On November 15 2013 10:30 MarlieChurphy wrote: lol side note, my mom forgot to put the bags back in the car after using them last. Went to the store with my nephew and had to carry all the shit out without bags. So convenient
just wanted to bumpand say the ban was repealed . basically citing all the arguments i made beforehand that were correct. it was lifted in june. only problem is the state is banning/voting in november. im stocking up hard. ps- sorta ot but this whole ca drought issue is prettty similar in a lot of the ways. everyone is always trying to work small to big on environmental issues. or any issues for that matter. And that is just retarded. in reality like 90%+ of water use is agriculture and corporations and govt mismanage (evaporation etc). we have exports on things like raisins and alfalfa whic h we have massive stores of and companies like nestle exporting straight water. its all about money and the civilians even in100% mass cant dent the problem.
You had 2 years to adjust to a more ecologically sustainable way of carrying products and it wasn't enough? I can get plastic bags here and I still have these big carrying pouches that are more sturdy and can be reused.
I think there are valid arguments but I also think that Chmurphlie, you didn't even try.
I buy allegedly biodegradable (lol probably not) bags for trash and reusable foldable bags for carrying shit. Saving the world. GG
Plastic bags were banned where I live maybe 2 or 3 years ago. It's really not that hard to use a reusable bag, and if you forget, they give you a paper one. Were you really arguing that not giving out fresh plastic bags for pretty much every individual purchase at the supermarket won't reduce plastic use and waste?
you should read my arguments instead of asking to dumb thwm down and rewrite them. i was right and banning plastic bags had nothing in mind for companies but making money. ironically it backfired and hb shoppers just shopped out of town costing them more money they saved on bags by losing overall sales. so thn they act like " oh it wasnt helping the pollution". such obvious pandering bullshit.
also i dunno if i ever mentiond but maddox does abiggest problemin the universe podcast and he brought the bag ban in on an episode last year. he brought all these stats about how bullshit it was including that the so callled reuseable bags were causing the spread of disease and even deaths as well as slowing down commerce etc.
On September 04 2015 14:16 MarlieChurphy wrote: you should read my arguments instead of asking to dumb thwm down and rewrite them. i was right and banning plastic bags had nothing in mind for companies but making money. ironically it backfired and hb shoppers just shopped out of town costing them more money they saved on bags by losing overall sales. so thn they act like " oh it wasnt helping the pollution". such obvious pandering bullshit.
Rereading your arguments won't make them any better tbh. If you don't feel like legislation does it right, maybe do your own thing instead of reverting to "stocking up" plastic to plastic bags the second you can. This whole ordeal feels super juvenile. I migrated away from plastic bags myself when they forced the businesses to charge 5 cents for them and found it it was not at all inconvenient.
If your arguments 2 years later still revolve around how people will still just buy plastic bags, everyone I know uses reusable bags now. When I go do the groceries, 90% of the people carry their stuff to their car with reusable bags. Kids have foldable lunchboxes instead of bringing their food in plastic bags. All they did was make them cost a negligible amount of money while repeater "don't get plastic bags" over and over and everybody suddenly found out that plastic bags suck for most of the things they're used for anyway.
In your words: "Most importantly, People are not going to have the excess bags laying around their house anymore and are going to need to buy little trash bags to use for their little trash cans now"
Why would you want people to read your arguments MarlieChurphy? They've got numbers showing a steep decline in the use of plastic bags that were reused not because they were needed but because they were so widely available from being produced in absolutely ridiculous quantity.
If the lack of free plastic bags is inconveniencing you to the point where you need to make a thread where you build yourself some bonkers, weak arguments, perhaps you're just not the kind of people who can change their ways. Perhaps you're just bound to be old school. It takes humility to admit you've been doing something wrong. We've moved on in my town. You're stocking up on plastic bags. Think about it.
Bump. Lookie what i said coming true again, now they want to ban plastic straws. Btw bags are still around and grocery stores have the thicker ones everyone trashes just the same, and i just buy boxes from work for 3c a bag.
Only a matter of time until forks, spoons, plates, napkins, cups, etc are all banned. And we all have to carry around napsack full of shit everywhere.
ya, plastic bags is banned in long island NY a while ago. Upstate NY it's still around. I don't know enough hard data regarding how effective good this does for the environment. what % of people actually recycle their bags etc. I did get a few renewable grocery bags, they carry more stuff and I don't have to worry about having to pay extra at some places where plastic bags are banned. I do use them for little trash cans when I do get them so you're right about small utilities.
On August 17 2018 21:46 MarlieChurphy wrote: Bump. Lookie what i said coming true again, now they want to ban plastic straws. Btw bags are still around and grocery stores have the thicker ones everyone trashes just the same, and i just buy boxes from work for 3c a bag.
Only a matter of time until forks, spoons, plates, napkins, cups, etc are all banned. And we all have to carry around napsack full of shit everywhere.
Look at this:
What you see here is what happens to most of your garbage. The problem with plastics is that they are not biodegradable and now are going to be sitting as trash for the duration of our entire lives, our children's lives, and their children's lives. This is making beautiful beaches look horrible and is killing people and animals.
That video is random trash- prob in india, not plastic bits on the oceanic gyres. Im not saying pollution isnt a problem, but this regime of banning shit small to big is a con. Not to mention most of the plastics out there come from major polluters that arent the western world.
So no, most of my garbage does not end up in the ocean. We have a system here where we put trash, compost, and recycles into bins. And once a week we pay taxes so dudes in cool trucks take them to be processed, repurporsed, or buried. Nice try
On August 22 2018 08:28 MarlieChurphy wrote: That video is random trash- prob in india, not plastic bits on the oceanic gyres. Im not saying pollution isnt a problem, but this regime of banning shit small to big is a con. Not to mention most of the plastics out there come from major polluters that arent the western world.
So no, most of my garbage does not end up in the ocean. We have a system here where we put trash, compost, and recycles into bins. And once a week we pay taxes so dudes in cool trucks take them to be processed, repurporsed, or buried. Nice try
95% of plastic waste in the oceans comes from just 10 rivers, all either in Africa or Asia, stuff like banning straws and plastic bags is a complete joke.
See, when you outsource your trash, it's easier to make it ending up in the ocean someone else's fault.
An estimated 111 million metric tons of plastic waste will be displaced by 2030 as a result of China’s recent ban on the import of most plastic waste, according to new research.
That decision means the U.S. and other industrialized countries that have been exporting their plastic waste to China for "recycling" will need to find new ways to handle the disposal of their trash as much of it is already starting to pile up in landfills.
Be another thousand years before bio-degradable plastic bags will be universal, I use my regular plastic bags for my rubbish bin after getting the grocery. I don't understand how average families manage to fill up those massive garbage bags unless they are tossing them out everyday at less than half capacity.
On August 22 2018 08:28 MarlieChurphy wrote: That video is random trash- prob in india, not plastic bits on the oceanic gyres. Im not saying pollution isnt a problem, but this regime of banning shit small to big is a con. Not to mention most of the plastics out there come from major polluters that arent the western world.
So no, most of my garbage does not end up in the ocean. We have a system here where we put trash, compost, and recycles into bins. And once a week we pay taxes so dudes in cool trucks take them to be processed, repurporsed, or buried. Nice try
I agree, India and China do a lot of polluting. That doesn't mean we shouldn't lead the way in trying to reduce our own pollution so we don't contribute to that whole mess.