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Shiragaku
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ninazerg
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Freakling
Germany1525 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24919 Posts
On April 04 2015 23:53 Freakling wrote: Erm... Well... You do realize that April fool's day was 2 days ago?! Or did your wave function need that long to collapse? fixed for you ^^ | ||
YokoKano
United States612 Posts
On April 04 2015 17:19 ninazerg wrote: I have a question. What if Yogis' meditation isn't actually directly influencing any quantum fields? Wouldn't that throw a monkey wrench in this whole operation? I'm glad you are at least taking the OP seriously. Your question is a good one. The Yogi are notoriously passive creatures. What is it about humans that enables them to resolve certain instances of superposition that another observer, say a fire ant, would be unable to resolve? Meditation certainly has some positive properties. Achieving one-pointedness engages a sort of superposition in itself, connecting the meditator's mind simultaneously to many other minds. We can be almost sure that a scientific advantage of meditation is it allows one to directly embrace all other minds. This enables the skilled meditator to simultaneously speak for all living things, circumventing what I see as being the greatest problem of quantum mechanics. In this way we can be certain the Yogi are influencing quantum fields, and miraculously not generating dark matter (which occurs when the resolution of superposition is not agreed upon by willing beings). But whether you choose to call the Yogis direct influence is another question. | ||
Glowsphere
United States170 Posts
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On April 05 2015 02:07 Glowsphere wrote: Feels like swimming in mayonnaise. don't you dare to insult my gender! this will create dark matter! | ||
Glowsphere
United States170 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
On April 05 2015 00:46 YokoKano wrote: I'm glad you are at least taking the OP seriously. Your question is a good one. The Yogi are notoriously passive creatures. What is it about humans that enables them to resolve certain instances of superposition that another observer, say a fire ant, would be unable to resolve? Meditation certainly has some positive properties. Achieving one-pointedness engages a sort of superposition in itself, connecting the meditator's mind simultaneously to many other minds. We can be almost sure that a scientific advantage of meditation is it allows one to directly embrace all other minds. This enables the skilled meditator to simultaneously speak for all living things, circumventing what I see as being the greatest problem of quantum mechanics. In this way we can be certain the Yogi are influencing quantum fields, and miraculously not generating dark matter (which occurs when the resolution of superposition is not agreed upon by willing beings). But whether you choose to call the Yogis direct influence is another question. I foresee an almost inevitable abuse of the Yogi meditation to influence and control population centers for the benefit of world leaders rather than as a mechanism for peace. Additionally, I foresee another potential dilemma: perhaps even a very powerful Yogi who can perceive quantum strata with unprecedented hyperprecision could hypothetically could subordinate the geometrical axis of substructuralist irrationalism as a structural desublimation and structuralist appropriation. As you know, once consciousness reaches quantum materialization, a pseudo-dialectic universal substructure of the interpolated 'circular house' subreality (theorized by Fermi in his 1938 publication implicating radon neutron bombardment resulting in a half-life of approximately 18 seconds, which later apportioned a paradox of false-elliptical reports on the mass of resulting hypothetical fields of time-space) contextualizes into the stereotypical discourse of absurdism in neotextual subconstructivist hyperreality. The implication here is that as neurological receptors self-process iotas of postquantum perceptual singularities in the narrativity interrelated to a web of societal fabricators, such as tangents of subappropriation of classical materialism (which I do realize relies heavily on the notion of neocultural totality being dictated by self-determinist geometry), extrapolate to objectively hyperirrational expressions relative to their pseudotranscendence via standard deviation in wormhole paradoxical particulates essentially being dematerialized by an absolute zero in quantum states. I was curious if you had any thoughts on this matter. | ||
EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
Notwithstanding, I am interested in other viewpoints on the matter. | ||
YokoKano
United States612 Posts
On April 05 2015 07:07 ninazerg wrote: I foresee an almost inevitable abuse of the Yogi meditation to influence and control population centers for the benefit of world leaders rather than as a mechanism for peace. Additionally, I foresee another potential dilemma: perhaps even a very powerful Yogi who can perceive quantum strata with unprecedented hyperprecision could hypothetically could subordinate the geometrical axis of substructuralist irrationalism as a structural desublimation and structuralist appropriation. As you know, once consciousness reaches quantum materialization, a pseudo-dialectic universal substructure of the interpolated 'circular house' subreality (theorized by Fermi in his 1938 publication implicating radon neutron bombardment resulting in a half-life of approximately 18 seconds, which later apportioned a paradox of false-elliptical reports on the mass of resulting hypothetical fields of time-space) contextualizes into the stereotypical discourse of absurdism in neotextual subconstructivist hyperreality. The implication here is that as neurological receptors self-process iotas of postquantum perceptual singularities in the narrativity interrelated to a web of societal fabricators, such as tangents of subappropriation of classical materialism (which I do realize relies heavily on the notion of neocultural totality being dictated by self-determinist geometry), extrapolate to objectively hyperirrational