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RowdierBob
Australia12667 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
On July 12 2018 05:35 Faruko wrote: I think Modric has a fair chance of being Ballon d'Or honestly I am a bit biased, but i think he does have legitimate chance. Dude gave it all and carried this team to the finals. | ||
Faruko
Chile34161 Posts
On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything | ||
HolydaKing
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Faruko
Chile34161 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34161 Posts
with the pace of Perisic and the strength of Mandzukic. nice there pande | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 12 2018 06:28 Faruko wrote: Oh, and i think this England with a few key pieces (a CM/AM) a proper CF (Kane is sick but if he keeps disappearing when needed England definitely needs another top tier forward), a bit more mature and they can win next Euro with a little luck I agree, this England is sure to win something in the future. We are already going to be facing them again in Euro League this autumn and I expect they win this time. Our players are not going to be very motivated and they will want to take their revenge on us. | ||
ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
Croatia managed to win 4 overtimes(3 pk), they should be exhausted now, right? | ||
Grettin
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 12 2018 07:03 ivancype wrote: Good, England is not in the finals, such untalented team that lost to get a better bracket should not go that far. Hopefully they lose again to Belgium. Croatia managed to win 4 overtimes(3 pk), they should be exhausted now, right? 3 overtimes and 2 pk. And they are not exhausted, they are being powered by belief, grit and rocks instead of balls. When Mbappe sees them on the field he will immediately poop into his diapers. | ||
lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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nojok
France15837 Posts
https://streamable.com/uaz8v | ||
GTR
51164 Posts
On July 12 2018 06:52 -Archangel- wrote: I agree, this England is sure to win something in the future. We are already going to be facing them again in Euro League this autumn and I expect they win this time. Our players are not going to be very motivated and they will want to take their revenge on us. england youth teams won the u-20 and u-17 last few years ago, so it'd be a shock (gasp) if they didn't win anything major within the next decade. | ||
mahrgell
Germany3860 Posts
On July 12 2018 07:42 nojok wrote: Wow that counter attack from England! Can't believe the TV did not show it! https://streamable.com/uaz8v About half the teams had this weird misunderstanding about the kickoff rule in this tournament. All those teams doing those "one lone guy must stay in the opponents half, while the rest goes to the town for party" goal celebrations were showing it. And when asked they all cited a not existing rule. And England weren't the first one either to try to 'exploit' the other team not following this stupid shit. Other teams did this before this WC. Yo, surprise.... There is no such imaginary rule and it always gets called off. In short: kickoff is allowed when the ref whistles it and all players are in their own half. The rule is not "you can kickoff as soon as no player is in your half (like them being at the stands celebrating)". | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11444 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote: Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. | ||
DucK-
Singapore11444 Posts
On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote: Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Good news is england doesn't have a talented squad XD so that works for him! | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 12 2018 12:36 DucK- wrote: Good news is england doesn't have a talented squad XD so that works for him! Well at the current rate of English clubs spending money on importing expensive players, I'm concerned the local talents won't have room to grow. Their whatever 17s or 20s will probably spending their time on the bench for 1 or 2 seasons before going out on loan to have their career at a lower tier league. Spain and Germany have been successful internationally because their top clubs support the growth of local talent. | ||
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