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On August 25 2016 21:50 Lunaticman wrote:
Please Koshi our benevolent god who I praise day and night. The bringer of justice, breaker of robot AI chains and last true leader of mankind.
Can you prehaps kill Damdred/Kita/Stutters?
*Begs on knees.
I like you child. The sinners shall face judgment soon enough.
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kitaman27
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Koshi also needs to be dealt with.
Whatever he is. He may be third party or mafia, but he is certainly anti-town. Could be a conversion mechanic like someone mentioned.
I thought he might have like a Hilary Clinton role that had to kill the Donald before endgame or something, but he is European so that doesn't make sense.
Town is in such a miserable position, that you don't focus on a secondary win condition by shooting disfo. I can't see a town Koshi doing this and trolling the game afterwards. It seems more like a player who has assumed they have already won and knows we can't do anything about it.
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kitaman27
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On August 25 2016 21:50 Lunaticman wrote:
Can you prehaps kill Damdred/Kita/Stutters?
Why me in particular? 
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kitaman27
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Koshi killing disfo makes 0 sense if Koshi is town.
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On August 25 2016 08:21 kitaman27 wrote:
How did you get a parity check off?
There was martial law yesterday and old people roleblock today...
This is a great point. Damdred claiming parity checks is a slip.
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On August 25 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Rels
-Buzz lightyear?
-Rich, handsome
-Third party survivor claim
-Roleblocker
I'm not handsome anymore I'm old. I can't use my roleblock anymore 'cause my batteries are dead. I was never rich, I just have some trillons of toy money that is worthless.
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On August 25 2016 23:12 kitaman27 wrote:
I think the most sketchy claim that has come out is Damdred's parity check since I can't find a timeframe that it makes sense from him to have used his power.
First off, if you have a parity check role it almost always makes sense to use it on day one, but he clearly didn't use it until recently because I'm not seeing any sort of breadcrumb (or much mention of SL or stutters in his filter at all) for that matter. He wouldn't risk taking that info to his death.
Secondly, I'm under the assumption that none of us could have performed actions during the mass roleblock from the robots. Was anyone able to get their action through during that time?
Thirdly, we were all roleblocked again this cycle (I assume?). Plus it's still the planning phase, so the action phase wouldn't have resolved yet.
Even if he managed to get it off, he didn't claim it immediately at the start of the cycle. The only reason to do so would be to try to question/interrogate SL and stutters to come to a conclusion, but he didn't bother to do that either. He just made the claim and disappeared.
It seems like a desperate attempt from mafia now that he has been caught by several players to try to lead us to focus on someone else.
He specifically said "the past two nights". So unless he claims the "surveillance drone" is not his parity checks he claimed to have used his checks the past two nights.
On August 25 2016 08:11 Damdred wrote:
I kept my arm canon even though I'm retired though it's a 50/50 if it goes off or kills me in the process apparently blah.
Anyway kur has a bounty on him I guess? Though soviets are some so maybe not at the same time. Not sure.
Also used my surveillance drone the past two nights so there is that
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Koshi is scum for shooting disinformation, there's no two ways about.
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On August 25 2016 23:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Koshi is scum for shooting disinformation, there's no two ways about.
You want to bet your life on that?
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On August 25 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:
Koshi killing disfo makes 0 sense if Koshi is town.
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kitaman27
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On August 25 2016 23:32 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Rels
-Buzz lightyear?
-Rich, handsome
-Third party survivor claim
-Roleblocker
I'm not handsome anymore I'm old. I can't use my roleblock anymore 'cause my batteries are dead. I was never rich, I just have some trillons of toy money that is worthless.
Remind me what actions you took the first two days?
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kitaman27
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Do we know if this is a 24 hour lynch or 48 hour lynch
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I am buried at work today, and I will do my best.
Kitaman I have several problems with your reads, but I will take the time to literally pull stuff from the top to the bottom of your filter. Offhand:
(1) the read of Stutters for one, he did shit all other than a read on GB, so how does a lurky player as both alignments make it to your 99% don't lynch list
(2) I am sure I called you out on this before but if I didn't I'll bring it up again, you kept suspecting Lunaticman for role reads earlier on, why did you discount the fact he was new to themed games and didn't know any better? (or pull the relevant quote if you answered this and I missed it)
There were a few others but I literally have to be able to sit down and pull through your filter, yes everyone was wrong, but it's an issue of how and why.