expressions relative to their pseudotranscendence via standard deviation in wormhole paradoxical particulates essentially being dematerialized by an absolute zero in quantum states. I was curious if you had any thoughts on this matter. Nina, your question reminds me of a thought experiment I presented about potentially humorous implications of John Stuart Mill's Utilitarianism. As you know, JSM's doctrine prescribes a course of action that leads to the greatest happiness of the greatest number. Speaking as an Economist, the most interesting fact about Mill's Utilitarianism is that it is almost diametrically opposed to the fundamental axiom of Economics, that it is a study of rational self-interest. A broader description of what it means to be self-interested is presented by the famous biologist and philosopher "The Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse" Daniel Dennett. This perspective incorporates kin selection and other mechanisms for expanding what it means to be self-interested --- Well, while this doctrine of benselfishness exists it is not taken very seriously by many students of Economics, and of course this a problem for the Philosopher --- If Mill had it right, then Dennett's benselfishness moves us in the right direction. Aeons Anyway, where I think the problem gets interesting is the question of what I've dubbed Aeons. It can be proved that time is not unilateral nor does it resemble the set of natural numbers. Instead, there is a doctrine presented by the respected physicist John Archibald Wheeler in conjunction with the idea of a Participatory Universe, that humans are responsible for bringing about results not only in the here and now, but in the distant past and (perhaps in an unusual sense, the distant future). Well, things get quite interesting here. If time is not, absolutely speaking, unilateral, then future events can cause past events. I have a theory that all causality originates from the origin of the universe. This is not strictly speaking obvious because there are apparently very strange manifestations of this idea. For instance, the idea that there exist singularities in black holes that actually are windows on the origin singularity is a very complicated although interesting idea. Anyway, the possibility that time is not one-directional (or even necessarily one-dimensional) is pretty powerful when we couple it as Wheeler did with the Anthropic Principle we have been discussing. The idea that observers are actually participant in causing real events (for instance, by resolving states of quantum superposition --- and this leads to a chain of physical events that can be macroscopic)... This idea suggests that higher forms of intelligence like humans and Yogi (of particular interest in this case because of the enlightenment vehicle meditation)... That we as conscious observers, because of our intelligence, cognition, and language are actually creating loops in space time, causing things here and now by effecting changes to the past and future. Humans are like boats, with a wake, and a sort of nose cone (like a plane breaking the speed of sound), but changes in the wakes and in the nose cone actually effect major changes for us as causal agents in the present. Humans shape both the past and the future so that at a given point in time we can say "this is what the past looks like at this point in time, but instead of being unchanging, when we look at it again, the past will look different". Anyway, where this gets really interesting is when we start thinking about future beings, beings I call Aeons, and what they look like now, in the present. If we're able to change the past right now, then these future beings are able to change the present, "then", at some point in time in the future. For the most part I think Aeons of this nature are actually coming into being right now, and that there are a number of worlds in which they are expected to exist. Anyway, as you know, there are good Aeons (what Christians call Angels) and evil Aeons (what Christians call Demons), and these sort of futuristic beings are participating even now in the world as objects of cognition; and furthermore that we are participating in bringing about these beings. So there are already Angels and Demons who influence our evolution from "the other side", that is, from the future. Evolution is not only a one-way street. Future beings are already influencing us, but probably because they don't in some sense "actually exist", yet, these Aeons aren't as powerful as legends tell us to believe. Even so, it looks more and more rational to believe in these future cognitive agents influencing us if we as humans are able to influence the past. It is an interesting question that relates to quantum superposition and whether we are "riding the wave of existence" if you will, while creating dark matter in the future and past --- events that did not "really" occur, but nevertheless play a significant role in shaping the world of causality. Even more interesting is the question of how deep the proverbial rabbit hole goes. Are there *living* superpositions of Schrodinger's Cat who most of us perceive as dead, but that still walk around today, living out their lives as if the observer had no walked in and killed them? Personally I think there are. I had the experience of being possessed by innumerable "ghosts" after an extended four day Zazen meditation, and I suspect that this was the nature of Samurai practice. Zillions and zillions of dead Samurai were embodied in each living Japanese that got blown up in the atomic bombings. Consequently there was serious conspansion and incoversion that followed the explosions. The best way I know to "clean up" and mint good spirits from the dead Japanese is to play Diablo III: Reaper of Souls, where Blizzard employees have created the most accurate map of "The Dead Zone". | ||
MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
On April 04 2015 03:42 Elegy wrote: I'm not a philosopher. I'm not a physicist. I'm just a man, really. ...but the answer to your question probably involves Protoss. Bullshit. Protoss are the original suicide bombers. And they get an afterlife of honor in a dragoon form. | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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