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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
September 12 2018 19:28 GMT
#121
Some light rumors of Michael B Jordan being cast as Supes. WB is doing their best to sabotage and ruin DC characters. WB execs need to be fired and the whole company restructured. This is embarrassing.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 12 2018 19:52 GMT
#122
Warners had been trying to enlist Cavill, who most recently co-starred in Mission: Impossible — Fallout, for a Superman cameo in Shazam!, which stars Zachary Levi and will bow April 5. But contract talks between Cavill's WME reps and Warners broke down, and the door is now closing on other potential Superman appearances.

That's because the studio has shifted its focus to a Supergirl movie, which will be an origin story featuring a teen superheroine. This effectively removes an actor of Cavill's age from the storyline's equation given that Superman, aka Kal-El, would be an infant, according to DC lore.

Furthermore, Warners isn't likely to make a solo Superman film for at least several years, according to another source. "Superman is like James Bond, and after a certain run you have to look at new actors," says a studio source. As such, Cavill will join Ben Affleck, who isn't expected to reprise his role for director Matt Reeves' forthcoming Batman stand-alone film, as a hero on the way out.

"We have a great relationship and great respect for Henry Cavill that continues to remain unchanged. Additionally we have made no current decisions regarding any upcoming Superman films," read a statement from a Warner Bros. spokesperson after the initial publication of this story.

A Warners source says the Shazam! deal fell apart because of scheduling conflicts. And that is backed up by the fact that Cavill recently signed on to star in the Netflix series The Witcher. However, another source says that the Witcher commitment came after the Warners impasse, suggesting a change in Warners' strategy.

"There's a recognition that some parts of the previous movies didn't work," says the studio insider. Another source says Warners is trying to hit a "reset" button with the DC universe, steering its ship slowly into another direction.

While Affleck and Cavill are segueing out, others who were seen together onscreen in Justice League are carrying forward. Gal Gadot is returning for Wonder Woman 1984, to hit theaters in November 2019. Jason Momoa headlines a solo Aquaman movie this December. And Ezra Miller remains on board to star in a Flash movie, which is due to shoot in early 2019.

Warner Bros. CEO Kevin Tsujihara and chairman of Warner Bros. Pictures Group Toby Emmerich are looking to reinvigorate the studio's DC Universe, which is still playing second fiddle to the Marvel Universe in terms of box office and critical acclaim. Just six years ago, when The Dark Knight Rises closed out the Christopher Nolan trilogy, DC was the superhero team with the mojo. But so far, only Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman spinoff has lived up to the promise of the franchise.

What Warners hasn't done is wiped the slate clean in one fell swoop, something that is nigh impossible to do given the years of planning that goes into these films. When asked about the studio Sept. 6 at an investor conference, new WarnerMedia CEO John Stankey said, "Hats off to Kevin and Toby and their team." But he also took a shot at DC. "Some of our franchises, in particular at DC, we all think we can do better."


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2018 19:57 GMT
#123
On September 13 2018 04:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Some light rumors of Michael B Jordan being cast as Supes. WB is doing their best to sabotage and ruin DC characters. WB execs need to be fired and the whole company restructured. This is embarrassing.

I mean, I would watch a Michael B. Jordan Superman movie for the same reason I would watch a Nick Cage Superman movie, it would be amazing and a PR train wreck. But much like the comics, DC doesn’t have a clear vision for what they want out of the movies and it shows.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-12 20:47:08
September 12 2018 20:21 GMT
#124
However the story changes I really hope they don't introduce Lois lane until several films later of the newly established DCEU plot line.

Fuck it maybe Disney should take over the DC.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 12 2018 22:54 GMT
#125
Fuck Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen should be his love interest who is actually a transgender man.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
September 13 2018 05:24 GMT
#126
The issue with the DCEU has been the same issue thats plauged the DC movies for decades and decades. Its always considered "just another movie" to a movie studio that sprawls in so many different kinds of movies. Marvel works beacuse marvel studios just does the marvel movies and keeps continuity as the writ of god. DC can't keep origin stories stright even when pretending that they are all in the same universe.

Just look at wonder woman and Justice league. Justice league ret cons WW's origin story and no one expects them to do any different. Infinity war had its concepts referenced constantly and consistently throughout movies for years and years setting up for the movie.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2018 09:08 GMT
#127
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
September 13 2018 09:55 GMT
#128
If DC want to reboot, they indeed must get rid of all the characters.

