On December 08 2017 02:28 Eclipsing Binary wrote: deadlifting with 12-sided plates (instead of round) is the most annoying thing ever, I don't know how anyone does it lol
On December 08 2017 04:40 Jerubaal wrote: What's the problem with them? Are you complaining about hitting a corner when you let it down?
They don't settle back to the same spot. So if the bar doesn't get set back down exactly as it was picked up, you can't just roll it into position. You have to either reeposition yourself, cause each side result in the bar moving several inches or more. That or physically pick up one end of the bar and twirl it around where you want.
Also, what I wouldn't give to have a gym with farmers walk handles. I really, really like farmer's walks; but dumbbells aren't the greatest. They work in a pinch, but when they start to tilt the end of the dumbell starts pressing into your wrist...and a 100+lbs edge pushing into your hands get painful quick. Other downside is they only go up to 125 here, I'll probably exhaust them in a few weeks. Can always add time, but I like doing them heavier and really working the grip.
On December 07 2017 04:59 FFGenerations wrote: put a thinner/smaller weight under each of your heels and try squatting your mobility and hence form should be 10x improved by doing that
the other thing is, in my opinion, and i dont seem to ever seem this mentioned - although it is confirmably true if you think about the application of front squats - is that variations in your stance will (again in my opinion) drastically and effectively work your muscle in a variety of degrees.
i spent years squatting with the same wide stance, but not long ago tried with a very narrow stance (made possible because i put weights under my heels). the difference was astounding and i feel like it worked the inner portion of my legs really powerfully. this was immediately transferrable to deadlift iirc, where i also saw a huge boost, and of course in my overall leg strength.
now days i might do something like 3 sets of regular stance squats, then 2 sets of a narrow stance that shifts the weight, then finish with 1-2 sets of a very shallow, wide-legged squat after removing the plates from my heels (my mobility is shite still). this is extraordinarily satisfying, and like i said transfers very well to deadlift
you guys used to do a similar thing - front squats as well as back squats. why i don't hear about these anymore? i guess decaff moved on to competition stuff, others moved on etc
This makes sense. Narrow stance is going to be very quad dominant, so it should be hitting your legs pretty hard. Putting a plate under could work, but to me that seems like a temporary band aid.
Interesting it helped your deadlift that much. Do you pull sumo?
it is a temporary bandaide so to speak, but it depends how long it takes for you to improve your mobility. 2 months? 6 months? 5 years (like me)? im 100000x happier doing good-form squats with a plate under my heel
i dont pull sumo no. but my squat is like 60kg , so 'anything' that activates me in a new way is gonna give a massive boost for me
honestly to think how little base muscle i had - ask me a few years ago and i would tell you i cant crouch down for more than a few seconds and get back up again... i mean, i remember doing it at work and thinking 'damn i suck' lol. hell, one of my gym goals in like 2013 was 'to be able to open the doors at work without looking like an invalid'
but ya nice to see you doing front squats and mixin it up servo, feelsgoodman
On December 07 2017 04:59 FFGenerations wrote: put a thinner/smaller weight under each of your heels and try squatting your mobility and hence form should be 10x improved by doing that
the other thing is, in my opinion, and i dont seem to ever seem this mentioned - although it is confirmably true if you think about the application of front squats - is that variations in your stance will (again in my opinion) drastically and effectively work your muscle in a variety of degrees.
i spent years squatting with the same wide stance, but not long ago tried with a very narrow stance (made possible because i put weights under my heels). the difference was astounding and i feel like it worked the inner portion of my legs really powerfully. this was immediately transferrable to deadlift iirc, where i also saw a huge boost, and of course in my overall leg strength.
now days i might do something like 3 sets of regular stance squats, then 2 sets of a narrow stance that shifts the weight, then finish with 1-2 sets of a very shallow, wide-legged squat after removing the plates from my heels (my mobility is shite still). this is extraordinarily satisfying, and like i said transfers very well to deadlift
you guys used to do a similar thing - front squats as well as back squats. why i don't hear about these anymore? i guess decaff moved on to competition stuff, others moved on etc
This makes sense. Narrow stance is going to be very quad dominant, so it should be hitting your legs pretty hard. Putting a plate under could work, but to me that seems like a temporary band aid.
