Commentator Bias - Page 5
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Mistakes
United States1101 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
I watch my fair share of sc2 and the only bias I see is when a top foreigner is playing in the final stages on a tournament. I'm fine with it though, as long as it doesn't go too far. Moonglade saying a certain map is hard for zerg isn't bias. He's a gm zerg himself. His opinion is valuable. Artosis favoring a certain player because of past performance isn't bias either imo. | ||
c0ldfusion
United States8292 Posts
Player bias on the other hand................. | ||
REyeM
2674 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
On May 05 2015 04:25 Mistakes wrote: Moletrap sucks amirite? I was waiting for someone to mention him. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 05 2015 05:30 REyeM wrote: The scene is not that professional outside of korea, don't expect more There are many criticisms one might level at ESL and WCS, but I don't think "unprofessional" as the tern relates to casting and commentary is one of them. | ||
WhenRaxFly
45 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On May 05 2015 05:30 REyeM wrote: The scene is not that professional outside of korea, don't expect more There are several events outside of Korea that casters do not get paid for. In other words, if no direct compensation, then it's not really a professional job. I'm not even sure who you are talking about but I see this attitude quite a bit and it's confusing to me, because if you're not getting paid, do you really need to act super professional? In my opinion I don't think so, and not really bothered by someone being genuine. | ||
Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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marpis
Finland18 Posts
Being openly biased about races is kinda meh, like when MSC had 14 vision or how much was it, and blink was all the rage, casters would focus so much in "the terran just can't get to the MSC!". It already felt unfair game back then, and the casters mentioning it too made it worse. On the other side, I think it's ok to be very biased about maps because they change and players always play multiple maps and also veto some of them. Like "Protoss blink all-ins wreck Terrans in this map" is completely fine to me, but "almost all maps in the pool favour Protoss" makes the game sound unfair. | ||
Talaris
Switzerland747 Posts
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
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shizznit
23 Posts
incontrol just unprofessional as hell kaelaris doesn't know the game for sh*t and blows up with excitement over the most unexcitable stuff artosis just awkward as hell, too nerdy, too biased, sense of humor sucks nathanias biased as hell this is just my opinion, OP asked | ||
Nathanias
United States286 Posts
On May 05 2015 08:44 shizznit wrote: incontrol just unprofessional as hell kaelaris doesn't know the game for sh*t and blows up with excitement over the most unexcitable stuff artosis just awkward as hell, too nerdy, too biased, sense of humor sucks nathanias biased as hell this is just my opinion, OP asked Usually I divert my eyes from this sorta thing but I'm curious, can you link me a part where I was "biased as hell"? I pride myself on giving Terran input but I don't believe I have EVER counted a player out for not being Terran outside of very light jokes (99% of which with Rotti since we play each other on ladder frequently). Honestly if I'm to be accused of bias it's towards players I'm friends with. I'm super biased for Puck, kane, xeno and forgg. This has nothing to do with races and yes I would favor these players more than I would other non-koreans against far superior opponents. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42340 Posts
On May 05 2015 08:44 shizznit wrote: incontrol just unprofessional as hell kaelaris doesn't know the game for sh*t and blows up with excitement over the most unexcitable stuff artosis just awkward as hell, too nerdy, too biased, sense of humor sucks nathanias biased as hell artosis just awkward as hell, too nerdy, too nerdy too nerdy too nerdy You must be new here. | ||
pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On May 04 2015 16:09 AxiomBlurr wrote: I also watch a lot of CSGO (I work from home - a stream on in the background is the norm), the commentating there is 1st rate in my opinion - very little player, team, side bias. I really like all the casters I listed. Its just that I hate it when they go all butt hurt~~ Comparing SC and CS casting is just nonsensical. How biased is Rotti when he casts a TvT? Not very? Yeah, that's because the SC equivalent to CS is mirror MUs. They come down to player skill and luck of the draw, nothing more. Non-mirror MUs in SC will never ever ever ever in a million trillion years be close to that kind of balance. Being up front about the reality of SC's fragile and fluctuating balance is not bias, it's educated analysis. If you don't want educated analysis, then just watch shoutcasters. Some casters are shamelessly biased, though. And some like to think they're not biased, but they are. But that's not really what you're talking about. Since I know Nathan is reading this thread, I'll say I haven't seen any race bias from him in any events I've seen him in. | ||
AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
On May 05 2015 06:59 Talaris wrote: Commentator Bias is like spices in a dish : you need some or it will taste bland, but too much and it will be unpalatable. This is my feel exactly~~ Perhaps my OP didn't convey my respect and love for the casters I mentioned...I was just stating it pisses me when casters show race or player bias too much. | ||
althaz
Australia1001 Posts
I loved Chill's commentating (his real commentating). Whatever happened to that guy (was one of my fave casters early days). | ||
Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
I have found myself switching him of several times just to be able to watch the game, but the I don't get the sound effects. "shut up with your pokemon tasteless, I am trying to watch the game!" Many times I have seen the observer desperately trying to draw the attention of tasteless (and the other commentator that has been drawn into the off-topic discussion) to a drop or harass, or tech switch, or important scout, or barely missing to scout something etc, but the commentators just go on and on and on about how awesome it'd be if pokemon X had power Y against pokemon Z when tasteless was a kid... I have never played pokemon, and I don't care the slightest about it, so please do your damn job tasteless!!! > : ( So after that rant, I am just curious what other people appreciate in him. I guess he is less biased as he doesn't care the slightest about the game, but... >_> | ||
nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 05 2015 15:45 althaz wrote: I loved Chill's commentating (his real commentating). Whatever happened to that guy (was one of my fave casters early days). naniwa punched him into retirement | ||
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