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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 28 2017 16:18 GMT
#3801
Does anyone have any thoughts on the deadlift bar that is shaped like a hexagon where you stand in the middle and lift as opposed to the straight bar that sits in front of you?

I find that my squat is not as deep with the hex bar and (possibly?) as a result I can lift a fair bit more weight with that bar rather than the straight bar. Im not sure exactly whats at work here, because its noticable difference in weight (3x5x270) for the hex bar and closer to 3x5x230 for the straight bar.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 28 2017 17:17 GMT
#3802
On November 29 2017 01:18 Aveng3r wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts on the deadlift bar that is shaped like a hexagon where you stand in the middle and lift as opposed to the straight bar that sits in front of you?

I find that my squat is not as deep with the hex bar and (possibly?) as a result I can lift a fair bit more weight with that bar rather than the straight bar. Im not sure exactly whats at work here, because its noticable difference in weight (3x5x270) for the hex bar and closer to 3x5x230 for the straight bar.


Hex bar is same thing as trap bar right? I can't really picture how you squat with that, no way you can put it on your shoulders... so I guess ROM would be limited by the plates limiting bar descent so it's going to be some half squat, that will have a grip component like a deadlift? In fact, I can't really picture this as anything but a deadlift type movement, it's fundamentally a pull from the floor.

I would think grip would be the limiting factor, I can't imagine your grip being able to hold onto more than your legs can push up.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 28 2017 17:25 GMT
#3803
stand on some plates and you fix the depth problem if you want something closer to a squat

people deadlift more than they squat usually . . . grip is not an issue if you train it. i think of regular trap-bar lifts as more like a deadlift
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 28 2017 17:50 GMT
#3804
No no both bars are used to deadlift in my first post, I used the term "squat" to illustrate the act of bending the knees to grasp the bar before the lift

Standing on some plates to get a deeper "squat" isnt a bad idea
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 28 2017 20:11 GMT
#3805
Ah well if the trap bar has you starting from a higher position then it's more like doing a rack pull, and more weight for obvious reasons.

It's also possible the different setup and musculature involved allows for more weight for you, as could the weight being directly to your side rather than in front.

Never used trap bar though, so I can't say 100%
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Pulimuli1
Profile Joined August 2017
33 Posts
November 28 2017 20:33 GMT
#3806
On November 29 2017 05:11 L_Master wrote:
Ah well if the trap bar has you starting from a higher position then it's more like doing a rack pull, and more weight for obvious reasons.

It's also possible the different setup and musculature involved allows for more weight for you, as could the weight being directly to your side rather than in front.

Never used trap bar though, so I can't say 100%


Center of mass is pretty much the same as your center of mass instead of being in front of you, thats probably why
pink_disaster
Profile Joined November 2017
15 Posts
December 01 2017 12:46 GMT
#3807
On November 29 2017 00:47 FFGenerations wrote:
coz protein has fuck all calories, you might as well be drinking carrot juice or whatever million other thing your coworker will tell you works because they were brought up to be dumb af probably because of religion. one day i'm gonna print a book, i tell you, itll say 'eat natural food only, in reasonably sized portions, and you'll lose weight and live 10 yrs longer' and i swear no1 will fuckin buy it

Not sure about that. For some people protein diets really help for losing weight and especially when you combine it with exercises.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 01 2017 18:19 GMT
#3808
On November 28 2017 13:15 FFGenerations wrote:
^ was totally expecting then & now photos tbh, disappoint, will not eat less


Bahaha, I'll see if I can dig up some tubby HS pics.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 03 2017 19:07 GMT
#3809
prawns went a bit small in my air fryer

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mm yeah taste kinda.... gonna put them in the fridge for later methinks

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
December 03 2017 20:47 GMT
#3810
Dude that looks gnarly as fuck lol
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 03 2017 23:23 GMT
#3811
yeah it does. FFG's always got the gnarly food
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 04 2017 00:09 GMT
#3812
i'm not gonna defend this one
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 04 2017 03:02 GMT
#3813
For whatever it's worth while we're on the topic of cooking, my favorite resource for all things cooking is Kenji Lopez Alt/Food Lab/Serious Eats. Definitely escalated my game. You'd be surprised how many things you didn't care for are actually delicious when you just cook them properly.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 04 2017 11:48 GMT
#3814
That sandwich makes me uncomfortable.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
December 04 2017 16:03 GMT
#3815
On December 04 2017 20:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
That sandwich makes me uncomfortable.


This.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 05 2017 00:20 GMT
#3816
still in the fridge if anyone wants it. trying to forget about it
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
December 05 2017 04:56 GMT
#3817
Holy fuck aldi has grass fed beef for 4.50 /lb.

had a proper lift for the first time in weeks. Did sets of 5 squats up to 150kg (barely) omg so fucking weak.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 05 2017 11:45 GMT
#3818
Decaf, what part of the states are you in that Aldi is stocking decent food, or are you going to a suburban one.

We just had Hy Vee open in MN, which has been my grocer of choice since. There is an Aldi in Saint Paul, but it is not well stocked.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
December 05 2017 17:18 GMT
#3819
Nah it's a city one, in chicago
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 05 2017 18:25 GMT
#3820
On December 06 2017 02:18 decafchicken wrote:
Nah it's a city one, in chicago

What like Lincoln Park, Skokie or the north side then?
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