Separately Stutters completely ignoring disformation's wall on Kita and responding to Kitaman the way he did indicates a Kita/Stutters team, even if loosely (posts were 15m apart, not like seconds):
+ Show Spoiler +On August 25 2016 01:12 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2016 22:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Reading through some of those flips, I'm kinda paranoid that they could be fake or altered. There are three different occasions where one of the players that flipped town have role descriptions that don't match the powers that they claimed. I'm not saying that all 5 players that flipped were mafia, but it's possible mafia may have had the ability to mess with the flips and possibly the alignments as a counter to us being able to lynch a bunch of people last cycle. I guess they might have been powers related to secondary objectives or something, but mine don't work that way.
-Artanis stole superbia's legs on day one using the ##help command. Superbia confirmed that it was a real power. It couldn't have been his thesis power since he wouldn't receive that until night 1. Not mentioned in role PM.
-GlowingBear received the NSA for getting elected. He said it was part of his role when I questioned him since the Patriot Act was his election reward. Not mentioned in role PM.
-prpl claimed two vig shots prior to dying. Not mentioned in role PM.
I'll try to re-read the filters of everyone tonight. I have a hard time believing HTS, disfo, or koshi are mafia even after a bunch of town deaths, but I'll try re-evaluating to see if there was something I overlooked. There are a couple players who have gone the entire game without even calling any player scum or using their role in any way that helps town, so those players are probably the most likely mafia candidates at this point.
I agree they probably have some janitor-esque role, but there is certainly no way it was that many of them. With how much of this is played behind the scenes, you can't really tell. I still have GBs berth birth certificate, and no one else has had items appear when they flip so it could be explained like that. My role also has a post-death power that gets substantially weaker if it's mechanics are known, so I assume that would be left out of my flip if I die. Although I'm hoping this is just a really bastardized game that has no scum because the world is supposed to end. That would be amazing.
Another thing pointing to you is Vivax's scumreading of you and he winds up dead end of day 1, mind you that fell off some but it can't be ignored.
Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents. Also, kita please. Here's the post that's replying directly to you. On August 16 2016 09:16 Vivax wrote:On August 16 2016 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:On August 16 2016 09:06 Vivax wrote:On August 16 2016 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:On August 16 2016 08:57 Vivax wrote:
What I find interesting so far is that 2 people applied for American presidence but not for the soviet unions. Any reason ? In Soviet Russia, President elect you! Since the voting is private, it probably makes sense to cast your votes in the thread and then if the counts differ from the actual result, it could help narrow down who lied. I think that's too complex especially with this amount of players. Also really only viable if you know the presidents alignments right after the election. Not really though. Say two people pledge their vote to grack. Then we find out grack received 1 vote. We'd essentially know that 1 out of 2 players was lying at that point. It doesn't matter what gracks alignment is. Plus it's not like people aren't going to share who they want to elect as mayor. Shouldn't be too hard to keep track. We don't have lynches so that's really the only alignment indicative thing we've got. Gracks alignment would tell us why they lied (so it's relevant imo), and then both of them are going to say that they told the truth. Also they would need a reason to lie in before hand and that reason is hidden within the candidates alignments or the voters win conditions. Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 23:11 Vivax wrote:
List post time:
3p: TW
Scummy: 1gu, GB, disfo, (kita)
Likely town: Iampurrfection, superbia.
Lock town: Koshi, HTS
Rest still on the fence. Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 07:43 Vivax wrote:On August 17 2016 07:43 kitaman27 wrote:
lol those results XD
Makes sense to compile an american vote count for the sake of knowing what we are dealing with.
GB and chez should be as transparent as possible with their powers.....assuming they received any. I now think you're scum too. Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 07:48 Vivax wrote:
Kita is scummy for post timing btw. He just seems very detached from the rest that's going on and then pops in right after the election to only comment on the election and giving generic advice that the leaders have to be transparent.
(Mind you, Vivax's death could also point to FF or SL if you are town but for other reasons less likely on SL.)
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I do agree that what Koshi did doesnt' make sense either. Given that he expressed dobut about his ability once the last day cycle ended he'd have at least given some thought prior to using the Zeus ability.
It was anti-town, it's only an issue of whether his alignment was actually changed, his role was "sabotaged" to the risk of death if he disclosed anything else or played a different way, or whether he was made third party.
In any case, I'd rather go after Damdred. That should be open and shut at this point.
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Also regarding my abilities the only active was the banana-based kp, and my ability to convert extreme to moderates.
I also had immunity to projectile attacks.
At no point did I ever own a zombie army though, so I'm not sure how Koshi arrived to that.
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On August 25 2016 23:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Koshi is scum for shooting disinformation, there's no two ways about.
Not necessarily. It's possible but not the only option.
Anti-town absolutely, but mechanically anything could have happened that could have resulted in this.
My gut is saying third party, and he might need everyone to bow to him to satisfy wincon but that's complete speculation on my end.
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Also Koshi voted Damdred almost immediately after I did.
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