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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 25 2016 15:13 GMT
#3881
On August 25 2016 22:37 kitaman27 wrote:
HTS here is my biggest problem with your Trfel analysis.

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 07:59 ritoky wrote:
Breaking News: Unpatriotic Man Being Chased Through Ikea


On August 18th, Trfel learns he is a dead man. His delayed death has activated and mafia apparently had no way to save him.

Anything he posts in the next day, he is fully aware will be analyzed once he flips. That's the definition of WIFOM.

To say that he is trying to keep his options open isn't all that relevant when he is already dead. There is no consequence for him going after whoever he chooses because it's not like he could die a second time. In fact, any kp that are directed at him would actually be beneficial for mafia.

There was one point that I do think could have some worth though and that was the argument that Trfel likes to keep his scum buddies out of the spotlight. If he knows he is a dead man, then taking the attention away from his buddies would be a good strategy.

I'll have to check out if there are any specific points where Trfel had an easy opportunity to push a specific player who was under heat at the time, but choose to ignore them or go elsewhere.
[/center]

I also made the wifom disclaimer in my post I'm pretty sure, I focused more on the how of Trfel's reads, in any case prior to the Ikea announcement he scumread Artanis, Onegu and wanted Shapelog dead, in another post I called him out for and that was about it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 25 2016 15:14 GMT
#3882
On August 25 2016 10:29 Tumblewood wrote:
I basically can't do anything at this point. I made four posts instead of 3 during the night which pissed off Palmar so now I'm a VT with 20 million dollars in debt. good luck town. + Show Spoiler [insider info] +
I had a dream last night where Hts and disfo were scum and both scum slipped and I had access to their qt. watch out for them


Tinfoil aside is there any reason you can't vote? That's the impression I'm getting.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 25 2016 15:19 GMT
#3883
On August 25 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
sicklucker also everyone got old, so you don't have a shot. We have to unify and lynch someone traditionally.


no i still have a shot...


On August 25 2016 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
so if i shoot dandred we find 1 scum 100% of the time becuase if hes town stutters is mafia


On August 25 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
vice versa. so we should probably decide on one of them


How are you sure they both aren't mafia and Damdred isn't trying to buy some sort of time disposing a very afk teammate?

Or are you suggesting we lynch one of them and you shoot the other?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2016 15:28 GMT
#3884
On August 25 2016 23:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 23:32 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Rels
-Buzz lightyear?
-Rich, handsome
-Third party survivor claim
-Roleblocker

I'm not handsome anymore I'm old. I can't use my roleblock anymore 'cause my batteries are dead. I was never rich, I just have some trillons of toy money that is worthless.


Remind me what actions you took the first two days?

Protect
Protect
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 25 2016 15:34 GMT
#3885
On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:
(1) the read of Stutters for one, he did shit all other than a read on GB, so how does a lurky player as both alignments make it to your 99% don't lynch list


You straight up directly replied to my list stating that you agreed with it when I posted it. In fact, when Rels brought up killing sutters, you even responded saying we should focus on other players.

I shared the same opinion, there were other players I wanted lynched more and we weren't going to kill like 7 people that cycle.

On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:(2) I am sure I called you out on this before but if I didn't (or pull the relevant quote if you answered this and I missed it)


Yeah I did answer this. #1660

On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Separately Stutters completely ignoring disformation's wall on Kita and responding to Kitaman the way he did indicates a Kita/Stutters team, even if loosely
[/b]

Pre-flip analysis like this is really dangerous and rarely end well.

meh every game we play you start to get paranoid about me which is really frustrating lol. -_-

It's just annoying when all the stuff you've brought up so far is speculative at best. It's all "If kita was mafia, this could make sense."

Anyways, damdred and koshi are clearly superior options so we can revisit this later if need be.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2016 15:38 GMT
#3886
Koshi is clearly superior. That is true.
I had a good night of sleep.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 25 2016 15:40 GMT
#3887
On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
turns out she got shot* by player 14770601
she also got medic saved* by player 91757281


Was this you Rels?

If 91757281 = Rels it might lead us to 14770601.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
August 25 2016 15:42 GMT
#3888
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 25 2016 15:51 GMT
#3889
Ok, please don't kill me now that we're retired.

For the record, I'm Cleopatra and my role worked as follows.

I could seduce(role block/mug) a world leader every night.

My passive was part of the reason for playing so lurky. I really wanted to get viged. I've been following along, but by dying I would have created a pyramid with my money inside (Roughly 30-50billion depending on which day with exchange rates). People could have explored it and I would have gotten to decide if they could take some, all of it, or they could die to a trap(giving me a lot of kp depending on who entered).

