Huge bump, seeing how I couldn't find a thread on the movie.
Josh Whedon has pretty much taken over the movie and has been doing reshoots for several months(?) I think. So this is either good or very bad.
From the outside, Warner Bros. looks like it's riding high, with the latest movie from its DC Comics Extended Universe, "Wonder Woman," now the highest-grossing movie of the summer.
But Variety is reporting a different vibe inside the studio, specifically for its next big DC release, "Justice League."
The movie that will combine some of the biggest superheros from the DC Comics — Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg — is going through some extensive reshoots. Approximately $25 million of them, in fact.
Though it's common for huge studio movies to have reshoots, recently the practice has become major news due to the end-result of some big titles. Reshoots were praised after the huge success of "Rogue One," though they led to mixed results for "Suicide Squad" (which was critically slaughtered, but earned over $750 million worldwide).
Now, it's time for "Justice League" to go through the ringer.
It seems the reshoots are extensive. Reshoots typically go for a few weeks, but for "Justice League" they have gone on for two months, sources tell Variety.
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
Flashpoint would be awesome, at least animated movie was very good.
Steel Superman? Not sure it is time to present different character, I think they are following Superman Reborn script so it's a bit early.
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
Flashpoint would be awesome, at least animated movie was very good.
Steel Superman? Not sure it is time to present different character, I think they are following Superman Reborn script so it's a bit early.
At this point in the DCEU, they can do pretty much anything they want. They're gonna Flashpoint it and redo it anyway. Snyder-verse didn't work. As Feige did with Marvel and Disney, Johns will do with DC and WB.
I'm hoping it's Lex Luthor in his new suit. THAT would be awesome. In Superman Reborn, he donned a fake Supes body and went to protect the world, so who knows.
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
Flashpoint would be awesome, at least animated movie was very good.
Steel Superman? Not sure it is time to present different character, I think they are following Superman Reborn script so it's a bit early.
At this point in the DCEU, they can do pretty much anything they want. They're gonna Flashpoint it and redo it anyway. Snyder-verse didn't work. As Feige did with Marvel and Disney, Johns will do with DC and WB.
I'm hoping it's Lex Luthor in his new suit. THAT would be awesome. In Superman Reborn, he donned a fake Supes body and went to protect the world, so who knows.
Highly doubt about Luthor at this point, considering he's in a prison atm, but it would be cool. I hope they are interested in showing lanterns lore which is fun and got a lot to offer in terms of stories.
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
Flashpoint would be awesome, at least animated movie was very good.
Steel Superman? Not sure it is time to present different character, I think they are following Superman Reborn script so it's a bit early.
At this point in the DCEU, they can do pretty much anything they want. They're gonna Flashpoint it and redo it anyway. Snyder-verse didn't work. As Feige did with Marvel and Disney, Johns will do with DC and WB.
I'm hoping it's Lex Luthor in his new suit. THAT would be awesome. In Superman Reborn, he donned a fake Supes body and went to protect the world, so who knows.
Highly doubt about Luthor at this point, considering he's in a prison atm, but it would be cool. I hope they are interested in showing lanterns lore which is fun and got a lot to offer in terms of stories.
If you think Luthor is going to remain in prison for very long, at any point, ever, in the DC, you've gotta read some more comics. If they were going to introduce GL, they wouldn't be sitting on this, and the floor wouldn't have been shaking when he walked in. Clark would fly/hover. So would GL.
On July 27 2017 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Aquaman looks badass :O
Any weird ideas who is standing in front of Alfred in the end? First impression it is Sups or Green Lantern (not human). But I wanna bet for Saint Walker, because of HOPE was mentioned by Alfred.
P.S. Few days ago touched "Watchmen" movie, and still impressed how good it was o.o hope they gonna touch multiverse at some point
Steel Superman or Lex Luthor are my guesses. Both showed up at different times when Supes was missing/dead.
And they are working on moving past the Snyder-verse. Introducing Flash: Flashpoint is a guarantee that they want to move past what Snyder laid out and go in the direction Geoff Johns and DC.
Flashpoint would be awesome, at least animated movie was very good.
Steel Superman? Not sure it is time to present different character, I think they are following Superman Reborn script so it's a bit early.
At this point in the DCEU, they can do pretty much anything they want. They're gonna Flashpoint it and redo it anyway. Snyder-verse didn't work. As Feige did with Marvel and Disney, Johns will do with DC and WB.
