 Durnuu wrote:On May 09 2024 20:55 Tsubbi wrote: zerg is just in such a sad state right now, unfortunate to see reynor go at this point in time to korea soO didn't seem to have too much trouble dealing with GuMiho yea soO made Gumiho look bad lol, what That's just the soO effect tho. He either makes himself look bad or his opponent look bad whenever he plays.
No, it's because GuMiho played relatively standard against soO, but played bat shit crazy against Reynor because he knew that was the best way to win against Reynor, specifically.
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Reynor has been slumping for a while. Katowice was not just a bad tournament. Hope he gets his groove back soon.
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Fingers crossed Reynor will make another attempt at GSL.
He does have the skill to go far, but GSL is the hardest tournament on the planet (yes, even nowadays), and he seems to be in a bit of a slump recently.
Gumi played perfectly against Reynor. Weird, non-standard plays, risky at times.
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On May 09 2024 21:02 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
GIve gumiho some slack he is a gsl chmapion after all. Everyone in this tournament has been to the final of a GSL except Nightmare and Reynor, so he's the underdog
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On May 09 2024 21:03 Mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On May 09 2024 21:00 Die4Ever wrote:On May 09 2024 20:56 Durnuu wrote:On May 09 2024 20:55 Tsubbi wrote: zerg is just in such a sad state right now, unfortunate to see reynor go at this point in time to korea soO didn't seem to have too much trouble dealing with GuMiho yea soO made Gumiho look bad lol, what That's just the soO effect tho. He either makes himself look bad or his opponent look bad whenever he plays. No, it's because GuMiho played relatively standard against soO, but played bat shit crazy against Reynor because he knew that was the best way to win against Reynor, specifically.
Could also be that Gumiho was saving those builds for when he got pushed into a corner. It would be just like him to save his craziest builds for when he was most desperate.
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On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
I think Reynor is okay but Serral's fanatic fans make silly argument that Code S is just easy tournament that someone like Heromarine can advance in group stage. Even Serral's chance to advance in group stage is also questionable when we talked about the weeks preparation where he didn't contest much in his career.
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France12738 Posts
On May 09 2024 21:02 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
GIve gumiho some slack he is a gsl chmapion after all. He is, but he also is one of the weakest terrans in terms of mechanics Thankfully he compensates with good creativity
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On May 09 2024 21:03 True_Spike wrote: Fingers crossed Reynor will make another attempt at GSL.
He does have the skill to go far, but GSL is the hardest tournament on the planet (yes, even nowadays), and he seems to be in a bit of a slump recently. Katowice is the hardest. This was the toughest group though.
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Brutal, but let's not pretend like Reynor was coming into this anywhere near red-hot. In fact, the opposite. Really cheering for that Reynor comeback, he can make it happen.
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On May 09 2024 21:04 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
I think Reynor is okay but Serral's fanatic fans make silly argument that Code S is just easy tournament that someone like Heromarine can advance in group stage. Even Serral's chance to advance in group stage is also questionable when we talked about the weeks preparation. To be fair Serral has looked much better than Reynor ever since Gamers8 and Serral is more well rounded even when Reynor is playing well.
I don't think Serral would have any easy time winning GSL, but Reynor's performance doesn't tell us too much about how Serral would do.
GSL is still super hard. I think it's lost a lot of prestige because of the pitiful prize pool, but in terms of quality of play it's still tough.
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On May 09 2024 21:04 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Poopi wrote: So what was Reynor saying about Maru being #1 in the goat list already? At this point it’s comical how even during the lowest competitive era of GSL an international world champion can barely make the mid tier KR players sweat (cf. losses to Bunny and GuMiho now)
I think Reynor is okay but Serral's fanatic fans make silly argument that Code S is just easy tournament that someone like Heromarine can advance in group stage. Even Serral's chance to advance in group stage is also questionable when we talked about the weeks preparation where he didn't contest much in his career. Weeks to prepare for Serral too. He showed in Katowice that he can plan a series quite well in a few hours. People tend to think, that preparation onky benefits koreans.
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France12738 Posts
On May 09 2024 21:05 Pandain wrote: Brutal, but let's not pretend like Reynor was coming into this anywhere near red-hot. In fact, the opposite. Really cheering for that Reynor comeback, he can make it happen. Reynor only performs when Zerg is strong and he gets coached He is a budget Clem (mandatory /s)
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On May 09 2024 21:05 Pandain wrote: Brutal, but let's not pretend like Reynor was coming into this anywhere near red-hot. In fact, the opposite. Really cheering for that Reynor comeback, he can make it happen. Reynor still charging his chi for the back-to-back Saudi Arabia win.
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On May 09 2024 21:04 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:03 True_Spike wrote: Fingers crossed Reynor will make another attempt at GSL.
He does have the skill to go far, but GSL is the hardest tournament on the planet (yes, even nowadays), and he seems to be in a bit of a slump recently. Katowice is the hardest. This was the toughest group though. is this group actually the hardest?
Cure, Rogue, Stats, and Dark could be really strong if Rogue has kept improving since I last saw him play
Solar, DRG, Nightmare, Byun also sounds really difficult given how good Nightmare has been lately (he beat Reynor recently too lol)
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Canada8973 Posts
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On May 09 2024 21:03 Mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On May 09 2024 21:00 Die4Ever wrote:On May 09 2024 20:56 Durnuu wrote:On May 09 2024 20:55 Tsubbi wrote: zerg is just in such a sad state right now, unfortunate to see reynor go at this point in time to korea soO didn't seem to have too much trouble dealing with GuMiho yea soO made Gumiho look bad lol, what That's just the soO effect tho. He either makes himself look bad or his opponent look bad whenever he plays. No, it's because GuMiho played relatively standard against soO, but played bat shit crazy against Reynor because he knew that was the best way to win against Reynor, specifically. Reynor didnt really die or get massively behind on those early push from Gumiho, its his mis-handling of the situation in the lategame against Mech that ended his hope, seems like he couldnt winna fight anywhere on the map past mid-game. And I understand its hard to practice against that, because probably only Gumiho and maybe Maru play that style.
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On May 09 2024 21:07 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2024 21:05 Pandain wrote: Brutal, but let's not pretend like Reynor was coming into this anywhere near red-hot. In fact, the opposite. Really cheering for that Reynor comeback, he can make it happen. Reynor still charging his chi for the back-to-back Saudi Arabia win. another high latency win? lol
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