I have been following along though.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2016 15:59 GMT
#3890
On August 26 2016 00:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 10:29 Tumblewood wrote:
I basically can't do anything at this point. I made four posts instead of 3 during the night which pissed off Palmar so now I'm a VT with 20 million dollars in debt. good luck town. + Show Spoiler [insider info] +
I had a dream last night where Hts and disfo were scum and both scum slipped and I had access to their qt. watch out for them


Tinfoil aside is there any reason you can't vote? That's the impression I'm getting.

no I just wanted an excuse to do nothing for a cycle. I can speculate on "we haven't actually lost, mafia changed the flips!" but that feels like denial and an effective 8v6 is pretty disheartening. assuming we get rid of all claimed third parties it's probably quadruple mylo-ish. I just feel very powerless and I hate reading filters and I mostly want to be done with this game because it looks nearly impossible to win for me.
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2016 16:03 GMT
#3891
On August 26 2016 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
turns out she got shot* by player 14770601
she also got medic saved* by player 91757281


Was this you Rels?

If 91757281 = Rels it might lead us to 14770601.

No I can only protect myself
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 25 2016 16:04 GMT
#3892
Anyway, the most obvious answer is Damdred is lying about the check.

However he appears to be non-human while the toy factory day was so focused on humans, he might not have been RBd since it appears he wasn't human. Can any other aliens confirm/deny that they weren't rbd?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2016 16:07 GMT
#3893
On August 26 2016 01:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, the most obvious answer is Damdred is lying about the check.

However he appears to be non-human while the toy factory day was so focused on humans, he might not have been RBd since it appears he wasn't human. Can any other aliens confirm/deny that they weren't rbd?

I was RBd during the toy factory.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2016 16:09 GMT
#3894
On August 26 2016 01:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, the most obvious answer is Damdred is lying about the check.

However he appears to be non-human while the toy factory day was so focused on humans, he might not have been RBd since it appears he wasn't human. Can any other aliens confirm/deny that they weren't rbd?

ofc he is lying lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 16:55 GMT
#3895
On August 25 2016 23:12 kitaman27 wrote:
I think the most sketchy claim that has come out is Damdred's parity check since I can't find a timeframe that it makes sense from him to have used his power.

First off, if you have a parity check role it almost always makes sense to use it on day one, but he clearly didn't use it until recently because I'm not seeing any sort of breadcrumb (or much mention of SL or stutters in his filter at all) for that matter. He wouldn't risk taking that info to his death.

Secondly, I'm under the assumption that none of us could have performed actions during the mass roleblock from the robots. Was anyone able to get their action through during that time?

Thirdly, we were all roleblocked again this cycle (I assume?). Plus it's still the planning phase, so the action phase wouldn't have resolved yet.

Even if he managed to get it off, he didn't claim it immediately at the start of the cycle. The only reason to do so would be to try to question/interrogate SL and stutters to come to a conclusion, but he didn't bother to do that either. He just made the claim and disappeared.

It seems like a desperate attempt from mafia now that he has been caught by several players to try to lead us to focus on someone else.


thats acualy reallie important. see I think hes mafia so im trying to figure out what his check means. he could be trying to give stutters town cred. or the other but kind of less likely option. hes trying to bait me into shooting stutters whos town for a very good mafia trade.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 16:58 GMT
#3896
On August 26 2016 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
On August 25 2016 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
sicklucker also everyone got old, so you don't have a shot. We have to unify and lynch someone traditionally.


no i still have a shot...


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
so if i shoot dandred we find 1 scum 100% of the time becuase if hes town stutters is mafia


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
vice versa. so we should probably decide on one of them


How are you sure they both aren't mafia and Damdred isn't trying to buy some sort of time disposing a very afk teammate?

Or are you suggesting we lynch one of them and you shoot the other?


well why the fuck would dandred put any effort into making a 2 page filter mafia look like town
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 17:00 GMT
#3897
On August 26 2016 00:51 Stutters695 wrote:
Ok, please don't kill me now that we're retired.

For the record, I'm Cleopatra and my role worked as follows.

I could seduce(role block/mug) a world leader every night.

My passive was part of the reason for playing so lurky. I really wanted to get viged. I've been following along, but by dying I would have created a pyramid with my money inside (Roughly 30-50billion depending on which day with exchange rates). People could have explored it and I would have gotten to decide if they could take some, all of it, or they could die to a trap(giving me a lot of kp depending on who entered).

I have been following along though.


lul this role is too stupid to be made up or mafia. im changing my shot off of stutters now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 17:01 GMT
#3898
ok so we lynch dandred and i shoooottt? koshi. I mean hts?

can someone bring up that old qt we had a sneak peak on something seems wrong. shes been protected twice has zombies and banana kp? sounds fucking mafia the more I think about it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 17:02 GMT
#3899
DId zombies even do anything? I thought they were trying to fucknig murder us
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 25 2016 17:05 GMT
#3900
Its important to note dandreds different check ( that he didnt have yesterday lol) JUST SO CONVIENTLY happens to be a diferent check between the only guy with a gun and a 1 page filter lynch bait.

Very possibly scum motivated fake check
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