I'm hoping it's Lex Luthor in his new suit. THAT would be awesome. In Superman Reborn, he donned a fake Supes body and went to protect the world, so who knows.
Highly doubt about Luthor at this point, considering he's in a prison atm, but it would be cool. I hope they are interested in showing lanterns lore which is fun and got a lot to offer in terms of stories.
If you think Luthor is going to remain in prison for very long, at any point, ever, in the DC, you've gotta read some more comics. If they were going to introduce GL, they wouldn't be sitting on this, and the floor wouldn't have been shaking when he walked in. Clark would fly/hover. So would GL.
But actors for Hal Jordan/John Stewart remains unknown, so it should be...Abin Sur? Highly doubt about Killawog or Sinestro. Basicly anyone except human GL's.
Point about Luthor. Current Lex is far from comic version - I think u've noticed Who knows what they gonna do with such villain. And also we know Steppenwolf is a villain in a Justice League movie.
Batman Notes shared set photos of two new reshoot sites in the United Kingdom including Southill Estate in Bedfordshire. The aesthetic of the sprawling property is very reminiscent of the Wayne Manor causing fans to immediately assume that it is a stand-in for the family-owned mansion. Further fueling the speculations is the recent spotting of Affleck in the area.
The second location is the brick covered Shorts Building where the crew was snapped while hard at work in setting up the place for scheduled filming. On top of the structure’s front doorway, there is a sign that reads “Lakeview Apartments” which could mean that one of the members of the League is living in the property, possibly Barry Allen.
Prior to filming in the two new aforementioned venues, shooting supposedly took/is taking place at the Southill Lake and Woods and given the site’s water access, it could potentially be for new Aquaman close-up shots. Although, it is important to note that since the lake is part of the massive lot where the earlier mentioned manor in Southill Park is located, the scenes being shot may be connected to Bruce.
This massive additional work is reportedly causing some problems at Warner Bros. On top of the recently controversial Cavill mustache kerfuffle due to the actor’s filming conflict with Paramount’s Mission: Impossible 6, the extended reshoots being done on Justice League is costing the film studio an extra $25 million – a significantly high price compared to the usual backup budget reshoots have for just $10 million.
Provided that the Whedon reshoots are being done on location instead of just on a closed-off set, it is not difficult to imagine Justice League‘s budget growing rapidly. That said, the visuals that these sites offer seem to add to the visual appeal of the film with its sweeping landscape and realistic set pieces.
So Snyder has basically destroyed an entire section of the DC universe. Thanks Warner Bros.
Reshoots are a normal part of any major film: fixing everything from continuity errors to how certain scenes fundamentally played out. Famously, Ben Kingsley went into reshoots for Iron Man 3 believing that the studio was going to make them reshoot the Mandarin twist ending into something more in line with the comic books. Justice League’s final round of reshoots, which evidently cost upwards of $25 million, were anything but typical. They evidently overhauled the entire film: making sweeping change to the main characters, fundamentally altering the tone and cutting out lead-ins to the now-canceled Justice League Part 2.
By all accounts, Joss Whedon shot a completely different movie from the one that Zack Snyder originally made. And even though the new trailers – which were supposed to reflect and sell these changes to the movie-going public – were unabashedly terrible, the film’s new direction and Whedon’s involvement were enough to make fans of the franchise hopeful for an improvement over the series’ shaky foundations.
Now a week out from the film’s release, people have seen the movie. And when the social media embargo – NOT the review embargo – finally lifted, the results were surprisingly positive. Rather than the deluge of negative press that many anticipated leading into the Frankensteined blockbuster, most praised it for the demonstrable improvements that it made compared to its predecessors.
Thank God for small miracles, I guess.
Looking through the fresh perspectives on the upcoming blockbuster, most reactions appear to be mixed. While not on par with The Avengers – or even Wonder Woman, for that matter – most called it a fun, if flawed, movie that was in line with most bloated, studio-driven, multi-million dollar blockbusters. Paul Shirley of Joblo.com called it “a fun, bumpy ride that succeeds in character, but fails in narrative. It’s a mixed bag of execution that’s saved by the actors, who rise above the shortcomings to deliver an engaging, funny and hopeful, yet flawed, entry to the DCEU.”
