It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote: Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.
You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.
I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.
Ah, It might of just also been better if you just said your posts don't relate in general instead of one thing.
Yes I chain things together, because I have the urg to reply to things. I always do. By chaining it (which is something I am trying and it is working), I can fill that need, and not (heavily) clog up the thread. I then take what I consider wrong, and invest more time into those, and work it out more.
Basically it is how i get connected with the thread and get into the mood of playing mafia.
I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
Reminds me of this:
Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy
On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys
Wait..... Oh.
I thought they were the same person :/
Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
Keep in mind though that Pálmar is retarded and wrong most of the time.
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote: like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy
On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys
Wait..... Oh.
I thought they were the same person :/
Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush)
What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge.
You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right?
And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
Ideas anybody?
I can understand the read and might know the reasoning.
idk why he did it backwards though. Which bothers me. Why write a scum read backwards (VA- my mafia read so far is prphlz) for? Maybe as a test but idk.
Should explain it actually when he comes back. And we should hold off. I hold off the post I was working on till he posts why i suppose.
Kinda wonder actually about the town read on Skynx as it is kinda quick IMO.