Check out this series of documentaries about misandry (hatred of men) and feminism. I found it a while back and I found it rather interesting, and quite controversial (but I guess that many of the good documentaries are).
Here is the introduction:
Watch the rest of the videos here: http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/ (I think they will be the most enjoyable for you if you watch them in the right order.)
Anyway, I just wanted to share those with you. I thought that maybe you would find them enjoyable and though-provoking to watch. Not many people have seen them so far it seems.
For anyone who is interested, this is a great new show - I would seriously recommend watching it. The female lead is assertive and authoritative and demanding of attention and respect.
A Sexist Reporter Tried To Box Her In, But She Took Everything And Threw It Right Back In His Face
The show "Scandal" is full of pioneering moments for strong female characters on television, exemplified by this truly kick-ass response from Lisa Kudrow's character, Congresswoman Josephine Marcus, to a reporter who tried to ... well, just take a look and get ready to high-five someone.
That was some of the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever heard. Please just post it on the MRA reddit, where men like to complain about how hard they have it, instead of leaving it sitting on a forum that I read regularly. The interview video is good though ^^
On November 15 2013 23:28 ayaz2810 wrote: When has a discussion about feminism on TL ever turned out to be a good thing? Answer: Never. Although I do really enjoy documentaries
I would say almost all threads about gender issues I've followed on TL have been fairly good.
Oh my this has been really enlightening, I've always suspected that all those "hordes" of female CEO's, Senators, Presidents and Governors were plotting the downfall of man. Good thing there ain't a bunch of guys acting like weirdo's that make the rest of us look bad in the media......."Rolls eyes"
I think some of these videos are fairly interesting. Acknowledging that there are gender specific issues and gender inequalities for men is quite important. But then other videos just seem to trivialize woman specific problems without much justification, like it is some sort of weird battle for which sex is best.
On November 15 2013 23:28 ayaz2810 wrote: When has a discussion about feminism on TL ever turned out to be a good thing? Answer: Never. Although I do really enjoy documentaries
I would say almost all threads about gender issues I've followed on TL have been fairly good.
You must have not ventured into the discussion about transgendered folks....
On November 15 2013 23:28 ayaz2810 wrote: When has a discussion about feminism on TL ever turned out to be a good thing? Answer: Never. Although I do really enjoy documentaries
I would say almost all threads about gender issues I've followed on TL have been fairly good.
You must have not ventured into the discussion about transgendered folks....
I did in several seperate threads. They were depressing at times, but also often quite interesting. And the existence of people with terrible opinions doesn't necessarily make a thread worse, can be quite fun too.
This video by the same guy reminds me exactly of the "racial realists" or "homo-realists" who claim to love gay/non-white people so much they have to be truthful with them by informing them of their sinful lives or inferiority. This video also uses a very similar formula to the "Cultural Marxist" conspiracy theorists.
This is the most hilariously shit video I've seen all week. I'll never hide the fact that I have a lot of issues with some contemporary feminists and I almost reject the entirety of our generation's "identity politic", but the irony of combating what one considers to be a "myth" with a mythology of one's own is beyond vulgarity. It's just sad.
On November 16 2013 07:52 koreasilver wrote: This is the most hilariously shit video I've seen all week. I'll never hide the fact that I have a lot of issues with some contemporary feminists and I almost reject the entirety of our generation's "identity politic", but the irony of combating what one considers to be a "myth" with a mythology of one's own is beyond vulgarity. It's just sad.
Having watched quite a few of his videos by now, I have to agree. All of the people he interviews have genuinely interesting points, are quite articulate, intelligent and seem to have quite balanced opinions. But he adds a narration of his own that is just very far removed from reality, placing alot of weight on single incidents, anecdotal evidence and some statistics I can't find anywhere else. I feel quite bad for the people in his videos really. The men's rights movements seem to be quite poisoned by this kind of shit, which is quite sad really.
Im a feminist :o. Allowing women to be CEO's is probably worse for women overall, and imo it is anti feminist. It's like allowing a black guy to be president. Did Barrack Obama help black people overall or did he harm them?
On November 16 2013 09:19 stroggozzz wrote: Im a feminist :o. Allowing women to be CEO's is probably worse for women overall, and imo it is anti feminist. It's like allowing a black guy to be president. Did Barrack Obama help black people overall or did he harm them?
I'm assuming this is a joke. But even so I have to ask, when was it ever about allowing women to be CEOs?
Conspiracy theories and arguments driven almost single-handedly by logical fallacies, this looks more like propaganda for gullible idiots than anything.
On November 16 2013 09:19 stroggozzz wrote: Im a feminist :o. Allowing women to be CEO's is probably worse for women overall, and imo it is anti feminist. It's like allowing a black guy to be president. Did Barrack Obama help black people overall or did he harm them?
I'm assuming this is a joke. But even so I have to ask, when was it ever about allowing women to be CEOs?
Always, unless you think anti-discrimination laws are not exactly the same thing.
On November 16 2013 09:19 stroggozzz wrote: Im a feminist :o. Allowing women to be CEO's is probably worse for women overall, and imo it is anti feminist. It's like allowing a black guy to be president. Did Barrack Obama help black people overall or did he harm them?
I'm assuming this is a joke. But even so I have to ask, when was it ever about allowing women to be CEOs?
well it's about women trying to win over their rights, 'allowing' was the wrong word. But there are certain rights they win over far more easily than other ones which are much better for women. Like raising children was pretty much a full time job for my mum but she never get paid for it. That is imo far better for women than winning over the right to become a CEO or attain a powerful position in the workplace. One of the major political parties in my own government pledges to make 50% of their party women, for example. But that's hardly going to change the life of the majority of women in the country imo. The same party still locks up huge amounts of moari in jail for cannibas posession, but they think having a huge amount of moari in their party is going to solve that problem when it doesn't.
Maybe im totally wrong here. I got a pretty superficial understanding of feminism tbh, most of my of what i think is just from talking to my mum lol.
I believe you can find a lot of crap ideas and opinions on both sides, but feminism is just pure poison at its core. It teaches us to put ppl into categories, and it makes the assumption that the categories should add up to the same, despite the fact that there might be complex explanations to why they don't. Feminism contradicts equality completely, because equality doesn't allow you to make any assumptions, as you only look at facts. Feminism sees you as part of a category, rather than an individual. To them "equality" is men vs women, rather than individual vs individual. To illustrate what I mean. Let's assume that a women doesn't get a certain job, because the employer is a sexist bastard, and a guy who was not as suitable for the job ended up getting it instead. According to feminists you fix this problem by forcing a company to hire a woman at the expense of a man. To them, you can make things right by screwing with someone from the other gender, and maintaining the balance between the genders. To them, 1-1 equals 0. But if you don't categorize, it would rather be 1+1 equals 2, where 1 woman was screwed over by a sexist employer, and 1 man was screwed over by a policy. Feminists doesn't care about specific injustices in the same category, or specific injustices between them. They just want each category to add up to the same. Well, most of them will say that they care about general injustices as well, but that goes against all logic as the core of feminism is about categorizing and evening out the categories, something you cannot do without screwing ppl over, by for instance disqualifying them from applying certain jobs, purely based on their gender.