Erik Davis of Fandango said that it “is better than BvS and #SuicideSquad – it’s lean, mean & packed w/ superhero action. I dug most of its lighter moments & I think it has one of the best action sequences ever in a DCEU movie. And of course Wonder Woman steals the show.” Haleigh Foutch of Collider said that the movie is “solid entertainment despite some problems. They pulled off a strange alchemy that works better than it should. The story is lacking, but the League is great and it’s a blast to watch them in action together. Wonder Woman is clutch, obvi.”
More and more critics have similarly weighed in, mostly to the same end. The movie is perfectly alright. It’s better than its terribly reviewed forebears. The characters, and especially Wonder Woman, work well in it. It’s lighter and funnier than previous entries, although the story, direction, villain and special effects are a mixed, less-than-functional bag.
It appears, at least preliminarily, that the movie won’t go down as the titanic mess than most had assumed it was going to be. It’s important to note, however, that this is just the social media embargo, not the full review embargo. It allows those rare few who have seen it in advance to give condensed, initial impressions (often in less than 140 characters). These are not full reviews, detailed opinions nor ringing endorsements. They roughly sketch out “it could have been worse” and “this might not tank the DCEU” across social media sites like Facebook and Twitter.
The rest of us won’t have to wait long to find out how good (or bad) the movie is for ourselves. Justice League opens next week.
I didn't know this ? I really liked Man of Steel (also B v S, even if it had flaw) they really are going to reboot everything... man... also I don't like these reshot, DC was perfect with its dark tones...
the movie was a letdown. no real substance to it. i mean I get that superhero movies don't have to have the best plot, but how everything was construed together felt cheap. it basically felt like a superhero photoshoot and the villain was there to make them look good.
Haven't seen the movie yet but given that they have to introduce 3 new superheroes, make them fight together, probably reintroduce superman somewhere along the way and build up a villain out of nowhere im going to go ahead and claim that this movie is probably too fast paced?
On November 17 2017 21:16 Kipsate wrote: Haven't seen the movie yet but given that they have to introduce 3 new superheroes, make them fight together, probably reintroduce superman somewhere along the way and build up a villain out of nowhere im going to go ahead and claim that this movie is probably too fast paced?
Quite the opposite. The first half of the movie felt a bit slow because the entire half is spent getting the team together and introducing the new members.
In between, there are some shots of the bad guy appearing and doing his thing. I thought the first half was alright, no complaints.
The second half was essentially 3 drawn out scenes: 1) save some ppl and find this movie's object with unimaginable power 2) resurrect superman 3) fight bad guy
With some minor talking in between ofc, but that's how I would sum up the 2nd half.
It was an alright movie. What annoyed me, and what will always be the problem of the DCEU, is that Superman saves the day again. That's the problem with having a completely OP superhero and some low-tier helpers. I was kinda hoping he'd stay dead for this movie and the other members of Justice league could get some success, but nope. Need Superman.
Worth a watch imo. Some more jokes than usual, which I like. Also Gal Gadot is hot and they gave her a shorter skirt.
Great movie if you're a fan, decent of you're not.
Yea, lots of new characters should be introduced slowly. Some random girl in audience asked "Is that a terminator?" talking about Cyborg. 2 hours is probably not enought to describe everything properly.
- Sups kicking ass so hard fighting entire 5 members of JL and beating em (especially those slow mo vs Flash) - Him saving the day again in a main fight - Lots of easter eggs, in after credit scene as well - Deathstroke confirmed - Some fun interactions between Momoa's Aquaman and the rest of the team
I guess it worth watching, characters chemistry looks cool, Gadot is hot as hell! Hope Affleck stays as Bats.
Who was the Green Lantern who died in a short war sequence? And why did they cut Batman - Super Girl scene they showed in tailer?
Overall I like darker motives as well, as it used to be in BvS and Watchmen, but most people prefers pink poney style with dumb jokes as Marvel loves to do, and most of people has no clue about the lore so they probably gonna flame the movie no matter what
IMO, Watchmen was a good movie because it was still a character focused story, despite the dark and serious tone.
DC-verse has flopped because they're so rushed to getting to the action that all the character is completely ignored. Man of Steel, Superman was great, Clark Kent was non-existent. BvS tried to do the whole The Dark Knight Returns without the background context. Suicide Squad just tossed characters into fights constantly.
Justice League is the same deal, too much rush to get to the ensemble cast without investing in the characters first.
On the opposite side, Marvel has too much hero character focus, and doesn't build up the villain tension or action well enough.
Probably why Wonder Woman was one of the better superhero movies to come out. Character focus, good villain buildup, and a proper villain showdown at the climax (despite moustache).