Interesting it helped your deadlift that much. Do you pull sumo?
it is a temporary bandaide so to speak, but it depends how long it takes for you to improve your mobility. 2 months? 6 months? 5 years (like me)? im 100000x happier doing good-form squats with a plate under my heel
i dont pull sumo no. but my squat is like 60kg , so 'anything' that activates me in a new way is gonna give a massive boost for me
honestly to think how little base muscle i had - ask me a few years ago and i would tell you i cant crouch down for more than a few seconds and get back up again... i mean, i remember doing it at work and thinking 'damn i suck' lol. hell, one of my gym goals in like 2013 was 'to be able to open the doors at work without looking like an invalid'
but ya nice to see you doing front squats and mixin it up servo, feelsgoodman
Were you super skinny? Like 5'8"/170cm 50kg skeletor?
I'm a little curious though. 60kg for a squat? Is your training consistent? Sounds like you've been around the gym for several years and are only just squatting a wheel, which seems off.
On December 07 2017 15:44 L_Master wrote: Next round of form check for deadlift. I'm encouraged I've got things tightened up and I don't feel like I'm stressing my back as much with a better, tighter setup and getting away from thinking about pulling with arms back.
Not sure if I'm getting everything, especially setup, quite dialed in though.
Looks pretty good. I'd like to see you try and get your back a bit flatter by pulling your shoulders back and down and using your core for your lumbar, but overall solid lifting and looks like you're moving well.
On November 28 2017 13:15 FFGenerations wrote: ^ was totally expecting then & now photos tbh, disappoint, will not eat less
And as promised:
Fat Eric (85-90kg, approx 173cm), circa start of college:
Less fat Eric (65kg):
Although this will probably horrify most of you, realistically for pure cycling I wanted to be 3-5 kg lighter, but spent 90% of my riding about 68-70kg.
Great progress, aesthetically I'm sure you'll look better by gaining muscle than losing fat. A few kilos on your shoulder/back/traps and you'll be the buffest thriathlete.
Pulimuli, that's actually inspiring because you could probably be a kilo or two lighter to be absolutely shredded, which still keeps the BW reasonable. I've got a big engine, so I can do most races okay at the lower end of 70kg. I think for a 5'8" guy, if you stay really lean max muscular potential is usually around 80kg, which is still within reasonable.
As much as I like powerlifting already, I probably won't chase being 80kg+, it's just too much to drag around in hilly Colorado. Would be pretty cool if I could total say, 1200 or so, and run sub 5 mile at the same time. Long way for that though. I'll worry about 800 first
On December 09 2017 13:30 L_Master wrote: Pulimuli, that's actually inspiring because you could probably be a kilo or two lighter to be absolutely shredded, which still keeps the BW reasonable. I've got a big engine, so I can do most races okay at the lower end of 70kg. I think for a 5'8" guy, if you stay really lean max muscular potential is usually around 80kg, which is still within reasonable.
As much as I like powerlifting already, I probably won't chase being 80kg+, it's just too much to drag around in hilly Colorado. Would be pretty cool if I could total say, 1200 or so, and run sub 5 mile at the same time. Long way for that though. I'll worry about 800 first
yeah im a bit too fat now acutally xD would like to be a little lighter since i do gymnastics/calisthenics the extra weight isnt helping at all.
Yeah the more mass you have the harder it will be for you in endurance races
On December 10 2017 11:20 Jerubaal wrote: @L_Master- I'm disappointed. I was hoping for morbidly obese. Not "frat boy fat:.
@Pulimuli- Please report the the Handicapper-General
What type of shoes are you guys using? I squat olympic style so sneakers have worked for me, but they don't work for deadlift.
Haha, I never claimed to be that fat. Was probably pushing 25-30% at my worst. I always has fitness though, I remember even in PE in ninth grade we had the usual mile shit, and I really wanted to beat a classmate and ended up running 6:57. Not too bad for a tubby, largely sedentary dude.
Shoewise, it's a disaster for me. I'm using shitty old running shoes, which combined with our smooth floors is fucking lame. I remember IgnE mentioning "slovenly toe angle" and I tried to correct that, starting more in and thinking of screwing feet to floor...well my shoes can't grip this floor, so no matter what the toes are headed out.
Makes it hard to get rooted for leg drive on bench as well. Deadlift is the only one where I feel okay in shoes, but I'd still prefer to deadlift barefoot (not allowed at CSU). I'd really like to find a proper lifting gym, CSU has lots of equipment but also stupid rules, and also get better shoes...but right now there is no extra cash flow. Fingers crossed for Christmas on the shoes at least.