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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4762 Posts
October 20 2024 22:15 GMT
#87
LEE YOUNG HO, HE'S BACK. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Taxes are for Terrans
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
October 20 2024 23:28 GMT
#88
Happy I get to watch him play again. Still mesmerizing play.

Never seen this big a donation before, lol:

[image loading]
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8010 Posts
October 20 2024 23:42 GMT
#89
On October 21 2024 06:51 End1ess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 05:01 jinjin5000 wrote:
On October 21 2024 02:22 TMNT wrote:
Talking about universities and stuff, of course he'll join one soon. It's also the easiest to way to streamline your return smoothly.


seems like terror's uni


If is smart he wouldn’t want to join terror along with Bisu there remind people them two. Most like he will join K uni along with good boy image JD.

K uni is perfect ! With JD and Stork !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Souden
Profile Joined May 2023
36 Posts
October 21 2024 01:04 GMT
#90
Yay the Ultimate Weapon is back! I can't wait to see TaekBangLeeSsang (Bisu, Stork, JD, FlaSh) all in the same daily Proleague!
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 21 2024 01:34 GMT
#91
saw him lose to leta so he still has work to do
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
October 21 2024 02:02 GMT
#92
People have done way worse and are still popular/relevant. Let the man play.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
October 21 2024 07:32 GMT
#93
TvZ vs Terror/Chulgu (sharing vision) @Polypoid W
TvT vs Sea @Radeon W
TvT vs Leta @Radeon L
TvP vs Horang2 @Radeon W
TvP vs Horang2 @Minstrel W
TvP vs Best @Radeon L
TvP vs Best @Pantheon L

TvT vs 1888 @Radeon W
TvT vs ---- @Dominator W
TvT vs ---- @Dominator W
TvT vs 2008 @DejaVu W
TvP vs 2037 @DejaVu W
TvT vs 2094 @FS W
TvZ vs 2088 @Pantheon W
TvZ vs 2169 @FS W
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twitch.tv/dizzywee
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-21 10:00:03
October 21 2024 09:57 GMT
#94
From what I've seen this morning :
Flash < Killer (2-0)
Flash > Free
Flash < Stork
Flash > Mini
Flash > Calm
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
October 21 2024 12:18 GMT
#95
Flash still in love with his Qsenn DT35 ps2 ready to dominate everyone again :D
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 21 2024 12:54 GMT
#96
On October 21 2024 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Flash still in love with his Qsenn DT35 ps2 ready to dominate everyone again :D
[image loading]


Is that really good keyboard or it's just what they used to since I heard every PC cafe had them. I might end up shipping a one to see it myself.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-21 13:27:39
October 21 2024 13:18 GMT
#97
25k viewers for FlaSh!
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
`Myst
Profile Joined September 2024
16 Posts
October 21 2024 16:44 GMT
#98
On October 21 2024 21:54 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Flash still in love with his Qsenn DT35 ps2 ready to dominate everyone again :D
[image loading]


Is that really good keyboard or it's just what they used to since I heard every PC cafe had them. I might end up shipping a one to see it myself.


Its a $10 dollar rubber dome. Be ready to pay 10 times the price that it retails for in Korea.

P.S. it wont make you as fast as Bisu/FlaSh sorry
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
October 21 2024 18:16 GMT
#99
On October 22 2024 01:44 `Myst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 21:54 outscar wrote:
On October 21 2024 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Flash still in love with his Qsenn DT35 ps2 ready to dominate everyone again :D
[image loading]


Is that really good keyboard or it's just what they used to since I heard every PC cafe had them. I might end up shipping a one to see it myself.


Its a $10 dollar rubber dome. Be ready to pay 10 times the price that it retails for in Korea.



Not worth. It is a membrana Keyboard so for the long term is already a bad buy. FlaSh and effort were the only progamers using this keyboard as far as i know.