Affleck and Cavill both are the best pieces of a bad scripted movies already done. They can't replace them and let others to stay.

If they do these - guess I'm done with DC movies, despite my personal love for some characters.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-13 13:44:25
September 13 2018 13:32 GMT
#129
Why don't they just make MoS 2 with Cavill and introduce Supergirl in the same film, with the villain Brainiac as the villain and throw in Cyborg for the benefit that he will never get a solo film as it is too late.

Only problem I could see with that is that 2 of the 6 JL members some would wonder where the other 4 are as they would not be AWOL in such a fight.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
September 13 2018 14:34 GMT
#130
Marvel gets away with it fairly well but brainiac might be a little too high profile of a villain for that. Having super girl go to Themescara at the end would tie in nicely with a WW sequel, or would if they weren't wholly unconectable with the rest of the world.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 10:06:41
September 14 2018 10:05 GMT
#131
Now TMZ is reporting... If true you think WB would be pushing for a new Superman script since they have already near completion for Batman and Flash. Unless they are unable to do 3 things at once. The Witch is already well into production since Cavill could not do the cameo in Shazam. Fuck it get the Flash as a cameo.

We need Nolan back.

The social media firestorm over Henry Cavill's fate in the next installment of 'Superman' turns out to be an invented conflict ... TMZ has learned.

Sources in the know tell TMZ, there's no real discussion over the main role because there's no active 'Superman' project. It's true ... Cavill has felt he was underpaid for the role and that's an issue, as is what some say was an underwhelming performance.

We're told if and when the next 'Superman' project is greenlit, Cavill along with others would be in play. If, for example, a director felt he was the perfect guy for the role, he could end up with another cape assuming he and the studio could come to terms.

Cavill posted a video Wednesday insinuating the door is not closed.

The whole brouhaha started when Cavill turned down a cameo in "Shazam!" over money, and then accepted a Netflix deal for "The Witcher." Apparently, some people thought he moved on from 'Superman,' but the fact is there's no conflict ... because up to this point there's no movie project.


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 14 2018 12:59 GMT
#132
Yes, more of Nolan’s overly conservative and dower take on super heroes, trying to root these god like figures in realism. Somehow that will involve more dead wives or girlfriends, because he needs to keep that streak going.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 18:45:58
September 14 2018 18:45 GMT
#133
Nolans "dark gritty realism" also only worked beacuse there was no super powers in his superhero movies, all his characters had to be kayfabe acceptable humans. El santo is a generic but consistent source of hope and zach snyder ruined that. You need some level of variety in your movie universe if you want it to stay fresh or interesting.

the CW television universe is really legit for these reasons. The arrow is obviously the batman and the flash is supermanish but at the least they're different in tone.

I mean I don't know much about that I don't want the CW much.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 01:10:13
September 15 2018 00:10 GMT
#134
No matter who gets named Superman there is usually a sizeable and vocal disagreement with the choice. There was opposition to Christopher Reeve being given the role of Superman. I think in Superman : The Movie Reeve was #4 on promo billing thingie. i think it was Brando, Hackman, and whoever played the newspaper boss guy... then Reeve.

i think Christopher Reeve is the perfect Superman... but ... there were plenty of dissenting voices.

as far as the black supermen topic ... it goes to Muhammad Ali... no acting required... he is the black superman.
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faster than a speeding bullet? ppfffft. this Jordan guy can't " float like a butterfly and sting like a bee ".

seeing as we've already had a real black superman.. what's the big deal about having a fake one?
today's real black superman is probably Daniel Cormier.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 25 2018 23:18 GMT
#135
Looks like the post Snyder era for DC is going very well:

Warner Bros.' Aquaman continued to rule the holiday box office Christmas Eve, earning $11.2 million from 4,125 theaters in North America and swimming past the $500 million mark globally.

The DC superhero pic, starring Jason Momoa in the titular role, debuted domestically over the weekend to $67.4 million, easily enough to beat Christmas competitors Mary Poppins Returns and Bumblebee. Aquaman began opening mid-December overseas, where it has earned north of $420 million to date. Its domestic total through Monday is $79 million, including sneaks.


Source

So this looks like this is the second in a row for WB and DC film that will top 1 billion is box office sales. WB needs to cough up and keep Cavill and Affleck in their respective roles.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
December 26 2018 00:53 GMT
#136
On December 26 2018 08:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Looks like the post Snyder era for DC is going very well:

Show nested quote +
Warner Bros.' Aquaman continued to rule the holiday box office Christmas Eve, earning $11.2 million from 4,125 theaters in North America and swimming past the $500 million mark globally.

