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On March 17 2015 01:52 Koshi wrote: Well. I am willing to lynch Palmar -> Onegu -> prplhz/rayn and then lose the game. That order.
I suffered from the same flow of thought as prplhz on Onegu his VT claim after ritoky flipped VT. I don't know why but before the flip I could see them both as mafia, and now after the flip I suddenly put faith in the Onegu VT claim. I don't know why.
I just read Eden his bullshit "PoE" himself crap and don't want to post any further. The PoE himself argument is some of the most retarded reasons to call people mafia. I never ever put myself into listposts or PoE or w.e. Who the fuck does that? ?
obviously he didn't say "well the final mafia is among me, x, y, z"
what i mean is that he basically doesn't have any suspects and found reasons to townread everyone, which i find comes from mafia far more often than town (because it's more true of mafia than town; town aren't mafia so they know if they townread everyone it's a mistake)
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Palmar has been one of the most productive guys on this day phase. We are not lynching Palmar at least at this point.
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Everybody agrees that in this game people look pretty town.
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On March 17 2015 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar has been one of the most productive guys on this day phase. We are not lynching Palmar at least at this point. Sure. I like how he says you are mafia and then when we are talking about you he is investigating how Damdred became more town.
Really productive.
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##unvote ##Vote: Onegu
I ride or die with rayn today. Ironically.
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On March 17 2015 01:55 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 01:52 Koshi wrote: Well. I am willing to lynch Palmar -> Onegu -> prplhz/rayn and then lose the game. That order.
I suffered from the same flow of thought as prplhz on Onegu his VT claim after ritoky flipped VT. I don't know why but before the flip I could see them both as mafia, and now after the flip I suddenly put faith in the Onegu VT claim. I don't know why.
I just read Eden his bullshit "PoE" himself crap and don't want to post any further. The PoE himself argument is some of the most retarded reasons to call people mafia. I never ever put myself into listposts or PoE or w.e. Who the fuck does that? ? obviously he didn't say "well the final mafia is among me, x, y, z" what i mean is that he basically doesn't have any suspects and found reasons to townread everyone, which i find comes from mafia far more often than town (because it's more true of mafia than town; town aren't mafia so they know if they townread everyone it's a mistake) he said that he was wrong because he townread everyone.
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Can somebody tell me where Palmar dropped his scumread on rayn today? Because I do not believe Palmar has rayn nr 1 scumread during night and then completely drops it when the day starts.
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On March 17 2015 01:56 Koshi wrote: Everybody agrees that in this game people look pretty town. yes, but we're still finding cause for suspicion on several people not named prplhz - Palmar, Onegu and ray
prplhz is just like "yeh they're all town" and even acknowledges his reasons for townreading them are weak, but then excuses himself from digging further into them by saying he's "keeping his eyes closed"
what is townie about this iyo?
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On March 17 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 01:55 Eden1892 wrote:On March 17 2015 01:52 Koshi wrote: Well. I am willing to lynch Palmar -> Onegu -> prplhz/rayn and then lose the game. That order.
I suffered from the same flow of thought as prplhz on Onegu his VT claim after ritoky flipped VT. I don't know why but before the flip I could see them both as mafia, and now after the flip I suddenly put faith in the Onegu VT claim. I don't know why.
I just read Eden his bullshit "PoE" himself crap and don't want to post any further. The PoE himself argument is some of the most retarded reasons to call people mafia. I never ever put myself into listposts or PoE or w.e. Who the fuck does that?? obviously he didn't say "well the final mafia is among me, x, y, z" what i mean is that he basically doesn't have any suspects and found reasons to townread everyone, which i find comes from mafia far more often than town (because it's more true of mafia than town; town aren't mafia so they know if they townread everyone it's a mistake) he said that he was wrong because he townread everyone. and then... crickets
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On March 17 2015 01:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar has been one of the most productive guys on this day phase. We are not lynching Palmar at least at this point. Sure. I like how he says you are mafia and then when we are talking about you he is investigating how Damdred became more town. Really productive. I actually meant the "phase" where he tried to get marv play when marv looked demotivated. Given that i am town and marv's vote was on me that is a really townie thing to do.
Obviously it's not clear for you but for me it is. If you want to pursue Palmar feel free to.
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onegu feels like bait at this point. this game has been too difficult for someone who almost hasn't been playing to be mafia imo
did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive?
