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On April 21 2014 05:11 skykh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. Sneaky is the most overrated adc in na, remember this guy get shit by GENJA
Never heard anyone say that before. In fact, last season and before that I'd say he was underrated and now that he's actually hit the top of the boards in soloq? Come on now. He loses a game and people remember it like it was yesterday. wake up
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On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo.
Saint just keep calling out on voyboy's mistake on everything.
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On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo.
I remember you hating on him for some reason. 
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On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well.
Sneaky is solid, but it' hard to put him up there with Double and Turtle, when he's rarely a target on his team. He's got Balls and Meteos, the 2 best in the region in their role, who put so much pressure overall, that it's insanely difficult for team to go in on sneaky.
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On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well. Edit: Also, I want to mention Aphro. idk what happened to him during his first time around as Support but he looks really solid now. As he's transitioned to his role fully finally.
I don't think solid is giving him enough credit lol. He's by far the best NA support at the moment.
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United States37500 Posts
On April 21 2014 05:19 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I remember you hating on him for some reason.
I never hated Sneaky...?
I used to think he was mediocre but he's done well to silence his doubters.
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I've never understood the disdain for Sneaky, playing his utility carries last split is by no means an easy thing to do, and he's diversifying well this split while doublelift continues to just play Vayne randomly and Turtle continues to make extremely questionable flash in/valkyrie in plays. Cop is one of the most ineffectual ADCs in the region, and no one else is even worth mentioning in NA at the moment.
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On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well. Edit: Also, I want to mention Aphro. idk what happened to him during his first time around as Support but he looks really solid now. As he's transitioned to his role fully finally.
Comfortably #1 support NA when he plays well, but a little streaky (like Liftlift). Xspecial is the most consistent. Lemon is the innovator/wildcard.
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On April 21 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well. Sneaky is solid, but it' hard to put him up there with Double and Turtle, when he's rarely a target on his team. He's got Balls and Meteos, the 2 best in the region in their role, who put so much pressure overall, that it's insanely difficult for team to go in on sneaky.
we get that already. it's been said many times. then we look at what he's done with his utility adcs and rarely missing those skill shots and then we consider where he has stood for sometime in soloq. The point is the kid has been getting the job done for sometime and it's not just because of c9.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
The only ADCs in NA ranked lower than Cop are Zuna, Yellowpete, and Wizfujin.
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On April 21 2014 05:21 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:19 Redox wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I remember you hating on him for some reason. I never hated Sneaky...? I used to think he was mediocre but he's done well to silence his doubters.
Yeah well hating is maybe too strong of a word. I just remember that I thought you underrated him alot.
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most people do. it's hardly newsworthy lol.
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United States37500 Posts
On April 21 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well. Sneaky is solid, but it' hard to put him up there with Double and Turtle, when he's rarely a target on his team. He's got Balls and Meteos, the 2 best in the region in their role, who put so much pressure overall, that it's insanely difficult for team to go in on sneaky.
If you asked me who I'd want as ADC to build a team around, I'd say Doublelift. For experience and what he can do at peak form.
If you asked me who's the best ADC of spring, I'd say Sneaky. He was considerably better than Double/Turtle this split.
On April 21 2014 05:20 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On April 21 2014 05:11 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 21 2014 05:09 wei2coolman wrote:saint is shitting on vooby pretty hard, rightfully so. On April 21 2014 05:09 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:On April 21 2014 05:05 Sleight wrote:On April 21 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
Quas is quite good tbh, only guy on curse I'd call "good". It's a shame that with 4 others very average players curse is still top4 na ... CLG should recruit Quas and ditch nien and then they would finally reach their final form :D Cop is barely worse than Liftlift, Turtle, or Sneaky. He and Quas played well. Bunny USUALLY plays great. Not a good lulu. Cop is like distant 4th place, there's a huge chunk of skill difference between sneaky and cop. Lol... Sneaky is playing better this split than either Turtle or Liftlift. There is no argument. Sneaky made All League First Team for a reason. Sneaky and Turtle are close this split. Lifltift is the third spot by play this spring. it's really easy to look good as adc when everyone else is focused on frontline. Gist what saint's saying? I have it on mute atm. Edit: Sneaky might have a hint of Cop syndrome but frankly he has the best performance this split out of all the ADCs imo. I'm like the most vocal Sneaky hater ever and he's the best ADC in NA now by far z.z It may or may not be that Double/Turtle aren't playing up to their full potential but that doesn't take anything away from Sneaky. He's been steadily trending upwards all split long. If C9 allows him to clean up, he does it well. Edit: Also, I want to mention Aphro. idk what happened to him during his first time around as Support but he looks really solid now. As he's transitioned to his role fully finally. I don't think solid is giving him enough credit lol. He's by far the best NA support at the moment.
Probably but sample size remains an issue for me. If same scenario as above, Xpecial for the first option, Aphro for second.
Aphro's greatest strength is his champion pool and execution. Really superb.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
I'm also pretty sure Cop's gotten worse this season. He legitimately has no effect on the game at all.
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uhhhh, see's k6 and renekton. BETTER PICK JINX.
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CRS needs to play Nidalee. Korea considers it a Lulu counter for a good reason. Spears are good for KZ resets. Leona+Nid, Cait+Renek inc
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 21 2014 05:25 Sleight wrote:
CRS needs to play Nidalee. Korea considers it a Lulu counter for a good reason. Spears are good for KZ resets. Leona+Nid, Cait+Renek inc
Voyboy's Nidalee is the reason why Riot hasn't nerfed her yet despite being picked in almost every game in Korea.
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Monte needs to tighten up CLG's pick/ban phase.
meh, not liking evelynn pick.
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United States37500 Posts
I agree Jinx is very questionable pick here but Aphro will be Double's savior. np
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