The DC superhero pic, starring Jason Momoa in the titular role, debuted domestically over the weekend to $67.4 million, easily enough to beat Christmas competitors Mary Poppins Returns and Bumblebee. Aquaman began opening mid-December overseas, where it has earned north of $420 million to date. Its domestic total through Monday is $79 million, including sneaks.


Source

So this looks like this is the second in a row for WB and DC film that will top 1 billion is box office sales. WB needs to cough up and keep Cavill and Affleck in their respective roles.

The second in a row? The last DC movie that hit a billion was TDKR Teen titans broke 50 million which was impressive but justice league didn't crack 700 I'm pretty sure.

DC needs to get over their contempt for the property they're basing the movies off of. They could start by having someone in their movie say justice league.


I liked aquaman. It was three movies of story that they squished into one but instead of it being a problem like other movies they kept the same characters for all the stories so it didn't fall apart. I'm disappointed they didn't have enough faith to make black manta the main enemy so they had to ham up a cliche "forgotten son heir to the throne" storyline that black panther already did in reverse.

It feels like they're burning through content as fast as they can in order to get what they can out of superhero movies before it chrash's. obligatory marval talk I think marvel is doing the same thing but its hard to argue that they need to slow down when they're swinging for a billion dollars a movie.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-26 02:50:22
December 26 2018 02:48 GMT
#137
On December 26 2018 09:53 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2018 08:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Looks like the post Snyder era for DC is going very well:

Warner Bros.' Aquaman continued to rule the holiday box office Christmas Eve, earning $11.2 million from 4,125 theaters in North America and swimming past the $500 million mark globally.

The DC superhero pic, starring Jason Momoa in the titular role, debuted domestically over the weekend to $67.4 million, easily enough to beat Christmas competitors Mary Poppins Returns and Bumblebee. Aquaman began opening mid-December overseas, where it has earned north of $420 million to date. Its domestic total through Monday is $79 million, including sneaks.


Source

So this looks like this is the second in a row for WB and DC film that will top 1 billion is box office sales. WB needs to cough up and keep Cavill and Affleck in their respective roles.

The second in a row? The last DC movie that hit a billion was TDKR Teen titans broke 50 million which was impressive but justice league didn't crack 700 I'm pretty sure.

DC needs to get over their contempt for the property they're basing the movies off of. They could start by having someone in their movie say justice league.


I liked aquaman. It was three movies of story that they squished into one but instead of it being a problem like other movies they kept the same characters for all the stories so it didn't fall apart. I'm disappointed they didn't have enough faith to make black manta the main enemy so they had to ham up a cliche "forgotten son heir to the throne" storyline that black panther already did in reverse.

It feels like they're burning through content as fast as they can in order to get what they can out of superhero movies before it chrash's. obligatory marval talk I think marvel is doing the same thing but its hard to argue that they need to slow down when they're swinging for a billion dollars a movie.


That was pre Snyder during the Batman golden age of movies. WB made the mistake of not having a detailed timeline even before Nolan decided to make a third film in which to open the world to introduce other members of the Justice League. Prime example, when Bane blows up the stadium guess who was a football player during the game. Victor Stone aka Cyborg. After the film ended they could have started work on the Cyborg move which was connected to the final Nolan batman film, made two Superman films, Wonder Woman, then Flash and Aquaman and so forth.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
December 26 2018 05:50 GMT
#138
Pretty sure nolan specifically said he didn't want his movies to be used in any universe. But even if they did what you suggested they'd never get nolan back and they wouldn't be able to do justice league in the end. Nolan took 2 years off after dark knight because he wanted to do inception. By the time he came back tdkr was released the same year as avengers and they were screwed.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 03 2019 16:13 GMT
#139
So they officially sacked Affleck, which is a horrible decision.

I see the same way goes with Cavill.

Why would you ever try to be like Marvel ruining your own movie sequence and tone...Justice League and Suicide Squad reshooting made it even worse.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
February 03 2019 18:15 GMT
#140
I blame the editing for suicide squad more then anything. That and trying to include the joker.

Justice league was an unsalvagable mess I don't think anything could have saved it. I can't image how worse it would have been without the reshoots. It from the very foundations is a failure that makes sky captian and the world of tomorrow a completely understandable venture.
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