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On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: onegu feels like bait at this point. this game has been too difficult for someone who almost hasn't been playing to be mafia imo
did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? explain what this means
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ray, what has changed between you saying this:
On March 16 2015 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar is not mafia.
On March 16 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: PALMAR IS NOT MAFIA!
and this?
[QUOTE]On March 17 2015 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On March 17 2015 01:57 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On March 17 2015 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar has been one of the most productive guys on this day phase. We are not lynching Palmar at least at this point.[/QUOTE] If you want to pursue Palmar feel free to. [/QUOTE] because to me the only thing that changed is Palmar trying to play the game, which you acknowledged
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On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? you can't be fucking serious?
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On March 17 2015 02:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: onegu feels like bait at this point. this game has been too difficult for someone who almost hasn't been playing to be mafia imo
did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? explain what this means i've played in games before where there were a bunch of relatively good people in the game, where town had to fight pretty hard for the successful lynches it got, and where everyone felt like everyone else was being townie and we just defaulted to lynching people who hadn't been putting forth as much work as everyone else. they invariably flipped town and we either lost or almost lost because of it - the game was hard to solve because someone was playing a really baller mafia game and we either couldn't find them or just barely could
basically i'm not convinced a town with a bunch of tlmafia's biggest names would be so thoroughly bamboozled by somebody basically not playing. this isn't the magical unicorn game where all the people in the townie in-group are town and we just lynch the people outside of it and win
i understand that just saying that isn't helpful which is why i'm trying to go through people that either i ignored/had as town (prplhz) or that i feel have suspicious circumstances surrounding them (ray being alive blablabla)
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On March 17 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? you can't be fucking serious? i am. if it's around you can link it to me right?
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On March 17 2015 02:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 02:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: onegu feels like bait at this point. this game has been too difficult for someone who almost hasn't been playing to be mafia imo
did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? explain what this means i've played in games before where there were a bunch of relatively good people in the game, where town had to fight pretty hard for the successful lynches it got, and where everyone felt like everyone else was being townie and we just defaulted to lynching people who hadn't been putting forth as much work as everyone else. they invariably flipped town and we either lost or almost lost because of it - the game was hard to solve because someone was playing a really baller mafia game and we either couldn't find them or just barely could basically i'm not convinced a town with a bunch of tlmafia's biggest names would be so thoroughly bamboozled by somebody basically not playing. this isn't the magical unicorn game where all the people in the townie in-group are town and we just lynch the people outside of it and win i understand that just saying that isn't helpful which is why i'm trying to go through people that either i ignored/had as town (prplhz) or that i feel have suspicious circumstances surrounding them (ray being alive blablabla) This is not really a game-related argument regarding anyone's affiliation. If a "lurker" is scummy them playing with "big names" does not make them town. "big names" seeming town does not make them scum.
i don't even know what you are trying to say. last game we demolished mafia because they were bad, and townies were good.
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On March 17 2015 02:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 02:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: onegu feels like bait at this point. this game has been too difficult for someone who almost hasn't been playing to be mafia imo
did anybody ever give a plausible reason for why ray is still alive? explain what this means i've played in games before where there were a bunch of relatively good people in the game, where town had to fight pretty hard for the successful lynches it got, and where everyone felt like everyone else was being townie and we just defaulted to lynching people who hadn't been putting forth as much work as everyone else. they invariably flipped town and we either lost or almost lost because of it - the game was hard to solve because someone was playing a really baller mafia game and we either couldn't find them or just barely could basically i'm not convinced a town with a bunch of tlmafia's biggest names would be so thoroughly bamboozled by somebody basically not playing. this isn't the magical unicorn game where all the people in the townie in-group are town and we just lynch the people outside of it and win i understand that just saying that isn't helpful which is why i'm trying to go through people that either i ignored/had as town (prplhz) or that i feel have suspicious circumstances surrounding them (ray being alive blablabla) Do you remember you made a megapost in Horn about the state of the game and how it meant that mafia were all quiet? And then it was jat and rsoultin?
Maybe town is bamboozled because town isn't lynching the guy who is playing like mafia, and the only reason he is town is he spent 5 words claiming VT, and town is trying to find mafia in a large pool of townies while discounting the "obvious" mafia?
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i actually don't remember that marv lol. but i'll just assume it happened
i'm aware that this isn't a definitive argument and i'm not saying otherwise. it's just where my head is at
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