My recommendation for a nice keyboard is a mechanical keyboard with cherry silent switches. It is up to you to pick it TKL or not.
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-21 19:45:44
October 21 2024 19:43 GMT
#100
On October 21 2024 22:18 Glioburd wrote:
25k viewers for FlaSh!


Thats almost twenty times more than the entire sc2 scene on average
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-21 19:47:25
October 21 2024 19:47 GMT
#101
Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2701 Posts
October 21 2024 20:10 GMT
#102
On October 22 2024 04:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though.

If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts.
fsdrewfsdgh
Profile Joined October 2024
3 Posts
October 21 2024 20:48 GMT
#103
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
October 22 2024 03:33 GMT
#104
On October 22 2024 05:10 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2024 04:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though.

If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts.


First is like 21k over the course of many years and ASLs that is like 340k if my numbers are right.
Over that length of time it is peanuts though the total sum is a pretty nice stack.

I'm not sure how much revenue Korean streamers generate nor how effective their money is, but that does seem like peanuts when compared to what very popular twitch streamers make per year, some of who beat that total sum many times over in just one year. Totally doubling down on my ignorance on how much streams make over there or how far money goes.
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
130 Posts
October 22 2024 05:30 GMT
#105
On October 22 2024 12:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2024 05:10 TMNT wrote:
On October 22 2024 04:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though.

If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts.


First is like 21k over the course of many years and ASLs that is like 340k if my numbers are right.
Over that length of time it is peanuts though the total sum is a pretty nice stack.

I'm not sure how much revenue Korean streamers generate nor how effective their money is, but that does seem like peanuts when compared to what very popular twitch streamers make per year, some of who beat that total sum many times over in just one year. Totally doubling down on my ignorance on how much streams make over there or how far money goes.


Daily proleague so far is 4.3 million and not even 2 years has passed.... And the crazy thing is the prize money keeps on increasing. 10k a day is low these days.

And even that is low compared to the annual 8 million in donations cumulative to streamers.

Even only a top 100 streamer can earn close to 100k these days, which only S class pros could have done during Kespa.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 20:15:25
October 22 2024 20:01 GMT
#106
On October 22 2024 14:30 Expensive-Law-9830 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2024 12:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On October 22 2024 05:10 TMNT wrote:
On October 22 2024 04:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though.

If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts.


First is like 21k over the course of many years and ASLs that is like 340k if my numbers are right.
Over that length of time it is peanuts though the total sum is a pretty nice stack.

I'm not sure how much revenue Korean streamers generate nor how effective their money is, but that does seem like peanuts when compared to what very popular twitch streamers make per year, some of who beat that total sum many times over in just one year. Totally doubling down on my ignorance on how much streams make over there or how far money goes.


Daily proleague so far is 4.3 million and not even 2 years has passed.... And the crazy thing is the prize money keeps on increasing. 10k a day is low these days.

And even that is low compared to the annual 8 million in donations cumulative to streamers.

Even only a top 100 streamer can earn close to 100k these days, which only S class pros could have done during Kespa.


I tried to google it but I cannot find info on the proleague and prize pool. Someone said in another thread that the most recent match had a 10,000,000 KRW or like 7,000. I'm not sure of the prize pool split or whatever. So overall I'm not sure it speaks to how much or little money is made when compared to just streaming. This isn't me saying that is bad money for sort of a non-big-production proleague, just that it isn't anything that says that proleague or ASL or other small events is any better or worse than streaming. Obviously the very best of players probably win in both areas, but there are probably niche areas where some people do really well in one place or the other and make more money for themselves.

Edit your last line, top 100 streaming earn 100k. Is this factual? That seems pretty good? Top 100 is people who can't even qualify for an ASL. Though I think streaming is random and it isn't always about who is best, can lean on personality and content. Still if the top 100 can earn 100k that leads me to think that flat out streaming is most profitable, but perhaps competition dives viewership as well. I'm sure if like stork or like speed went to the finals it would certainly drive their viewership higher.
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